Big test drive Lada West Sv Cross. Test Drive Lada Vesta Cross: Secrets of Wagon Employment Prefix With Meaning

Sport Wagon with the CROSS prefix went to the Winter Test Drive Lada Club. To verify its viability in Russia, the editors arranged a Lada universal sprint on off-road and shake citizens in the stone jungle.

Access to "body" Crossa

We have already spent a short summer test drive of this version of Lada Vesta. But at that time, due to a high request for this car, the editorial office failed to get acquainted in detail with all nuances of the novelties. The second chance was provided to us after the new year, when a lot of snow fell and the car changed the tires to the winter option. Unlike the test versions of the Lada Xray tested by us, the new Vesta Cross was a shovel of studded rubber. This was especially true, since it was in this version that Russian consumers often exploit cars in most of Russia.

We received Sport Wagon in high passage on a two-week test drive and decided to arrange a serious check. The test was divided into two stages: check in urban panels and off-road test. In the feasibility of holding the first block of questions did not arise. What can not be said about the second part, considering that for an ordinary front-wheel drive car, it does not have a logical meaning. However, we had to personally feel all the absurdity of the situation on our experience. No, but what are we worse than homegrown bloggers going after the SUVs and screaming, that the car does not go, as it should be laid by the all-wheel drive "tank".

Stiffness - Sign Success?

When you manage to visit the wheel of both Vesta SW and SW CROSS cars, then the first thing that your fifth point will feel - more "collected" suspension. Supported "Highworth" version of the wagon is always always in tension. Its behavior can be perfectly compared with the moment when the predator from the Feline family strained muscles and after a moment make a jerk to his victim. The constant "combat" readiness of the car inspires the team - you must be the first! Vesta Cross is ready to storm the lying police, too sharply rebuilding in the "rings" and jump from the strip with high accuracy. Commands from the steering wheel are ideally transmitted to the wheels of the car and, while on the site of the pilot, you can plan in detail any trajectory of movement.

On the one hand it is good, but on the other bad. Such a setting of the most sensational wagon provokes to arrange a "race" in the city. In a compartment with a more powerful 1.8 liter engine (122 hp), this sprint is obtained very efficiently even on a non-rolled unit. In terms of comfort, Cross-suspension does not most best affect the comfortable transfer in the city. The first who will indicate you on it will be your passengers.

If the locals around the crew on the usual Lada Vesta SW will seem a cute ferry walk, the same route on Cross is perceived as an extreme race on a high-speed boat. To fall into extremes and argue that it is bad or well we consider absurd. Each driver chooses a car under its style. We should also be glad that AvtoVAZ gives consumers a choice that he can do without resorting to the help of tuning atelier and independent interference in the car's design.

Prefix with meaning

Surprisingly the entire team of Lada Club, New Vesta perfectly showed himself on a light off-road. Now we may officially declare that the Cross prefix fully justifies himself. At the crossed area, all the advantages of a more wound version of the station wagon are revealed. Increased to 203 mm clearance allows not to think that high obstacles can meet on the car. Stone cobblestones and ice boulders car easily skips between their wheels. Plastic body kit in a circle perfectly protects the body from chips and scratches taking all the blows on itself. And the suspension in this mode is generally no equal. Gradually, gaining speed, think, and when the car starts to scour on the road and breaks the connection between the driver and the road. But the red predator refuses to relax and again and again clings to the ice and snow even in steep turns. And although we are not fans of low-profile rubber in Russian realities, but in this embodiment such execution is quite justified.

We passed the protracted areas passing out of snow into the ground and not once did not worry that on the border of the road cover the wheels are unfolded. The only thing we regards is 60 km / h limiter for the disabled ESP (Electronic Stability Program) system (Electronic Stability Program). It was possible to deceive the system only on the second transmission, when the engine is maxim as possible, it was possible to recruit 80 km / h. In contrast to the general opinion that the car is seriously spinning the wheels with the size R17, we believe that the power deficit was not observed. On a snowy coverage, sometimes a small oversupplication of horsepower under the hood was even felt.

When once again, one of the wheels broke into the BUX, an electronic assistant TCS (Traction Control System) came to the rescue. His work caused our exceptionally positive emotions. Even at high speeds, it distributes the load with one wheel to another on time.

What is better for Russian realities Lada Vesta SW or SW CROSS? Here will be able to choose only the future driver. The wagon in the plastic body kit looks more effectively and has high clearance. But his suspension is not suitable for every consumer.

The usual is more comfortable in more comfortable characteristics, but loses in a clearance and aggressive style. In any case, before buying a car, we recommend to ride on both versions and make your choice.

At some point I even climbed, and inside everything sank to colic. Not from fear to fall into the abyss, but from the confidence that on this deep asphalt promine rapid mountain turn, we not only finishing the front wheels, but also leave both front suspension racks. And there - yes, through the stone chipper and the cubem down. Fall there is where.

Practically choosing compression, at the output of the CROSS pit jumps up.

And once again - vain! This is already after a sharp compression left the rear wheels in a slightly tack. The turning radius slightly "blossomed" - and the car went sewn, outwardly vijas ...

With updated

There is nothing worse than wearing other people's secrets. On this pre-selection universal Lada Vesta SW Cross, I traveled back in the first half of summer, and you can only share your impressions now. While you keep the tongue behind your teeth, the nuances are forgotten, the exciting feeling of the "first night right" will disappear, emotions are hooked. However, the pros in this is also there: the main thing is cemented in memory, and I will tell about it the main thing.

With a pre-production cross, I had a chance to get acquainted in the vicinity of Sochi, where Vazov testers live for months, replacing each other and rolling thousands of kilometers along the roads of different types, including mountain serpentines (they use only for certification tests). Machines - in camouflage, because before selling sales for almost half a year. Interior Non-relocated places: Some panels are made of smooth model plastic. But - and this is the main thing! - Almost complete "driving" freedom. Want - Putar on the smooth Olympic roads. But no - screw over mountain serpents.

White Cross, from which I took the keys - the dream of many. Because roomy, with impressive clearance (203 mm!), With a motor 1.8 (122 hp) and a five-speed manual transmission. Over time, they will acquire such a power unit, but so far the combination of the "older" motor and mechanics is in the wonder. And then such a cross 1.8 is the disk rear brakes. Drums are not so effective? Less reliable? I did not hear about such problems. But what disc brakes are more expensive in service, is a fact. But if the consumer wants - Voila. Marketing stroke: Now like "Koreans"!

On Cross put only 17-inch wheels with tires dimension 205/50 R17. The usual universal laid the wheels are smaller - a diameter of 15 or 16 inches, as on the sedan.

Walking around the car, noticed a lot of changes - we are already on some of them (SM, No. 7, 2017). Vesta is gradually upgraded (for example, several calibrations of power units were carried out); Some innovations will be implemented first on the universal, and then then move to the sedan.

It is clear that XV is from another price league, but from a technical point of view, this is a direct competitor: the same size, similar to the power of the motor (speech about 1.6). Is there no full drive in Vesta. But on asphalt he is not needed.

All the way I could not recover from this "Subarovsky" sensation. The cruel strength also is that it is perfectly managed - better sedan. The complete feeling that even ESP works later than on the sedan, allowing you to go a little more active and longer slide without an electronic guard intervention. Special Calibration for Cross?

Not. Setting up universal for sedans and universal, including Cross, - There are only different presets depending on the power unit (motor and type of box) and the type of rear brakes (disc or drum). And the effect of the shift threshold creates tires. They are low-profile, with a more rigid sidewall, so in turning the steering wheel deflect on smaller angles - the car is more willingly changes the course and is actively screwed into the turn, rather than on higher and soft tires. And since ESP works, among other things, also on the rotation sensor, the less the angle of rotation of the wheels, the later it is excited, believing that it is still far away. Here is the threshold of the operation and moves away. And I with this soulless lady, who has some numbers in the head, fully agree. I do not know how will be in winter, but in the summer - in the buzz.

In addition, the coupling properties of these tires are slightly higher, and the steering wheel due to increased lateral forces becomes more "fun" and understandable. The main thing is not to pinch and frankly not sorting out with the speed at the entrance in turn. After all, ESP works predominantly to demolish, and when you start smoothly slipping with all four wheels, it refers to it calmer.

Active drivers will like - you can afford a little more than usual. Live machine!

By the way, about brakes. For ESP work disc brakes are preferable: they have speed above, especially on an uneven road. So replacing the rear brakes with drives in machines in top versions - not just Blazh

And how is the usual wizard West SW - on standard 16-inch wheels and with rear drum brakes? I do not know. But literally the other day, Cyril Mileshkin has already traded on serial universal - I hope he will share his impressions.

Of course, the tests ride not only on asphalt, but also on the crushed stone, on frankly broken roads and on the soil. And to assess the reliability of the suspension goes on a cobblestone. I also protrase SW Cross on a large cobblestone of the hungry mountain river. So, if not to fool, the machine allows a lot. It would seem, is about to eat a belly for stones - and there is still a stock! Of course, this is not a full-fledged crossover, but with such a suspension and with such clearance you feel very confident. To put here a self-block, and it would be quite wonderful. But this is from the discharge of offruding wishlists.

Finally, I posted a wagon on the cool asphalt inflection - so that the rear right wheel slightly broke away from the ground. The opening of the trunk doors retained its geometry, the door rises freely, the side doors also open easily. The hardness of the body is sufficient. But it is on an empty machine - and will it withstand the body with a load? Check on the serial cross.

What about the price?

Perhaps this is the main question. A few months ago, I assumed that the Vesta SW Cross in the top version (with the AMT robot) will take up to 850 thousand rubles. And at the end of the summer, Nicolas Mi spent me that the car will be. (Prices announced on September 19. The basic version of the station wagon in the Comfort configuration will cost 639,900 rubles. - Ed.)

The start date of sales is most likely November.

Most buyers of the abilities of the cross will be enough for the eyes. And the amount of its consumer qualities - capacity, passability, manageability, design, and so on, allows you to confidently say that he will work with more than any ruble embedded in it. And now it is already obvious that the demand for West SW wagon and his version of SW Cross will be higher than it was originally expected. AvtoVAZ is already reviewing the ratio of the production of sedans and universal.

And if in principle the wagon is not needed, but certainly you want something more "elevated" and a little more passable, there is an elegant solution. With black bumpers and "raised" suspension. I have already seen such cars on the conveyor - during an experienced assembly. Watching - sill. So it makes sense to wait.

Vesta Sv Cross, probably, the only domestic car, which you can buy with one eyes, without connecting the brain. Just look at her - beautiful! Especially in this exclusive color "Mars". Dream, not a car.

Looking at the exterior of the car, it seems that the "off-road version" was drawn first, and only then, by simplifying, received a simple wagon. If the usual Vesta SW 15th wheels look "wheels", then in the visually extended arches of the SW Cross wheel with 17-inch disks "sit", like gloss. It also plays black plastic on the threshold, visually reducing the height of the body and adding the road lumen, and it is so with a margin - as much as 203 mm.

In the cabin there is a single difference, but it is impossible not to notice it: the feeling that the car was transported in the car a full bucket of orange paint on a very bad road, while it was without a lid. The "orange" splashes are everywhere: on the seats, on the front panel and doors and even the devices got a savory paint charge. Do not like color experiments? Not a problem, from all this carnival of paints you can refuse and choose neutral gray finishes.

By installments, the car is not different from simple wizard wagon: there are and heated all and all (5 pcs.!), And navigating with a rear view camera, and even climate and cruise control.

The whole challenge difference comes down to other wheels: more discs, wider tires.

On the West Road SW Cross behaves similarly to a simple version, but on the off-road worse! The behavior of the suspension is similar to the work of pneumatic racks in the uppermost position, there are small moves and rigidity, only here it is achieved by non-cunning mechanisms, but with simple physics: Large wheels with not very high-profile tires miss the blows, then more stringent than in the standard, shock absorbers pass Punch is already on the body.

If the off-road you do not interest you, then on good roads, any Vesta is able to give pleasure from management, "off-road" version is not an exception. Accurate and moderately sharp steering wheel, good brakes, small rolls (although more than in the cross), and in the end we get a very gambling car, where you want to ride and ride.

What can stop the desire to ride a lot is a great fuel consumption, in life the average consumption of about 11 liters per hundred. Another problem for Tollyatinsky machines are traffic jams on the roads, a good automatic box, as it was not, and not, but not many satisfy the Robot of AMT.

Even in the cons of the "sublime" version, you can write the worse dynamics: the car is heavier and twist the 17th wheels are harder than the 15th, so we get in overclocking up to 100 km / h loss in one second, the fastest result in our measurements is 12.5 seconds.

Detailed prices can be found below on the page, but if briefly, the cross version is more expensive than 43,000 r. In the same configuration of LUXE, but the simple sobs is in a more democratic configuration of Comfort, and this will allow another 40,000 rubles in his pocket.

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Our first Vesta Cross test may answer the question whether it is necessary to overpay 43 thousand rubles per cross or dwell on a calm universal vest. Cross, it seems, shouts, take me, he struggled to prove his right and even climbed almost along the vertical wall of the Sochi Forest. Video Vesta Cross test, about how we, blasting stones, took the mountain heights below, specifications at the end of the article.

I will not list all the universals, which posted, starting with the VAZ 2102, my evolution stayed at the beveled back door Audi A7. Surprisingly, it seems to be in pursuit of tastes such as I buyers, Lada in its new universal moved away from almost vertical back wall. True, the tilt of the rear window turned out not so strong to, as in my sportsback, to abandon the janitor, but sufficient that the roof line acquires the trendy dynamics.

Lada-Vesta-SW and Lada-Vesta-SW Cross: I will imagine for a minute next to VAZ-2104. It seems to me that he will stand here like an ancient stone. What kind of dynamic roof line was then thought, immersed the refrigerator and to the cottage. And the universal Vesta even on the roof of "shark fins" carries - it is an outer antenna. That's what compete for me, a loved one.

According to the designer of Lada Steve Mattina "The roof line, starting from the outer mirrors, and the" shark fins "form a certain air elegant X." It turns out that it does not happen much on the pure car. If it were not for Xersi, I thought that Volvo. The double chrome pipe of the exhaust pipe is modern, on the right there is a place for two more false pipes.

Lada-Vesta-SW and Lada-Vesta-SW-Cross: Produced in Izhevsk. The basic wagon (right) looks simpler. It does not have two-color bumpers, sliding the body of plastic linings, it is 4 mm shorter and 25 mm below the cross.

Lada-Vesta-SW prices start from 639,900 rubles, in the CROSS base is more expensive by 116 thousand. But at the top, in the most expensive equipment, the difference is only 43 thousand (1.8 l., 16 CL, 122L.S., 5 AMT). The difference in 43 thousand can also be found in the middle of the price list (1.8, 16 cl., 122 hp, 5 mt).

Our first Vesta Cross test took place in Sochi, where we ride both in the forest, and on steep slides, Cross flames more aggressive bumpers with black and silvery lining, and, of course, body kit on the perimeter of the entire body. It seems like Butaforia, but with frequent ride on the ground and simply dirty roads, the lining must extend the life of paint on the thresholds and wheeled arches. And this is already a matter of corrosion resistance and commodity type of universal after a few years intensive operation. But the owners of simple universal, in the event of a distance from behind, can save - their bumper is fully borrowed from the sedan. But the cross bumper is original and quite difficult organized.

For Lada Vesta Cross in the forest somehow calmer, plastic body kit takes.

Is it possible to immerse the refrigerator?

The declared trunk volume is 480 liters. It seems not at all bad, but by lifting the back door, you find out clearly smaller than the bag, not all the refrigerator will fit. However, the floor panels are lifting, and under them is hidden a pair of organizers with a total volume of 95 liters. For convenience, the trunk can be divided into 2 parts, as well as completely remove plastic organizers.

Left place for storage of containers with a fixing strap, 15-liter niche in the right
wheel arches, covered with a lid.

With folded seats of the second row - 825 liters. The double floor with the organizer is aimed at creating a flat pad when folding the backs of the rear seats, but, as we see, it does not really work. The rear seat cushion will not stand vertically, it should be removed from the cabin to align the floor, you can take out, but this occupation is not easy.

Under the main floor, of course, a full-sized spare wheel, however, it is 15-inch and on the steel disk. Next to the Other Organizer and the thick layer of noise insulation. On the trunk sides, it is also provided compartments for trifles, hooks for packages and even a 12-volt socket. Unexpected luxury for a budget car. The fifth door is closed with powerful handles, which are provided to both on the left.

Sit behind.

Lada-Vesta-SW-Cross: Here the head does not rest in the ceiling, and the place for the legs and in enough. Unlike sedan, the distance from the seat to the ceiling increased by 25 mm. Extending a hand forward, you will find the heated of the rear seats.

With new rear doors, enter the back seat has become more convenient. A central armrest with a pair of cup holders appeared, and in the maximum version for the rear sofa seated behind the seat, the USB connector and a 12 volt socket. Here are just headrests are not too comfortable - in the upper position they are low for people with a growing 180 cm and above.

Let's go behind the wheel.

The wizard interior of the wagon is little different from. But Lada Cross painted from the soul.

Lada-Vesta-SW-Cross

Over the past 2 years, the vazovtsy not only managed to develop a wagon, but also a little finalized the interior. In the top versions, a full-fledged central armrest appeared. It is convenient to put my right hand on it, and inside there is a small compartment. In order to encourage the driver Vesta SW and Vesta Cross got the instrument panels.

Tolyattinians clearly spied this idea, he also has orange accents in the interior.

In a simple station wagon, the devices are only slightly summarized with color, and at the raised version on the speedometer the inscription CROSS and brighter accents. In addition, it is distinguished by contrasting inserts on the seats, another ornament on plastic inserts of the front panel and doors, as well as chrome handles. On the wagon handle matte.

Motor

Lada-Vesta-SW: 1.8-liter, 122-strong, 16-valve.

But the 1.8-liter 122-strong engine disappointed. Even in a pair with mechanics borrowed from Reno, the engine clearly does not justify expectations. We traveled to West together, and when accelerating in the floor, a set of speeds on higher transmission occurs slowly. Perhaps the problem is that test cars have not yet passed the running, and on odometers only 500-600 km. However, Korean classmates already at the exit from the factory, even with a more modest volume of 1.6 liters go better. On their background, the vazov engine trembles under load and even after 2000 rpm does not indulge the traction margin. Yes, Togliatti aggregates have proven themselves very reliable and maintainable, but in the modern world of this is already a little. It is clearly necessary, to improve the craving and on the bottoms, and at high speed.

Lada-Vesta-SW-Cross, like Brother Universal, is equipped with two motors - 1.6 (106 hp) and 1.8 liters (122 hp).

Not enough classic machine.

Well, of course, the main problem of the entire Vesti family is the lack of a full-fledged automatic transmission. It was not by chance that there were only cars with mechanics on the test, the vasers perfectly understand the inferiority of their robot (AMT) and are trying to be unnecessary to the journalists. It remains to hope only for help from abroad. Either Vesta will receive a 4-speed Jatco machine, which began to install again on a grant, or the French will share the variator from Renault Kaptur.

Still ride.

On the road Vesta, the universal is practically no different from the sedan. The body turned out to be very tough and the car should be perfectly driving. Baranca with a regular electric powerliner is a sample of accuracy and informativeness. Vesta Cross above 25 mm (blasting wagon 178 mm) and it has had its influence. While you go calmly, the difference is practically not catching, but at the shocks there are a little deeper body rolls that result from not only from high suspension, but also because of the wider and chain tires Pirelli.

At the crossing cross, the cross is a little more wagon.

Lada-Vesta-SW-Cross

And at the congress from the asphalt, it is better to reset a bit. Low-profile 17-inch wheels are not too complaining of sharp irregularities, but, secondly, the increase in the ground clearance led to a reduction in the passage of the pen. On the drips of the road the wheels are still in the air.

When posting one wheel, the trunk easily opens, which indicates the sufficient stiffness of the body.

If the car is fixed in this position, the trunk will open perfectly, and it's great. However, from the point of view of passability, the reduction of the passage of the penalty is a unambiguous minus. So, if the needs in an enlarged road list are not too big, try to do the usual wizard wagon or think about the transition to more modest wheels, it is possible that the tires with off-road pattern are better fit. But this is the topic for a separate conversation when the time for all-wheel drive weta comes.

Will there be a four-wheel drive?

Lada-Vesta-SW-Cross

To the question in the forehead about the exit date of Vesta Cross with a full drive of the vase holder in Russian evasive. It is said that the market is unlikely to be ready to buy such a car in large volumes, but not yet confirmed demand, no production. But considering that the rear beam on Vesta is very similar to the similar from Lada Largus, and therefore Renault Duster, technically, such an opportunity is probably there. It remains only to dock the box not from Logan, but from the all-wheel drive duster, pick up the suitable length of the cardanov and adjust the coupling in the rear wheel drive. But considering that the building of the station wagon took 2 years from Togliatti, instead of the promised one, all-wheel drive Vesta will have to wait in the hope that remains in the fashion trend.

So choose?

Those who want to truly large trunk, unequivocally look at the larger Largus Largus, it will take almost twice as much later, and passengers will be more convenient. But in essence, Largus is a big Logan of the first generation, with all the consequences. Vesta - the choice of the driver who wants to get primarily a stylish and dynamic car, and the perfectly trimmed trunk and an enlarged road clearance is a pleasant bonus that highlights Vesta cross from the line of ordinary sedans. Well, in general, the hint understood.

We also add that Vesta Cross is a good signal that Lada ... (pah, ugh, ugh), maybe.

Video Vesta Cross Test Down, at the end specifications.

Lada Vesta SW - Lada Vesta SW Cross

Not a traditional family universal truck, like Largus, and a more dynamic, stylish model with a lower roof. Single Russian Shooting Brake. And we take back our former words that the sedan Vesta is the most beautiful car from AvtoVAZ ...

Lada Vesta SW / SW Cross 79 new body parts, including protective plastic body kit. In the body itself introduced amplifiers compensating for the absence of a partition in the trunk, which has a sedan. But xenon or linased headlights are still not!

Because the "car" with its "soaring" the roof looks much cooler and, most importantly, harmonious! Although the SW is lower below, it is essentially that sedan, only improved. And what really is so different? This and other questions of our readers will reply.

Question from rkhabibullin.

Smells of plastic in the cabin?

How brightly the SW Cross looks outside, so inside - all the same Vesta, already familiar to us through test sedans. Here is a familiar buckle of doors when closing, won a familiar piece of the foam sealer looks out between the windshield and torpedo ...

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But there are differences. The characteristic flavors of the finish still remained, although the "phonite" is already less and weathered the smell quickly. The folding armrest on the driver's seat was replaced by a central boxing with a soft lid, which is convenient to rely hand (on the doors armrests are all the same tough). And heated the front seats is already 3-speed.

Orange inserts "Eyes" at SW Cross can be replaced with gray. Plastic Everywhere Hard, "Shumka" Average: Torpedo and windshield creaks on the bumps, the motor is noise. The phone is more convenient to throw in the subcount than in the long niche, and the central boxing is now preventing the use of the "handler". The rear view cameras are a good picture and trajectory prompts. Quality sound "music" - quite acceptable.

The steering wheel is adjustable along the angle of inclination and departure, the driver's seat is in the height and degree of the lumbar backpage. But why does the steering wheel of the tight configuration mechanism? Do not please the short seat cushion and its high backward front edge. The shoulders hang in the air without support on the pillow, although she also supports the lower back - after addiction, I, as it is called, has been pricious. In the turns from the "saddle" you will not fall out due to good lateral support and dense landing.

But because of the layout of the pedal node, it is not so easy to choose the position under them so as not to sit "on the semi-bent". The playground under the left leg is all the same kutsaya and uncomfortable, do not pull out the leg. Pedals are tightly, a large shoe periodically put on gas and brakes right away, plus you catch a mystery for a decorative panel over the brake pedal.

The instruments are the same, but the orange rings on them are only the versions of SW Cross. It looks cheerful, although radial digitization is inconvenient. The route computer is detailed, but its control of the two buttons is still in the same way, without instructions not to understand.

In general, comments on the car this time got pretty. For example, it surprises the difference in efforts and tactile sensations on the buttons and handles, and slippery "climates" climate controls are chatted and almost not recorded during rotation. The SW Cross equipment includes a light and rain sensor, the left janitor now wider cleans his zone ... But the "janitors" will still shudder after the stop, howling the engine maker, and the rear nozzle does not spray "wash" on the glass fifth door, but simply pours it . Yes, and the light of halogen headlamps is not impressed with the brightness - neither the neighbor or the far. Of the advantages - the fog will noticeably expand the lighting border.

Maybe on the move Vesta SW Cross will please more? After all, she has an adhesive suspension and as much as 1.8 under the hood ...

1. On the front doors - familiar asymmetry. Left door - with an open shelf ...
2. ... Right - with a door handle, because of it it is inconvenient to use the windows. Window key keys are very tight.
3. Thresholds due to protective linings at SW Cross became wider, take care of the pants.

Question from palomar

What is 1.8 such, it is possible in more detail?

Motor VAZ-21179 (not to be confused with the VAZ-21128 engine from the Atelier Super-Auto) - both the event, and the next "long-term" in the history of AvtoVAZ. It began to develop him back in 2006, and in 2008 they attracted the English Engineering Firm Ricardo to the rescue. In the series, the engine went only in February 2016. He first received Xray, then Vesta, on the queue - Largus. Based on the cast iron unit and aluminum head of the 1,6-liter VAZ-21127 unit (21129 on Vesta and Xray). But the volume of changes is such that this is, in fact, a new engine.

The engine volume was adjusted to 1.8 liters, extending the piston's move due to the new vazovsky crankshaft and shouted by 5 mm rods. Increased valves of Mahle and South Korean hollow camshafts are lightweight. The connecting rod-piston group is also lightweight, from Federal Mogul, with enhanced pistons. The network appear the digits of the motor resource in 220,000 km. But it is necessary to remember that due to the shorten rod with the grown angle of inclination, the piston is now stronger than the walls of the cylinder, and the elongated labor movement increases its speed. All this can accelerate the wear of the cylinder-piston group, so the question of the new motor resource is still open.

1. The cooling glove box is now with a smooth opening of the lid, which received a cup holder.
2. Gray "leather" inserts on the seats as a magnet attract dirt.
3. The front armchairs received a 3-step heated. The back is heated weaker pillows.

Lubrication and cooling systems - with additional channels, the inlet and the release also processed. The oil pump of the Korean company GMB (she also bought a more productive water pump) now rolls twice as much oil. This is necessary for the hydraulic phase displayer on the inlet camshaft, which the vazovsky motor received for the first time. The regulator itself of the phase distribution is the German company INA. Fuel ramp supplies Continental, nozzles - increased performance. The timing belt is driven with a new automatic tensioner from INA.

Note that earlier on Xray, the engine 1.8 has already noted with "Mased". The reason was rooted in the MAHLE MAHLE VALVE BATTERS, on the rods of which were risks from poor machining. AvtoVAZ stated that he corrected the situation, and on the "referee" oil machines under warranty changed the head of the block assembly. By the way, about these and other "sores" and we have already written in the heading.

Question from iWillBreaku.

What is the speaker?

Motor volume of 1.6 L is 106 "Forces" at 5800 rpm and 148 nm at 4200 rpm. Engine 1.8 - this is already 122 hp At 5900 rpm and 170 nm at 3700 rpm. Straight to say, there is a neutoy for our time. And the more powerful version of the 1,8-liter motor AvtoVAZ clearly holds for where 149 is expected, and in perspective and 180 hp. But it is waiting for no earlier than 2018. This means that the masters of chip tuning will not be left without work: they already offer firmware for the engine 1.8.

According to the factory data, the test SW Cross 1.8 with the manual transmission in acceleration to 100 km / h per 1.4 seconds faster than the version with a motor 1.6: 11.2 sec against 12.6. Where does such a difference come from? Not only because of the power. Motor 1.8 combines the Renault JR515 manual box, collected in AvtoVAZ. And the gear ratios of her "shorter" than the VAZ "mechanics" 21807 in a pair with a motor 1.6. But there is another key difference. SW Cross with a 1.8 engine and mechanical gearbox - the only version in the entire Vesta family, in which the gear ratio of the main gear is 4.2. All other Vesta is more "speed" - 3.9.

1. The universals received a central box, in which the USB port and the heating buttons of the rear sofa, which is first embedded on the "Ladakh".
2. Over the ceiling finally appeared the second lighting ceiling.
3. On the universal debut and the folding armrest of the rear seats. But it is only for the top version of Luxe Prestige. The ceiling on the rear sofa is 2.5 cm higher than that of the sedan.

Vazovts say that such shortened gear ratios "increase comfort at the beginning of the movement and ease of controlling the car on roads with complex coatings." Check. The turn of the key, a characteristic second pause on startup, and ... Listen, why even a heated motor so diesel taughty at idle and when overclocking with low turns on the fifth gear?! Complaints for "Deliemp" were already on motors of 1.6 liters, but it turns out that he did not win him on a new engine?

But to touch from the 1st transmission and the truth is very easy: the thrust is like on a diesel engine, not even lying with the "mechanics" will cope and will not stall, we checked. To the long-time, but easy and quite informative complaints of claims either. But the rest ...

In traffic can easily crawl on the 1st gear even at idle. But a little touch the pedal of gas - and the car twitches forward. She would have such an impatient acne when overclocking! And then, after all, I turn to the second, I give gas, but instead of active acceleration - failures and jerks. It seems to be a more "lower" motor - and from these very "bottoms" is reluctant. Up to 2000 rpm it is not like, and only 3000 rpm begins pickup. Moreover, high revs are expected to be accompanied by hard sound, with a supervision and familiar roar.

On the SW / SW Cross wagons with a motor 1.8 debuted the long-awaited disc brakes of the rear wheels. There are no questions about the brakes: powerful, grip, informative, with a short pedal move - they will easily withstand a more powerful engine.

The gearbox also has questions. On the tight lever, the checkpoints go vibrations and shocks, and when turned on 3 and 5 steps, "pliers" occur. (I remember, the VAZ "mechanics" left a more pleasant impression). On the track, the reverse side of the shortened gear ratios of transmission is searched. The fifth gear, 100 km / h - the tachometer shows about 2600 rpm, and 110 km / h there is almost 3000 rpm there. And this, as you understand, and the excess noise of the motor, and extra consumption.

In general, I will not say that the engine 1.8 is very impressed by the dynamics, we waited more. And, judging by the reviews of other commercial journalists, they did not wait for this not only we. Yes, 1.8 pulls better than the 1.6 engine, only this difference is not so cardinal and failed for the "younger motor". The unit of 1.8 could reveal its potential after tuning, but if you do not need it, then the engine is 1.6 - the most rational choice.

As for the expense, 6.7 l / 100 km on the highway and a bit in the city, and 7.8 l / 100 km, taking into account the labels on primers. In the city along the route computer, the appetite can rise to 10 l / 100 km and above. It is not surprising, because the passport appetite in the city is 10.7 l / 100 km (Motor 1.6 "eats" exactly 1 liter less).

Question from iWillBreaku.

Are they strong rolls?

About how the Vesta SW Cross is ruling and ruling, it is necessary to tell, because the wagon is seriously different from the sedan, and from "just" SW. The body of the "wagons" tougher to twist, and another SW and SW Cross 70 kg are heavier than the sedan, the capacity of their trunk is more, so they have more rigid rear springs.

Pitch from the "cross" version is wider: 1524 mm versus 1510 mm at the sedan and the usual SW. And the crossing from Cross is also its own: longer, with other springs and shock absorbers, and settings that take into account not only the weight gain, but also the increase in the center of gravity. Wheels - only 17-inch, with 205/50 rubber (the test machine was on the winter "velcro" Michelin X-ICE). All together it gives the CROSS versions of the claimed clearance in the "crossover" 203 mm (!) Against 178 mm at the sedan and the usual SW, which are not laid 17-inch discs.

The volume of the "hold" Vesta SW Cross is 480 l to the shelves-curtains behind the rear sofa (like a sedan) and 825 l, when it is complicated (to the bottom line). Renault Duster 4x2 has been declared 475-1636 l, Skoda Rapid - 530-1470 l. In addition to lamps and hooks for grids and bags, in the trunk there is a socket on 12 V.

By the way, the wheels are smaller at SW Cross will not. Why, if the usual Vesta SW is offered and size 185/65 R15, and 195/55 R16, you ask?! In Tolyatti, they fear that it will reduce the clearance (8 mm, if you believe the tire calculator) and declare that the crossover "cross" was adjusted precisely under 17-inch rubber. And what was configured in the end?

On the asphalt, a tightly shot suspension does not notice the road "trifle" and well smoothes average irregularities - you can not ceremony at speed and do not bother with traces. Although the "lying policemen" feels that due to the suspension and low-profile rubber SW Cross tougher sedan: if you do not slow down, the "face" throws up until the shock absorbers on the hug, and the feed passes irregularities with a good kick. But in the running turns and on active rebuilding, the machine does not fall and gives a resistant feeling that this chain and collected chassis will easily withstand and more powerful motor.

The steering wheel with the electric power maker makes 2.8 turns from the stop until it stops, the weight at low speeds, although it is already heavy at speed, it is stronger and less sensitive in the okolonese zone. At first, SW Cross also asks microcruites, but after addiction to the car it is less noticeable.

1. Is it possible to spend the night in SW Cross? A man with an increase of up to 175 cm (in the photo) will fall smoothly, if higher - already diagonally.
2. Under the second floor - another foam pallet pan and Pirelli Formula Energy 185/55 R15 spare on the steel disk.
3. Trunk - Barahler's Dream! At the right wheel - another niche for 15 liters.

All of the essence of the ventilation with an adhesive and more energy-intensive suspension is revealed on the calaes and bombed crushed stone graders. On them cheerfully runs and the usual Vesta, but how it allows you to "pour" the cross-version ... yes it is already a crossover, and not a car! First, on rural bumps and pits, you cautiously, wait that now there will be a hard breakdown of suspension or contact with the bottom, but nothing happens, the suspension keeps a blow. And you start to bold, to heal: here we already overtake the passenger cars swaying around the bumps, drive around "Niva", here in thoughts already Renault Duster You have a row ...

By their ability to "digest" our SW Cross roads are also a provocateur. From the restraining factors - fears, as if at low-profile rubber, the "hernia" did not get out of the blows. The second point: with active ride on large pits, the suspension threatens and thumps, especially the front - Vesta, it seems that this is a family. And shakes, of course, rigorously and sharp, passengers (especially the rear) for a long time "Rally-Style" tolerate will not be caught. So often ride on broken roads, it makes sense to look for rubber with a profile higher: and the move is softer, and the tires are more likely.

Question from Teamagnat.

Why there is no full drive?

This issue is already so many years, if you figure it out ... In the 2000s, at AvtoVase, they tried several times to admit a full drive to their passenger models. In 2001, the experimental universal LADA 111 GTI 2.0 4X4 was made, and in 2007 a prototype "Kalina" named Lada 1117 4WD - both machines for this even made the rear independent suspensions. Read more - in our unrealized projects of AvtoVAZ.

Real clearance at SW Cross is even more declared: Under the bottom point of protection of the motor, the roulette shows 215 mm! The anti-test system simulates interstole blocking well, and while the wheels are clinging, Vesta is lazzed on off-road. With a full drive, there would be a bomb!

Alas, then several prototypes did not advance. After all, due to the large volume of conversion alterations, such a car is too expensive at the output. And on AvtoVAZ, it is not yet confident that the Russian buyer is ready to pay for it. Especially today.

But there is another option. In 2016, all-wheel drive Renault Logan and Sandero began to experience in Tolyatti, where the rear wheels twist the hydrophotus transmission of the French company Poclain Hydraulic. To do this, a pump is installed in a regular gearbox, which shakes the hoses oil to the traction hydraulic engine. If Logan and Sandero eventually get it, then why not try with "West"? However, on our question about the full drive (including hydraulic) at AvtoVAZ, they respond to "continue research in this direction, but about specific deadlines and decisions to speak early."

Question from Bogdanchik_517

Will Vesta in the body coupe or hatchback?

There are even no speech about the "jewelry" Vesta, but the spy photos of the prototypes of the hatchback in the network were previously flashed. But in 2016, the President of AvtoVAZ Nicolas Mor reported about the refusal of the hatchback and stated that the company relies on the wagon.

Question from ablexovvv

When will anything be better than the dumb "robot"? Herrotransformer or at least a variator?

The slowness "Robot" AMT (Box of the VAZ-21827 series with ZF electrocators) with one-piece "dry" clutch is already known. By the way, we also bored this "thoughtfulness" during the sedan Vesta AMT. And AvtoVAZ now considers new "two-week" options. One of them is an infinitely variator of the Renault-Nissan Alliance.

1. Motor 1.8 can be distinguished from 1.6 in the intake manifold. Removing the decorative cover, take care of the fastening rubber bushings, they easily fall out of the attachments and are lost.
2. When posting slightly "bites" only the right front door.
3. Steel motor protection is already in the database, and even the bottom gives good permeability.

In the spring of this year, there was information that the prototype of Lada Vesta was already ready with a variator. The manufacturer allegedly busy with the choice of suppliers, and the product modification of such "Vesta" will be ready for the beginning of 2018. But on our question about the specifics, the press service of AvtoVAZ is still answering that "we see the interest from the market on other types of automatic transmissions, we work in this direction, but no decisions are not yet accepted." In short, we are waiting for 2018.

Question from eduard_tcigankov.

Will the version on methane?

In July 2017, AvtoVAZ began selling a two-fuel sedan Lada Vesta CNG with "mechanics" and a 106-strong motor of 1.6 liters, operating on gasoline and compressed natural gas. AvtoVAZ declares that the total fuel supply (55 liters of gasoline and 90 l in the gas cylinder) gives a mileage of 1000 km without refueling. And the use of methane reduces the cost of fuel 3 times. Gas-gasoline Vesta is sold in 4 sets at a price of 749,900 to 864,900 rubles.

On our question about whether the methane version of the SW / SW Cross will be, the following will respond in the press service of AvtoVAZ.

"If we talk about the diagram used on the Lada Vesta CNG sedan, then there is no, since the cylinder in the trunk will not allow the benefits of the single-sharing body. But if there is a corresponding request from the market - we will work out the options. Propane is not considered, since this gas is more dangerous and Less stable in quality. "

Question from Badi_monso.

Is it expensive?

Yes, Lada Vesta SW Cross today is the most expensive VAZ model. And if the sedan and ordinary SW have cheap configurations (Classic and Comfort), then the "cross" is sold only in Luxe versions. A variant with a motor 1.6 and manual transmission - from 755,900 rubles. The engine is 1.8 and "mechanics" costs from 780 900, with a "robot" - already from 805,900 rubles for the basic LUXE to the maximum 847,900 rubles for Luxe Prestige! For comparison, the price range for the usual Universal SW is from 639,900 to 804,900 rubles.

Wheelboards for 17 inches, cargo rails, spoiler on the trunk doors, 2-tank nozzle for exhaust, mirrors and door handles in body color - basic equipment SW Cross.

However, even the basic SW Cross Luxe is well equipped. There are 4 airbags, a stabilization system with a start-up assistant, double floor trunk, climate control with a cooled glover, heated mirrors (with servo), windshield and front seats, electric windows "Circle", light, rain and parking power windows (rear), multi-cruise control and magnetol with 4 columns.

The Luxe Multimedia version (from 779,900 rubles) is complemented by a rear view chamber and a multimedia system with a 7-dupar screen and navigation. Test SW Cross (1.8 liters, manual transmission) was in the top execution of Luxe Prestige for 822,900 rubles. Here is the LED lighting of the cabin, the armrest and heating the rear sofa, the tinting of the rear glasses.

And what is competitors? There are options are cheaper, but SW Cross replays them all by the price-equipment ratio. For example, Hatch Renault Sandero Stepway clearance in 195 mm and price range without options in 649,990-765 990 rubles. But it is very smaller than the "Vesti", and the car close to the equipment to the base SW Cross is already from 780,000 rubles per motor 1.6 (82 hp) with the MCPP. For the engine at 113 hp It is necessary to pay extra 40,000 rubles, for a 4-step automaton - 70,000 rubles.

The newest raised Kia Rio X-Line is larger than Sandero Stepway, but it has only 170 mm clearance. And the prices are Others: only 1.4 liters (100 hp) with a 6-speed MCP will be sold for 774,900 rubles. The engine is 1.6 (123 hp) costs from 799,900 rubles, and for a 6-range automaton in both cases will be asked for another 40,000 rubles. To get a comparable level of equipment, like the top SW Cross, prepare at least 964,900 rubles.