How to drive on a DSG box more than a hundred thousand? Features of the operation of DSG

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Modern motor vehicles, in pursuit of comfort, convenience and safety of driving, are increasingly equipping the technique developed by complex systems and devices. No exception and transmission mechanisms. DSG gearbox is currently considered the most technological and advanced among the products of this kind.

The abbreviation itself is decrypted as "Direct-SHIFT Gearbox", literally "direct gearbox". The technology received an impetus in its development due to the Volkswagen concern, who released the six-speed DSG 6 gearbox model, and a little later upgraded seven stepped version of DSG 7. Both of these boxes have become a real breakthrough in the automotive industry, they sold more than a million pieces and demand does not fall. However, despite the technical and technological innovations, as well as any other mechanism, the automata have positive and negative sides.

Varieties of boxes

At the moment there are two main ones working on the DSG principle. Both options are widespread and used on motor vehicles manufactured by the Volkswagen Audi Group). This is a DSG 6 gearbox and its more modern version of DSG 7. Mechanisms are installed on well-known and popular cars: Volkswagen, Skoda, Audi, Seat.

Both gearboxes use the same principle, however, there are many differences in their designs. Thus, the main feature of the DSG 6 box, compared to DSG 7, can be considered the use of adhesion with the friction part placed in the oil bath, which allows to significantly increase the product resource. In such a bath, disk packets are lubricated and cooled, it has a favorable effect on the mechanism.

Due to its design and good cooling, DSG 6 provides a traction force up to 350 nm, which makes it an ideal candidate for installation on cars with powerful motors. The gearbox is installed on the engines with a volume of 1.4 to 3.2 liters.

The most famous models that use the DSG 6 version (DQ 250):

  • Volkswagen: Passat, Golf, Scirocco, Sharan;
  • Skoda: Octavia, Yeti, Superb;
  • Audi: A3 8V, TT, Q2, Q3;
  • Seat: Altea, Leon, Ateca.

Since not all car models need a powerful gearbox, such as DSG 6, the developers designed, an improved box with seven DSG steps 7. In addition to the number of steps, the distinctive feature of this DQ200 DQ200 box was the use of clutch with a dry friction part, the gearbox was designed Especially for power plants, with not exceeding a value of 250 nm.

By comparing the sixth model with the seventh, you can highlight the benefits of the latter:

  1. The box needs fewer lubrication (1.7 liters. Against 6.5 liters in the sixth);
  2. Little weight and dimensions of gearbox (70 kg. Against 93 kg. In DSG 6);
  3. High fuel savings, by eliminating losses on the pump drive for oil.

The characteristics of the robotic gearbox fell to the consumer, thanks to this, it was widely used on low-power units.

The DQ 200 robot is installed on such cars:

  • Audi: A1, A3, TT, Q2;
  • Volkswagen: Golf 6-7, Polo, Passat CC, Touran;
  • Skoda: Octavia A7, Rapid, Fabia, Karoq;
  • Seat: Altea, Leon.

Due to the fact that the friction part of the clutch in the DSG 7 gearbox was dry, its installation to more powerful power units has negatively affected the reliability of the mechanism. Late box designs received "wet" clutch and could be installed on powerful motors.

The most popular version of DSG7 0DL DQ500 was used in models:

  • Volkswagen: Passat B7, Tiguan, Arteon;
  • Skoda kodiaq.

There are still many modifications of DSG 7 boxes, in the design of which oil bath is used, most of them are intended for use on vehicles manufactured under the Audi brand.

DSG device and principle

From the point of view of the design, the robotic box automatic DSG 6 and DSG 7 is a mechanic, however, in contrast to it, there are no power losses when switching the speeds, and there is no break between the transmissions. Thanks to this decision, at the time of switching, the engine does not work in idle, which guarantees a car high dynamics during acceleration and substantial fuel savings.

Application in the design of two clutches is a factor that distinguishes the mechanism from any other box. The principle of clutch operation is based on the fact that switching gears in DSG 6 and DSG 7 occurs simultaneously with the turnsuit of the first clutch and the inclusion of the second. This contributes to a torque on the wheels of the car is uninterrupted.

Primary shafts, as well as clutches in the design, two are applied. Based on all above, it follows that DSG technology is nothing more than two mechanical boxes running synchronously. The first box serves even drives, the second box is responsible for odd switching.

Starting the movement, the first and second transmission are synchronously turned on, the adhesion on the second transmission remains in the open position. When you need to go to increased gear, the first clutch is simultaneously opened and the second is turned on to operation. This principle of operation DSG is applicable to all transmissions used in the box.

The operation of the device occurs automatically, but in contrast to the classic machine in it there is no. The name "Robotic Gearbox" was given to avoid confusion in the classification of mechanisms.

Robotic gearbox includes the following items:

  • Clutch coupling consisting of multiple disks;
  • Pulley (primary);
  • Pulley (secondary), 2 pieces;
  • Variable gearbox case;
  • Mechatronic, device control box.

MEChatronic block, this is a combination of various sensors and electronics. His task, track readings responsible for the frequency with which the shafts of the box at the inlet and outlet of it rotate. In addition, the block takes into account the temperature and pressure of the oil, the position of the scenes.

The block consists of:

  • Hall Sensor;
  • Electro-hydraulic control device;
  • Transmitting wires;
  • Devices executing user commands.

There are no special instructions for using DSG boxes. The transmission is automatic, the user intervention in its operation is minimized, so it is almost impossible to affect the resource of the gearbox in the direction of increasing or decreasing.

There are a number of rules, observing which you can renew the box work to its repair, even if indirectly.

  • Switching transfers, squeeze the brake must be stopped. Weak pressing does not allow you to completely open the disks and leads to their wear;
  • If the stop does not exceed one minute, you should not switch the scene into a neutral position, it is desirable to use the "S" mode in the plugs and move in rolling;
  • It is not recommended to trim from the place using slipping;
  • Handbrake must be installed without letting the foot brake pedal;
  • Modes need to be switched smoothly, with a small pause between switching;
  • For a DSG box 6, a timely replacement of oil plays a significant role, it is necessary to change it in a filter complex, every 60000 km;
  • If the machine is stuck or bonded in the mud, freeing it, the gear shifting is needed to neutral.

It may seem that the DSG box imposes many restrictions on the operation of the vehicle. Stopping your choice on it, the driver gets comfort and safety, and this is important.

Robotic gear shift boxes are becoming increasingly popular due to the rapid switching of speeds and efficiency. But many car enthusiasts with distrust relate to "robots", and there are quite a few negative reviews about this type of transmission. To date, the most common is the DSG PPC, which are installed on most Volkswagen cars, Skoda, Seat and others.

What caused a large number of breakdowns? The fact is that the robotic box is constructively different from the machine and the variator, respectively, has its own features of operation. We'll figure it out what you can not do with the DSG box and how to extend the service life of this unit.

Dry and wet clutch

Dry clutch boxes constructively resemble the usual mechanics. The clutch disc is directly closed with the flywheel. In the "wet" boxes circulate the coolant, which lowers the temperature of the parts at intensive operation.

"Dry" boxes are installed on cars that do not differ in high power. Such a transmission is designed for a torque of no more than 250 nm. Many car owners believe that this is not enough, so they make chip-tuning engine. As a result, the transmission quickly fails.

It should be remembered that dry clutch is not designed for an aggressive driving manner. They are equipped with economical urban cars, not sports cars. If for a long time sharply accelerate and try to squeeze out of the car to maximize its capabilities, the details of the clutch overheat and prematurely fail. After short episodes of abruptly pressing the accelerator pedal, you need to rebuild on a calm ride manner. It will give transmissions to cool.

Wet clutch does not suffer from overheating. The circulating fluid takes up excess heat and protects parts from damage. Owners of such a robotic checkpoint can afford to ride more aggressively.

How to move in urban traffic jams

Movement in dense city traffic does not affect the service life of the automatic transmission, but for the "robot" can be destructive if you do not comply with simple rules. The fact is that robotic boxes, unlike the machine, have a grip. With a constant movement in traffic, several meters it is prematurely wear out. This is due to its inevitable slip at the beginning of the movement. Each time, the release of the brake pedal and pull up a few centimeters closer to the standing car, the DSG owner approaches the visit to the car service.

Contrary to popular belief, when moving in traffic, you do not need to put the selector to the "N" position, it is enough to put the leg on the brake. In this case, the clutch disc and flywheel open automatically. But in order for the transmission to live for a long time, it is necessary to wait every time until the distance to the front car is at least a few meters.

Proper braking

A sharp pressure on the brake when driving riding either at the moment of braking the engine significantly reduces the life of the transmission. Of course, if necessary, emergency braking is hardly someone thinks about the resource of the box, but in everyday trips do not follow in this way. Braking should be smooth, only in this case the clutch disc and flywheel will fully open and will not be exposed to increased mechanical loads.

Quick start: to be or not to be?

Lovers of dynamic overclocking often start with space, while squeezing gas and brake. This is done in order to increase the engine speed, and then release the brake and swept as much as possible with ahead. This reception is not suitable for robotic boxes.

Modern "robots" are equipped with a protective mechanism. When you press the brake, the electronics prevents the closure of the clutch disk with the flywheel, so the engine turnover will not grow. The car in such a situation will not suffer, but there is no point in this manipulation.

Worse is the case on machines, where such protection is not provided. When you press the gas, the disks are closed, but the brake pedal does not give a car from the scene. As a result, there is a slip of the discs, the appearance of damage on them and the premature production of the resource of the mokhovik.

A sharp change of speed

The "robot" DSG with double clutch works as follows: one clutch is responsible for even programs, another for odd. Electronics adjusts to the driver's driving manner, it turns on the desired speed in advance, and then at the desired point in time simply turns on the clutch. Accordingly, if you click on the gas, the transmission is preparing to include increased transmission if the brambe is low. With aggressive driving with sharp braking after overclocking and on the contrary, the automation does not have time to choose the desired speed and switches the transfer in emergency mode. This leads to shocks on the clutch disk, the emergence of damage on it and a reduction in service life.

If you want to rush your nerves, choose manual gear shift mode. This will allow even with sharp change changes to choose the correct speed and not mislead the automation configured to a comfortable, predictable ride style.

Towing and slipping

DSG boxes are not designed for heavy loads. They are usually installed on cars, which, together with the driver and passengers weigh no more than two tons. If you want to touches another vehicle or a heavy trailer with your car, remember that the "robot" may not cope with such overloads. If you do not want to risk a transmission, give up this venture.

Car owners with robotic transmissia should know that this unit is afraid of slipping. Such a situation may occur when you try to go from space on a slippery surface, as well as with a sharp start in manual mode. Unfortunately, in our realities, it is not sometimes possible to avoid slipping, but still try. A car with a robotic checkpoint is not an SUV, so think before going to the dirt or on a slippery rut.

Proper switching modes and parking

DSG does not like sharp movements. That is why switching modes are needed smoothly. Automation is quickly rebuilt, but for this she needs some time. A second delay when changing the position of the selector will significantly extend the life of the transmission. Do not pull the handle of the checkp.

When parking a car is held in place using a blocking mechanism. But if you often put the car under the slope, it is recommended to use the parking brake. This removes the load from the limiter and extends its service life. But remember that in winter brake pads when using manual brakes can face.

Service

The manufacturer claims that the "robot" DSG does not need maintenance, and the oil-filled oil is calculated for the entire service life. But the experience of the masters speaks about the opposite. If you want the transmission to serve as long as possible, every 50-60 thousand runs must be replaced by a transmission fluid.

Before getting behind the wheel of your new car, be sure to read the recommendations on the use of a robotic DSG box. Its operation is similar to the classic machine, but some nuances still have. If they take them into account, the transmission will regularly serve for a long time and delight the smoothness and speed of switching gear.

The first cars with DSG robots appeared in Russia in the early 2000s. During this period, the aggregates suffered a variety of conversion operations. Let us consider in more detail how the latest modifications of the two main representatives of the DSG family have been shown, which are not considered the most reliable.

No alcohol law

Most of all called the seven-step robot-robot DSG (DQ200) with double dry clutch. The reason for complaints lies in the design features of such robots. This is a simplified and reduced version of the "wet" type boxes - designed for a significantly smaller torque. From here and typical disadvantages: smaller, uncomfortable switching and fast wear of clutch disks.

The seven-step robot DSG has two principal modifications. The early received the 0am index, and later and to this day wears the designation of 0CV, despite numerous subsequent innovations. The large-scale modernization of 2011 touched on all components of the robot: adhesion, mechatronics (control unit) and the mechanical part (elements of the classical manual box). Life has shown that all updates went good. DQ200 has become more reliable, but the motorists still looked at it with fear - the number of breakdowns was very significant.

The second serious modernization of DSG7 formally passed in early 2014, although the updated unit appeared back in 2013, for example, on. The manufacturer was so confident in the success of upgrading, which again changed the box. In 2012, due to the mass complaints of the owners, it was extended up to five years or 150,000 km of run. And for cars released after January 1, 2014, it was again reduced by equating the deadlines to the general warranty on the concern cars.

According to representatives of the Volkswagen group, after updating the box, the number of complaints due to its failures decreased several times. This is confirmed by the employees of the dealership service station. Less rainbow, but still very positive, is the statistics of informal service centers. The reliability of DSG7 as a whole and the quality of its work has increased significantly. However, some repair operations are still demanding.

The resource of the wet clutch of the robot DSG6 is completely dependent on the mode of operation and intervention in the engine software. Typically, the clutch change only after 100,000 km. Fans of chip tuning and aggressive ride this mileage is reduced to 30,000-40,000 km. Replacing the clutch outside the dealer network is an average of 55,000 rubles. The officials are significantly more expensive.

The resource of the wet clutch of the robot DSG6 is completely dependent on the mode of operation and intervention in the engine software. Typically, the clutch change only after 100,000 km. Fans of chip tuning and aggressive ride this mileage is reduced to 30,000-40,000 km. Replacing the clutch outside the dealer network is an average of 55,000 rubles. The officials are significantly more expensive.


The average clutch resource of the robot DSG7 last modification is 70,000-90,000 km. It is noticeably higher than the predecessors. At the same time, the transitions for the psychological bar "100,000 km" are increasingly. On the chipped motor, the average clutch resource falls twice. The replacement of the node for non-states costs approximately 55,000 rubles.

The average clutch resource of the robot DSG7 last modification is 70,000-90,000 km. It is noticeably higher than the predecessors. At the same time, the transitions for the psychological bar "100,000 km" are increasingly. On the chipped motor, the average clutch resource falls twice. The replacement of the node for non-states costs approximately 55,000 rubles.


Major malfunctions DQ200: clutch wear, gear shift bearings and mechatronics death. The clutch node is already upgraded in the sixth or seventh time, and it brings fruits: its average resource is selected to 100,000 km. And Mechatronics still behaves unpredictable: may die at any time. Dealers are obliged to change it assembly on a new one (this is the so-called aggregate repair), but the advanced non-fakes have long been repaired and successfully repair the node. Moreover, according to them, as a rule, the reason for breakdowns is a factory marriage. This explains the fact that they usually refuse mechatronics from certain parties. The nodes suffer both the hydraulic part and electronic. The faulty fees are perepaled, and in the hydraulic part they change the dead valves and, if possible, restore their block. There is a complete set of necessary spare parts on the market.

DSG7 most often wear the bearings of the forks of the sixth and rear gear. The manufacturer has released even their repair kit. Profile unofficial hundreds are taken for such work, but dealers for malfunctions of the mechanical part prefer to change the box assembly. It is connected with both the manufacturer's policy, according to which the repair implies the full discerning of the robot, often recognize in economically inappropriate, and with the periodic absence of specific parts for ordering through the dealer network. And competent non-states always have access to spare parts, the necessary equipment and special tools.



The manufacturer does not regulate in the mechanical part of the DQ200, it is designed for the entire service life of the box. However, it is desirable to replace the oil about 50,000 km of run - it will extend the bearing resource on the gear shift forks.

Reliability of DSG7 also increased new software versions. Fresh firmware has a different gear and clutch control algorithm. In particular, the new program will not give dramatically from the traffic light. No matter how much the driver nor the gas pedal when starting from the place, the car will fly only after a complete closure of the clutch, which is shown smoothly and with a certain delay.

And further. The DQ200 box is calculated for the maximum torque of 250 N · m. Any attempts to make a motor chip tuning will lead to a significant reduction in the robot resource. You will have to change the clutch times in two more often, or even to fork out for the full repair of the aggregate. Nevochalov, it is estimated at about 100,000 rubles.

Follow the system

Many motorists still believe that when waiting for a traffic light, the DSG resource is prolonged on the traffic light or taking in traffic. In fact, such actions apply more harm.

When the machine is on the "Drive", the clutch discs completely open - and it does not sink in any way. And the translation of the selector to the "neutral" and then again in the "Drive" speeds up the wear of some elements. The explanation of this lies in the DSG box work algorithm.

For ease of understanding, we lower the moment of the clutch. On the "neutral" the robot includes two programs: the first and reverse. During the translation of the selector to the "Drive" position and at the beginning of the movement, the rear step is inferior to the second gear. When you stop the machine, such an alignment is preserved if you do not make extra televitations. If you translate the selector to the "neutral", then the second gear is turned off and the rear rear is joined instead. This process speeds up the wear of synchronizers and bearings of the shifting.

It makes it possible that it is possible to level the tight in traffic jams by fixing the transmission in manual or sports mode so that the robot does not switch to the step above and back. Allegedly this move can reduce and wear the elements of the unit. According to Volkswagen technical specialists, it has a certain meaning for DSG7 old modifications (until 2014). Later, a new software has come with an improved gear and clutch control algorithm that has significantly increased comfort when driving. The position of non-fakes: similar manipulations practically do not affect the wear of the box, and riding at a fixed first stage only adds dertecable, since all DSG robots it is very short.

But accented, confidently pressing the brake pedal and its retention can be safely recommended to those who want to stop in traffic. Completely due to the weak effort on the pedal the box is confused in the situation: it does not completely open the clutch and selects not the transmission, in the end - jerks and twitching. And it is stronger than this manifests itself on cars with DSG7.

Wet

The six-speed DSG with wet clutches (DQ250) has appeared much earlier than the "dry" box. The main modernization of DQ250 was held in 2009, and after that it delivers - it is considered to be in dealer centers and the Moscow representative office of the Volkswagen concern. Neo fakes do not agree with this and assure that in the early years after modernization, the problems with mechatronics were - similar to the fact that the DSG7 appeared, but later the situation was recovered.

In 2013, the manufacturer partially changed the box of the box so that it would not interfere with the anticipation of the suspension lever bolt, and also updated the internal and external filters. In addition, the new software versions and modification of the wet clutch are periodically published - the node is upgraded for the fourth time.




Robots with wet clutch have many advantages compared to "dry" boxes. However, DSG6 has serious shortcomings. For example, the oil circuit combines the clutch, the mechatronics and the mechanical part of the box - and often the repair DQ250 implies the replacement of a heap of elements. It happens, the clutch wear products fall into the mechatronics and it begins to fool, quickly admiring the clutch and elements of the mechanical part of the box. Sometimes conspiracy participants change in places in any order. Hence the requirement of the plant to change the oil in the box every 60,000 km. But it is better to be reinforced and reduce this interval to 40,000 km.

The second drawback of DQ250 is known for classic machine guns. Cars with DSG6 are contraindicated long-term slip of the wheels - overheating oil leads to deposits.


Replacing the bearing of the forks of the sixth and rear gear in the DSG7 is a fairly common procedure. No wonder the manufacturer releases the corresponding Repair Kit. Replacing bearings in informal service will cost 40,000-45,000 rubles - provided that the remaining "consumables" boxes will not require updates.

Replacing the bearing of the forks of the sixth and rear gear in the DSG7 is a fairly common procedure. No wonder the manufacturer releases the corresponding Repair Kit. Replacing bearings in informal service will cost 40,000-45,000 rubles - provided that the remaining "consumables" boxes will not require updates.


Most often, the problems with DSG6 are caused by inadequate operation - engine chip-tuning and aggressive ride. As a result, the clutch resource is reduced several times. But much more terrible that in such conditions the box strongly suffers from the mechanical part. For example, gear gear and main pair are stepping up - and wear products quickly kill the unit.

In this case, DQ250 without interference with the software perfectly feels in ring races. It is only necessary to change the oil in the middle of the season. But the passion for "flights" in the city with a ripped ride mode often turns into serious costs: Full repair of DSG6 in non-states costs about 120,000 rubles.

With a reserve

Already long ago, specialists of informal STRs noticed that the factory volume (1.7 liters) of transmission oil in the mechanical part of the DSG7 is not enough for a full lubricant of some nodes. From the oil starvation suffer from the gears of higher gears, the bearings of the upper shaft and the reversing plug, which is clearly visible when the tired robot is defecting.

When repairing the boxes and replacing the mentioned elements of the servicemen, approximately 2.1 liters of oil are poured. Practice has shown that these parts go much longer with such a fluid. Moreover, the elevated level of oil does not give side effects and does not cause leaks.

With the last update of DSG7 in 2014, the manufacturer brought the ventilation of the crankcase box on the top of the case - there appeared Sapun. In addition, the nonoffers noticed that the factory oil level became higher, and its volume is approximately 2.0 liters. Q.E.D.

Head on shoulders

In recent years, the manufacturer has significantly improved the design of DSG robots with two clutches. From the status of unreliable thin, the DQ250 box was separated, and DQ200 is pulled up to it. The VW concern conducts comprehensive work on errors, constantly analyzing the statistics of the operation of the machines in the Russian conditions. Confirmation of this is excellent indicators of the reliability of seven-step DSG with wet clutches (DQ500 index), which from 2014 is installed on some concern machines intended for our market.

Output? Candid problems with German robots are due mainly inadequate operation. Servicemen of all stripes advise to think their heads, do not get involved in aggressive ride and do not interfere with DSG boxes. So it is so, but the Germans conducted work on mistakes at the expense of buyers of their cars.

Military reports

The manufacturer often releases the latest software version for DSG robots. Volkswagen and Skoda for flashing models with a seven-step DSG box arrange even. The possible incorrect operation of the control electronics could lead to an excessive increase in the oil pressure in the hydraulic system, and therefore, damage to the pressure accumulator built into the mechatronics and leakage of the fluid.

Campaign for free software updates for Volkswagen Caddy, Golf and Jetta started at the end of 2016 and touched on 4500 cars issued in the period from 2013 to 2016. Czechs started a more large-scale audit: began in March 2017 and touched 45,000 Skoda Octavia, Superb, Fabia, Yeti and Rapid 2012-2016 cars.

It is noteworthy that under the feedback fell part of cars with boxes of the last major modernization of 2014. According to representatives of the Volkswagen concern, the firmware has already been updated on the overwhelming majority of cars and they are unknown on cases of destruction of mechatronics. Other additions are made to the new software, designed to improve the work of DSG7.

But the unofficial hundred saw the destroyed mechatronics. Most distinguished cars issued in 2012. And before that, such cases were extremely rare - as after the update of the DSG7 2014. According to the servicemen engaged in the repair of mechatronics, the reason is not in an elevated pressure of the oil in the hydraulic system, but in the unstable quality of the metal, from which it is made. There were already three different executions at their memory, and they are known examples when the destruction occurred on the boxes with new firmware.

With "Mechanics" everything is quite simple - this is the cheapest and quite reliable transmission option. Yes, during operation, it requires a regular inspection and replacement of consumables (disk, basket, refusal), and in particularly launched cases of still repair. However, with due treatment, it runs to half a million kilometers without any problems. Similar to the vitality for "alternative" KP is practically unavailable, nevertheless, the correct operation and in these cases allows you to achieve quite comparable indicators.

Rules here are simple. Standing at the traffic light in anticipation of the resolution with the transmission enabled and the clutch (squeezed pedal) is not worthwhile - premature extension of the release bearing is guaranteed. Long-term slip and shock loads (when the driver throws the clutch pedal) quickly wear the disk. Incomplete clutch shutdown (switching on the transmission "with a crunch") - gears. However, with the exception of the latter, we are talking about consumables. Moreover, the second set of their set, as a rule, is twice as much more. The experience and desire for comfort affects. Otherwise, repeat, "mechanics" is the cheapest, unpretentious and reliable type of transmission.

One-piece robotic KP

Such KPs in the mass segment were practically illustrated. In fact, such a type of boxes on its models persistently continues to put only PSA, the rest, for the most part, or returned to classic "automaton", or preferred variastors, or developed two-disc units. The reason is simple - the transmission, conceived, as a budget alternative to the "Automatic", turned out to be quite economical, but not too comfortable because it is necessary to ride it just like on ordinary "mechanics".

The fact is that a technically robotic box is a MCP, in the design of which includes servo or hydraulic drivers of clutch operation and transmission switching. The main advantage of such transmissions in front of classic "handles" is a high efficiency that is achieved due to faster switching, however, even acceleration in this case can be achieved only in one way - to switch manually to the gas discharge. For in automatic mode, it is often mistaken with the choice of transmission, very long "thinks" when switching to low and switches with tangible jerks.

As for the rules of use, they, as in the first case, are elementary. Regularly check the box on "snapness". Do not forget to put the car on the handbrake in the parking lot. And before towing - carefully examine the corresponding section of the instruction manual. Everything else will make the built-in "fool protection".

Yes, by the way, repair and maintenance of a one-piece "robot" cost in amounts comparable to the repair and maintenance of the MCP, on the basis of which it is made. And with proper appeal, the resource of the box is almost no donor resource.

Two-disc robotic KP


Alas, but not all "robots" are equally good. Two-disc box are usually in operation less reliable than one-piece, even despite the fact that they are more technological and comfortable. By the way, it is the last circumstance is the main problem. VW, the first to decide on the large-scale introduction of his DSG, initially called the "Robotic ACP" box, granting that the rules and features of its operation are no different from the operation of the classic "automaton".

In the same way, Ford did both when the PowerShift transmissia released. Now manufacturers try to blame in all insufficiently experienced vendors, however, the same Americans when their clients appealed to the company asking us to explain how, actually, to properly exploit the two-way box, they answered simply: as a regular automatic CP. It is noteworthy that in the instruction manual for Volkswagenovsky, the trucks are written: DSG is a robotic KP.

In general, and DSG, and PowerShift to "Automatam" have no relationship. These are the same mechanical (or, if you like one-piece "robots") of the CP, but with a large number of gears, two disks and a more complex executive unit. In addition, they are based on a ready-made "handle" - all modern boxes of this type are developed from scratch.

So what you need to know and remember in this case?

First. Regardless of whether the "dry" KP is on the car or "wet" (DSG-7, for example, refers to the first, DSG-6 and 7-speed S Tronic on the Audi - to the second), both have clutch discs and it - consumable material. Whatever the manufacturer claims, any constantly rubbing items wear out, while the speed of the process depends on the mass of factors, including the style of driving the owner. Ripped ride and traffic lights. The service life of its service is naturally not extended.

Second.The mechatronic module, controlling the box - the node is quite gentle, requiring a regular inspection and afraid of overheating. By the way, it's not so difficult to bring to the latter. The sick place of some DSG, in particular, are plastic tubes, supplying a cooling fluid to the heat exchanger. They crack and rolled from vibration. But even if in the technical plan, the box is fully properly in order to overlay the module is enough to stand in a traffic jam or on a "long" traffic light, holding the car brake. With the "machine" or CVT, in this case, nothing will happen, but the same VAG in the instructions for its cars writes that if the car stands longer than a minute, the selector must be switched to the "neutral" to avoid the overheating of the mechatronics. In particular, the "dry" DSG regularly "fly out" just for this reason.

The problem is that these CPs are officially considered maintenance-free and unrefore-seemed. The grip and the mechatronic module change under warranty, everything else is entirely. So far, but it is worth it to end, all the burden will fall on the shoulders of the owner. Whereas the amounts here are comparable to the price tags for the purchase of a completely new modern "automaton", although service risks and resources will remain the same. It is for this reason that the liquidity of cars with two-disc "robots" in the secondary market is extremely low.

Variable speed drive


CVT or variator - the youngest box. And if the principles of the work of the MKP, Robots and A "automata" have long been adjusted to perfection, in this case there is still something to work on. However, this is the simplest transmission type of its device, characterized with high efficiency. In essence, CVT is a more progressive version of the belt transmission, invented by Leonardo da Vinci. Simply in this case, the torque is translated from the engine to the wheel drives using a different diameter pulley system. The easiest visual example is a mining or racing bike transmission device.

In fact, the most important point relating to the operation of the variator is pre-heating. In addition, the owner is better to forget about racing, since this type of transmission is not intended in principle for this. The fact is that the weakest place is CVT - the belt. Today, many manufacturers began to use a chain, but in any case, it cannot be eternal, especially since the drive across a sharp starter across new boxes.

Automatic KP


In fact, the "automatic" is the most reliable "two-week" box, the reputation of which at one time seriously spoiled the low-skilled garage craftsmen, "signed" a node when there was no need, and "riders", which did not suit the "dynamics and speed" Switches. "

It must be said that the old 4-speed boxes are really "stupid", so when the speaker is put on the conversion, and the four-cylinder atmospheric motor with a small working volume is installed under the hood, such a CP is not the best choice. But you should not forget that initially this type of transmission was developed as a comfortable alternative to the "handle", which later evolved to the current state. In addition, truly modern ACPs are not inferior to other boxes in no switching speed or in economy.

The relative reliability of the "automat" is primarily due to the absence of a rigid mechanical connection between the engine and drive drives. Of course, this does not mean that such a KP has no rubbing details at all, but the main role is played here, the working fluid is played, better known as ATF, providing and lubricating parts and nodes, and their cooling, and switching, and communications. So, if you have nothing to do anything and you try to stick to several non-hard, in general, the rules for proper operation, the service life of the "automat" can be stretched to 350-400 thousand kilometers.

The rule is first. All switching levers between the main modes ("Parking", "Neutral", "Drive") must occur on the car with a completely squeezed brake pedal.

Rule second.When switching to "Drive" or "Reverse", the movement should be started after the transmission is complete. For this box requires 1-2 seconds. The inclusion will be accompanied by a characteristic impetus.

Rule third. "Neutral" - mode intended only for towing. Switching into it, for example, on the traffic light, is useless and even harmful, because in the "neutral" the box is once again reset, so when you go to the "Drive" you need the same 1-2 seconds on the inclusion. The same applies to the rank. In this way, the fuel will not automatically work out, and the "automatic" is extended faster.

Rule fourth. The machine with the ACP cannot be towed. If it does not do without it, the process should occur at extremely small speeds and must under the engine running, for without it, the oil pump does not work. The main thing to adhere to the "50/50" principle is not faster than 50 km / h and no more than 50 kilometers. The perfect option is to evacuate with full loading.

Rule fifth. Do not bounce! If it happened, you can even dig a car, but for this in the "upper dead point" it is necessary to use the brake, completely blocking the wheels. Otherwise, there is a high risk to bury the "automatic".

Sixth rule. Use the handbrake. Parking machine, before letting the brake pedal, tighten the handbrake. There will be no superfluous. On parking the output shaft of the box is mechanically blocked by a parking tooth - a pre-tightened handler avoids its breakdown.

Here, in fact, all. The rest - subtleties, comprehend which is easier to experiment. To break anything, for example, switching transmissions manually or often using sport-mode, is quite difficult - in modern ACPs, as a rule, there is "protection against fool". Here, the regular inspection does not hurt - the leaking gland is a kopeck, in general, the part, kills the "automatic" much faster than the absence of experience.

Direct Shift Gear Box (Direct Switching Box) or DSG - a robotic gearbox, in which there are two clips at once, developed by the Volkswagen concern.

Constructively, such a box is a manual manual transmission, but gear shift and clutch operation is carried out using mechanisms running a computer.

Of course, this box has its advantages. Due to the double clutch, switching gear is faster and easier, better speaker, less consumption. One clutch is responsible for the inclusion of even gear, another clutch - odd. Due to this, the main problem of robots was solved, in sharp gear shifts at high speeds. At this pluses, however, end. Cons of this box are very low reliability and high repairs cost. They make the used machines with the DSG real nightmare for the second and third owners who bought a car that had a guarantee.

The main problems and disadvantages of this box are in a very fast wear of dry clutch, as a result of not entirely correct operation of the mechatronics and its control unit.
There are, of course, there are other disadvantages in the design of the box - contamination of the sensors, throwing the contacts of solenoids, wear of other mechanisms (plug of clutch, sleeves, and so on.) Repair of the gearbox can be so expensive that if the warranty came out, it is easier to change the box. on a new one. There are often problems with spare parts from suppliers, the details are rare on sale and they will have to wait for several weeks.

Despite the fact that the manufacturer performs all its obligations and the guarantee for the node is quite impressive, this gearbox in Russia has created serious passions.

Deputies of United Russia and representatives of the social movement "Automotive Russia" even wanted to ban the import of DSG-7 boxes into our country. This behavior is not at all the next unhealthy initiative of the authorities for strange problems. Many meetings with journalists and experts of Volkswagen are subject to natural issues: when engineers will make the box reliable and typical of its problems and cons will be solved. The answers are always the same type, they say, everything is fine with the box, follow the instruction manual, if something is wrong - there is a guarantee, the car with our gearbox is going fast and economically. True, as noted by drivers, not long.


From Volkswagen followed a statement, the essence of which came down to the fact that the company will fulfill all obligations to customers who collided with poor-quality products, but only if a warranty is valid. At the moment, the official representation of Volkswagen in Russia gives warranty on this node if the car is new, up to 5 years old, or the obligation is operating at 150,000 mileage, depending on what the first has come. At the occurrence of the warranty case, representatives of the company will replace the failed parts and mechanisms or the box itself, if necessary and completely free.

Operating Rules

In order for the box to live for a long time, you should familiarize yourself with the rules of its operation, read the instructions and understand how it works. Here are some tips:

  1. To properly use the transmission before the start of movement;
  2. It is important to prevent any slip and aggressive ride;
  3. Overcome dense congestion in position s, without switching to neutral;
  4. It should be replaced by oil every 50000;
  5. For the "dry" clutch, it will be better switching to neutral at long stops.


If you ignore the careful attitude to this mechanism, then there will be a problem with it and it will take expensive repairs.

Change of oil

Volkswagen writes that oil change on these gearbox is necessary only during repair - oil is flooded for the entire service life, while the car is being operated to change it is not recommended. If the PPC was repaired, then the oil change is necessary every 60,000 kilometers. Specialists a hundred already faced with the repair These gearbox claim that in any case the oil change is necessary every 50,000 kilometers, no one gives a guarantee that the box will last long.

In DSG 0B5, two lubrication systems (CPP and mechatronics housing). In the Mechatronics block, another oil designed specifically for 0B5. Such an oil from mechatronics cannot be merged in no case. The 0B5 modification was installed on the Audi A4 car, from which it moved on the model A and Q.

If the oil replacement is done with their own hands, then the car enthusiast expects another nuance. There is no bay hole, the suitable hole can be found only under the battery. All problems are solved, if you know what to do.


Replacement oil is suitable G52512A2, it is necessary to pour 1.7 liters (5.5 for a complete replacement). Oil replacement can be cheaper if you use the analog SWAG 10 92 1829.

In general, the replacement of oil is no different from the similar procedure for the automatic box.

Is it possible to tow a car with a robot box?

Towing a car with a DSG box is not recommended. The box may fail against the procedure of transportation and the warranty will not be distributed in this case. In the official hundred may refuse to repair due to violation of operating conditions. It is advisable to call the tow truck. If this is not possible and towing the car is still necessary to do the following.

  1. Turn on the ignition;
  2. Switch the box to the neutral position (towing at speed is not recommended and can output the CPP in order).

Towing is allowed to a distance of no more than 50 kilometers at no more than 50 km / h.

The inverse situation, when another car needs to be towed a car with a robot box is also not safe. In the extreme, it is necessary to translate the box to manual mode and move only on the first gear and it is better not to exceed the speed of 30 km / h.


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Adaptation DSG.

Adaptation is the procedure for setting up the operation of the PPC and the mechanical block, necessary after the repair and in some cases when the box works incorrectly. The procedure is simple and can be performed with your own hands. Usually adaptation is carried out via VAG COM. VAG COM is a diagnostic program that will allow you to "make friends" with a computer, to diagnose and configure some systems. The program has a simple and understandable interface, it takes a few space on the disk and it has its advantages, compared with analogues. To adapt to be done correctly, follow such an algorithm:

- box in position P and frequent up to 30-100 degrees C;

- the engine is headed;

- The brake pedal is pressed at the time of the procedure.

If all the conditions are completed, you must connect VAG COM. Adaptation is made as follows:


  1. In the program interface, we find the Basic Settings of the ACP.
  2. Select the gear shift setting item, click "Go!". The box will start to make sounds, and the numbers in the program will change. You must wait until it stops.
  3. Select the gear point point, press GO. Similar to clause 2 waiting.
  4. We choose the item adaptation of the clutch, the actions are similar to clause 2. Next, everything is done similarly to clause 2.
  5. Point basic installations.
  6. Point pressure adaptation.
  7. Clause with installed gear shift petals.
  8. ESP point and cruise.
  9. Click Done.
  10. Turn off the ignition.
  11. We are waiting for a few seconds.
  12. Turn on the ignition.
  13. We look at the presence of errors if you need to delete.
  14. We leave from the controller.
  15. Without using cruise control, perform a test drive.
  16. Exit them VAG COM. Adaptation is completed.

Replacing the Mechatronics block will require a new firmware. Fortunately, make it easy. DSG 6 Mechatronics Control Blocks and DSG 7 Mechatronics are easily overwheed using this program.

Repair DSG.

If jerks and kicks appeared when the box is running, outsiders, it's time to go to the diagnosis. DSG repair is quite complicated.


Double grip on robotic gear shift boxes, despite all its advantages, this is the consumable material. It does not matter "wet" type of clutch or "dry". With aggressive operation, dual clutches with difficulty wait to 40,000, it is better to change it assembly at the first symptoms.

The mechatronics unit is very gentle, requiring gentle conversion, warming up and not losing overheating. One of the weak places is the cooling system tubes made of plastic. From temperature drops and vibration, they can burst or crack, which will lead to refrigeration leaks and overheating box. Moreover, the PPC can overheat from long standing on the traffic light at speed.

The heat exchanger unit can generally be unloaded and staring oils with antifreeze.

Roller bearings of secondary shafts can pass less than 50,000 if they are exposed to heavy loads. When the gear broom, the gear will appear a characteristic knock, which is also not uncommon. Also, extraneous noises in the box may indicate the wear of the primary shaft bearing, other mechanical bearings, the box differential. With increasing engine speed, stops, noise turns are usually amplified.


The control unit of the control unit will slide the machine. If some electrical chain in it zakislah, this behavior can be periodic. A defective control unit may periodically move the box to the emergency mode.

The wear of solenoids can lead to stalks when switching transmissions, the self-diagnosis system will not see the problems. If you do not pay attention to such signs, then, most likely, the box will soon "rise." Its repair is not cheap and in Russia is still not very good. It may even be difficult to find a suitable service with specialists who will take such work. Before buying a car with a robot, consider whether all its advantages have such problems with repair.

DSG box, like all such boxes, is quite early developing and they are just beginning to modernize and work out. Manufacturer's warranty while covers all possible troubles. Before the moment the eternal-robots appear, as American and Japanese-millinized ACPs once appeared, for a long time, maybe another 2-3 generations of these gearbox.

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