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The bestseller of the Russian market and the cheapest Lada (cost from 420 thousand rubles) The model of the first generation grant is issued since 2011 without significant changes (in the bodies of Sedan and Liftbek) and of course the car update has long since the renewal. In AvtoVAZ, this is understood, and in this 2018. The car was small restyling, and completely new generation will appear in 2021-2023. It is based on the Renault-Nissan platform B0 developed by the Renault-Nissan Alliance, subsequently subjected to serious upgrades. By the way, it will be applied in design and Logan in a new body.

Official photos of an updated grant in the body sedan

New Lada Grant 2018 - Restyling

In 2018, the update touched only the appearance of the model and the interior, the technical part will remain completely the same. Thanks to this, it is not worth a significant increase in the price of a new Lada Grant. Main changes - new before Vesta.

New Body options

It is noteworthy that the new grant after the update completely changed the facilities of the Kalina, which was removed from production. In the future, AvtoVAZ will have only one model of budget vehicles. In addition to traditional sedans and liftback, now the hatchback with a wagon and cross-universal has appeared in the ruler. No matter how difficult it is to guess, it will be practically copies of viburnum but with the Granta icon. As a result, the line of modifications will look like this:

• liftbek
• hatchback
• universal
• cross Universal

Specifications will remain almost unchanged: only the acceleration time due to the reconfigured transmissions of the MCPP and AMT will change. Plus, the "robot" will appear the creeping mode as on Vesta.

Purchased family, though without cross wagon

In the photo New Lada Grant 2018 FL (sedan)

Prices

Sedan and Liftbek rose, but versions passed from Kalina on the contrary, they fell due to simpler packages.

• sedan: from 420 thousand rubles (+10 thousand)
• liftbek: from 437 thousand rubles (+2 thousand)
• hatchback: from 437 thousand rubles (-23.7 thousand)
• universal: from 447 thousand rubles (-28.3 thousand)
• cross Universal: the price is not yet called

On the photo of Liftbek Lada Grant 2018

New hatchback ...

... and universal

New Universal Lada Grant Cross

Appearance

The first images with an updated sedan, which will receive the FL (Facelifting) console, appeared in social networks in early 2018. It was reported that the photo where the prototype was visible with the camouflage film applied to it were made in Togliatti on the territory of the Vazovsky "technical scientific center. At the end of July, AvtoVAZ completely declassified an updated family.

Analyzing the existing pictures is noticeable that the form of the trunk of the new sedan is slightly changed, and the front part of the body has become somewhat narrowed, in the style of Vesta. After the update, all Granta will also acquire the front panel from viburnum with minor changes.

It was one

Salon at the new grant - Kalinovsky with minor changes like a new instrument panel. He is of course oak, but it was better than it was

Release date and prices

Present Restyled Lada Granta 2018 should have already during Moscow Motor Show Already at the end of this summer, however, production has already begun on August 14.

The prices of the new Lada grant of 2018 in the body of Sedan and Liftbek will remain at the same level, the only question will be how to cost the hatchback and cross wagon, because Kalina, from which the models will come, was positioned slightly more expensive.

All photos

New generation

The "second" grant will use the upgraded Globak Access platform ( B0.), Developed by Renault. The same platform is planned to be used in the following generations of Logan.

It is interesting that the platform prepared for the new grants from Reno is quite universal - it will be engaged in the next generation of off-road LADA 4x4. This decision is not new and has already been used in Duster and Logan models.

All machines using one platform will go from the Togliatti conveyor. By 2021, Renault, which domestic AvtoVAZ belongs to, is planning to increase the volume of car production, in numerical expression bringing them to a million copies per year. All manufactured models will receive a unified platform.

No one knows how the new generation will look like, it is only fantasy designers

New Body and Prices

It is too early: the design is still in the development process, and the cost of course will be predicted to increase: gradually AvtoVAZ departs from the image of the manufacturer of budget vehicles (only look at the price of Vesta and X Reya), how far he goes - .

release date

According to one data, the following Granta will appear 2023, however, there is information that it can happen before - to 2021. Who will lead this project, is already known. The chief engineer was appointed Batischeva Vasily, who worked on the creation of the "first" generation, and the head of the project will be Bazhanova Olga, who was previously responsible for the prior.

Before submitting a grant in a new body, in 2018 the existing model expects a small facelifting (see above). At the same time, it may stop its existence of a model range of Kalina, and its modifications will be included in the Granta family.

History

A grant has been made since 2011 and is represented by modifications with the body of Liftbek, as well as a sedan. The model 106-, 98- or 87-strong engines with a working volume of 1.6 liters are equipped. There is also a sports modification of grants, where the same power unit forced to 114 "horses". Transmission is represented by "automatic" by 4 ranges or "mechanics" with 5 steps.

Lada Grant is currently available at a price of 399 thousand rubles.

Based on the information provided by alive users with a long service life, it will be much easier to make a choice based on a compressed array of information regarding the most important components of the auto operation, providing maximum custom comfort.

Salon car Lada

"Regarding the cabin, there are two opinions contrary to each other: the first one and a half years of driving on trips are further than 50 km at me on the driver's seat of the spin. But the wife in the back seat was unusually comfortable. "

Alexander, Lada Grant Liftbek.6 (106 hp) with a Robot AMT 2015, the owner's review.
"The salon gives a large number of opportunities for tuning thanks to a large number of free space! It is only important not to rearrange, otherwise it will look unesthetically. You can put a stereo, new mats, comfortable armrests and so on. I plan to do all this in the near future. And I want to install a spoiler "

Reviews of Lade from the owner of Liftbek1.6 (106 hp) with a 2015 robot.
"The salon is quite spacious, as well as in Lada Kalina, however, due to changes in the arrangement of the front panel, less space remains less space for comfortable placement of legs for the front passenger. Plastic impact resistance is at a lower level than the model range of the first generation of Lada Kalina. In counterweights of susceptibility to shock, the rigidity of plastic panels is approximately at the same level. As for seats, they are much better keeping the form than in previous models. The material used for the upholstery of the floor and the seats does not cause complaints, however, due to the black color, the whole sticking garbage can be seen. "

Liftbek 2018 review of the owner with the mechanics of 2017 release.
"The salon is sufficiently tidy and pleases with a high-quality assembly, but I would like to note that sun glare is often reflected on the screen. Sound insulation in the factory configuration is rather weak, but in the near future I want to fix it yourself "

Pavel, Liftbek Avtomat Reviews.
"The salon does not have to talk about him for a long time - the assembly looks quite simple and cheap. But the stove in the cabin is just great, fries well enough. Acoustics is also good, personally, if I do not bother on the cleanliness of the sound of music, everything suits. "

Chassis Lada Grant Liftbek

Vladimir, Liftbek, reviews of owners.
"The car is still happy, it is no longer for nothing. I checked the running part on the eve of winter and everything is in perfect order, nothing is broken and does not fail. It also starts easily, not capricious "

Nikita, Grant Liftbek 2018 Reviews
"The chassis is definitely the part over which they tried. All the irregularities of the relief and numerous bumps along the road pass perfectly, the classic Renault Logan is remembered, whose suspension also often praised. When driving on the grant, I immediately remembered the Logan suspension, but the Lifterbek is somewhat resistant. Such effect is achieved due to the castor of the front wheels, the stabilizer in the front part, which was subsequently removed from Logan, as well as springs on the rear wheels. It is a pity that such a high-quality suspension is simply not provided for such a high-quality suspension "

Maxim, reviews for Lada Grant Liftbek 2017
"The flaws of this model are leveled due to the low price of the car. The main components, including the engine, fail quite rarely, and to the chassis, it is not forced to do something in terms of reliability when moving "

Paul, new Lada Grant Liftbek reviews
"Lada Grant is equipped with a reliable 1.6-liter gasoline unit, the mechanical gearbox works steadily well and does not break. Chassis and front-wheel drive are also rare enough. "

Alfaman, Liftbek 2017, reviews
"Back in 2013 acquired Lada a grant in the middle configuration. As for the power and reliability of the engine, the stability of the gearbox and the front drive, as well as the characteristics of the chassis and indicators of user comfort, then all at a fairly high level for its price "
Peter Efremov, Liftbek Standard, review

Engine Lada Grant

"When choosing a car for me a fundamental question was that the manufacturer necessarily VAZ. After reading many articles on this topic, it was decided to stop your choice on the grant. Compared with the 99th, on which, at one time, traveled almost half-edged, grant, definitely worthy of admiration. Based on all the technical characteristics, the car is definitely worth it. A gasoline engine with a capacity of 1.6 liters performs its functions to 5 with a plus, not breaking "

Leonid Maversels, Lada Liftbek Automat Reviews.
"My car is definitely satisfied with me. Of course, at first, the box and the engine behaved unnaturally a little, but all the malfunctions were removed under warranty. Most likely, this is a single case, and similar problems with the engine show themselves immediately, so that there will be no such car. In general, the car is reliable, not counting those cases with a box and engine, there were no more problems "

George Svetlov, Lada Granta Liftbek Reviews
"In one of the car dealership of the official network of Lada, I was informed that the engine resource would be about 300 thousand kilometers. In fact, before this figure is not running, the engine does not have to repair. In any case, the safety of the engine depends in many respects from operation, oil use and other factors "

Airat Kadirmayev, Lada Grant, Liftbek 2018 in new reviews
"Engine. Motor with sixteen valves is much quieter than an eight-flaped, which I installed on my old Kalina. It works smoothly, but also does not make noise at the same time as an aircraft carrier. Since I also run through, I do not interpret the pedal to the floor, however, it is felt that it is capable of greater. In my opinion, this is exactly the engine and should stand on the car. I do not regret the acquisition "

Grant Liftbek, reviews 106
"The interior is highlighted, it is clear that they tried to design. The engine starts well even in the cold, while in a few seconds. The luggage compartment is very spacious, moreover, the seats can be thrown back. Acoustics also keeps the level "
Denis Davydenko, Grant Liftbek, 87 hp, reviews.
Suspension Lada Grant Liftbek: Reviews
"I moved to Liftbek from Kalina and did not notice any special changes in the suspension. The only thing that pleased is rigid stabilizers, so the grant at speed does not wind up as it was with Kalina. In any case, I will still run up to feel the difference "

Andrew
"On the suspension. I do not know how there are in other equipment, but on my luxury the difference is noticeable, especially when you go on off-road. Swallows all the pans and pits when traveling, while the car almost does not shake, as it was with previous versions. I also want to note how the machine behaves with sharp turns. Previously, especially if the fucking track is, you almost fly out of the car, with Liftbek this has not happened. Rear shock absorbers work on perfectly. "

Carexpert.
"I expected that the basic" Kalinovskaya "suspension at least somehow finalize on the grant, but the changes are completely insignificant. Stabilizers have become better, but also on Kalina, if not worn throughout the road, with the position of the car, everything is fine. I would like modifications to be a little more noticeable. "

Evgeny Pavlov
"Move with the old 99 on a grant and if compared to the suspension - then it is just the sky and the earth. I do not know how this item will change when operating, but now even on the fierce road, the chosable is simply not felt, the only ways are absorbed. Very pleased with such reliability! "

Freeman.
"Perhaps this is a factory marriage, but my suspension flew to the first week after the purchase. It would be a minus if I didn't put back it and for several months it goes well. The suspension was not cracked, everything was fine with her, probably just assembly curve "Alexander Panchenko

Video - Honest review of the owner of Lada Grant Liftbek or why not buy a grant

Video - Lada Granta - after year of operation. Cons and pros

Pros and cons of Liftbek grants

According to the reviews, the most often mentioned flaws of Lada Grant Liftbek look like this:

• Salon Interior design looks not good and unpretentious.
• Transmissions Lack of fixation of the gear shift lever in one position provided intensive use
• Noisy gearbox during operation The gearbox starts to make noise
• Bad resistance to the course with high acceleration The car begins to fasten from side to the side
• Corrosion of the body part This flaw is corrected, but in many old models there is a body part wear

In turn, the pluses of Liftbek grants look like this:

• Manufacturer - AvtoVAZ, Russia
• Year of issue - 2012
• In the operation "driving" - from August 2012
• Mileage at the time of the report - 90 000 km
• Publications in V. - 2012, № 10; 2014, № 1 ; 2015, № 7

With a 70,000 mileage on braking, the pedal was "trembling". Suspicion Palo on the front brake discs. They were checked by measuring axial beating, - the preliminary diagnosis was confirmed. Perhaps the discs were led after several intensive braking. Brake discs replaced, naturally, together with - vibration disappeared.

Periodic failures and jerks on small revolutions and lower gears appeared at 73,000 km. In urban trips, especially in the peak hours on traffic jams, it is very annoyed. In addition, the nerves drpalled on the instrument panel signal Check Engine. Diagnostics showed an error "ignition skipping". They checked the candles, replaced high-voltage wires, carefully examined the wiring, the ignition module was tested with the help of diagnostic equipment - everything is normal. However, the engine continued to twitch. While thought, how to be further, a miracle happened - the engine began to work smoothly. And more this ailment did not appear. Wonders...

At 88,000 km, the other test lamp caught fire, who won the ABS fault. The reason was determined quickly: the sensor wire fell off on the rear wheel. Moreover, this fault arose reused - shortly before that the sensor was already repaired. The repair was combined with the replacement of brake drums along with the pads: old grinched during braking. Disassembly showed uneven wear. At the same time replaced the rear wheel bearing, in which there was already a fair backlash.

The largest trouble launched a grant for 89,900 km. In more than a hundred kilometers from Moscow, the engine suddenly lost its power and stalled, and attempts to start it were not crowned with success. In the rope, Lada proceeded to the technical center, where she was taken out of a disappointing verdict: a stubborn water pump cut off the teeth on the timing belt, the phases were shifted and the pistons met with valves. And after all, nothing foreshadowed troubles: the pulley of the pump was not the backlash, the alarming noise and whistles were not, and the belt was changed by 75,000 km.

The engine disassembly calmed down a little: only valves were injured. True, all eight. Pistons are intact, although they remained noted from a sudden meeting. It can be said, hazardous blood - I had to replace the valves, engineering caps, engine gaskets, pump and timing belt with a roller. Spare parts facilitated a pocket of about 8,000 rubles, and work performed on their own - on the side of the repair it would be worth eight thousand.

Judging by the reviews on the Internet forums, we are far from the only one with whom such trouble happened. And the culprit of the serious repair of the engine turned out again to the water pump failed. We will try to figure out what is the reason, and tell about it in the next reports. A grant again in the ranks and continues to turn the mileage further.

P. S. When the material was already preparing for layout, the call of colleagues rang: the grant ranged a few kilometers from the editor. What happened to her this time, let's tell later. Yes, the old woman does not give.

Expenses for operation and maintenance (15,000-90,000 km) *, rub.

Lada Grant is an excellent option of the budget sedan. The car front-wheel drive, it has an attractive appearance and a pretty decent complete set. The cost of the vehicle is low, so it is in demand in the market. Despite the modern technical characteristics, a new engine, an increased security system and a rich car package has drawbacks. They need to know and take into account about them, acquiring the model of Lada Grant.

As practice shows, any car has its weaknesses. Lada Granta did not exception. This brand of the car is not ideal and after a number of studies, its sores were identified, which in the end spoil the whole picture and cause frequent breakage. Therefore, they require special attention from the owner by the vehicle.

Weak places of Lada Grant:

• Salon;
• Headlights;
• Electronics;
• Thermostat;
• Body;
• Chassis;
• Transmission;
• Brake pads.

Now more ...

Salon is a clearly weak side of the car. From the first minutes of the operation of the car you can see a number of its flaws. The first is associated with the handle responsible for adjusting the seat. It is fragile enough and breaks quickly. In addition, the transmission lever cover also leaves much to be desired. Low quality material and cracks. During operation constantly carries out from under the knob.

Almost immediately begins to flash the light bulb controlling the operation of airbags. It indicates their malfunction. Soon, facing the windows. They begin to eat and publish an unpleasant sound when lowering the glass.

The car has air conditioning, but the quality of its work is quite low. It does not help the task. In the afternoon in the heat of his work almost invisible. Especially if the car is worth it.

Headlights, Electronics, Thermostat

The vulnerable place is the rear headlights. They sweat quickly and poorly fixed. From the side of the lamps, large gaps, in which dust and dirt quickly accumulate. It will be necessary to conduct activities to remove it.

As for electronics, it has become a disadvantage on the first cars of this model. Quite often, the emblem on the harness of the wires occurs. In addition, the generator faults occur. The problem lies in its bearings and belt.

In principle, the cooling system has no complaints. Problems appear only with a thermostat and not all models. This sore is mainly characteristic of cars released until 2012.

The above disadvantages are insignificant and relatively harmless. If we talk about the body, then this is a serious minus of the vehicle. Paint on it quickly rubs. As a result, the body remains without a protective layer and begins to rust. This suggests that the installation of the car was incorrect. At the same time, plastic bumpers are not painted at all that many buyers do not really like.

Chassis, gearbox, brake pads

The chassis of the car has become its important disadvantage. The front racks are started to make an unpleasant sound. It manifests itself in the form of a knock on 6 thousand km of mileage. Over time, the brackets stretching traction located on the front suspension can burst.

The appearance of speaking in the checkpoint indicates a failure in the gearbox. This problem is often worried about the owners of the car. In addition, the cold one has a tight course. It does not tolerate low temperatures. In winter, the probability of freezing of the handle is great. You can solve this problem, it is enough to replace the oil in the checkpoint on the synthetics.

Brake pads that are equipped with Lada Grant, low quality. Over time, they make an unpleasant creak and squeal. In addition, brake discs quickly erase.

Not quite successfully enshrined in the car the cable of the handbrake. Specialists advise to start exploiting the vehicle extremely careful. It will take time in order to get used to this feature.

The main disadvantages of Lada Granta

Lada Granta car has pros and cons. The latter are quite important, as often the cause of the vehicle fails. The main drawbacks of Lada Grant are presented in the form:

1. Rear drum brake;
2. Weak motor;
3. Lack of rear armrests and ceiling handles;
4. One airbag, which is installed for the driver;
5. Minimal set of options;
6. Lack of engine temperature sensor;
7. Creaking body;
8. Not correct operation of the climate system.

Conclusion.

The list of flaws of Lada Grant has a large enough, but many of them can be avoided. For this, it is necessary to take care of the vehicle and maintain maintenance. Replacing the details released from standing on the analog will improve the quality of the car's work and reduce the likelihood of its repeated breakage.

P.S.: Dear grant owners, if you were noticed by systematic breakdowns of any nodes, aggregates or details of Lada Granta, please let me know in the comments below. We will lead to the statistics of weak points and disadvantages of cars of this model.

Weak places and basic flaws Lada Granta Was Last Modified: October 19, 2018 by Administrator.

Lada Granta is one of the best-selling cars in the domestic market, but the design of the model is knocked out of the new corporate stylist. And the AvtoVAZ has a more expensive family "Lada Kalina", whose cars are sold unimportant. What to do in such a situation? Oddly enough, there was a way to kill two Zaitsev at once: send a name with a twentieth history on peace, combing all four body (sedan, liftback, hatchback and wagon) under one comb in relevant design and name all versions of "grants". In general, restyling did not become empty formality and brought a lot of changes.

Appearance

Naturally, the first and most notable point in the list of innovations is a design. Total for all types of body features - a new front part in "X-style", and for the write-offs, many old body elements went on: wings, bumper, radiator grille, headlights, hood. The direction indicators, as before, in the machines in the younger sets are in wings, and in the "luxury" versions - in the rearview mirrors.

The bumper acquired chromed elements passing, like "X-Ray", over fog lights. On the grid there is a huge updated fine emblem. The main block-Famram got a fashionable black substrate, which was previously characteristic only for "Kalina". Sections Three: Overall Fire, Running Index and Combined Reflector under the H4 lamp for near and far light.

The hood is still placed between the wings, and does not lie on them, like the "Vesti", but the overall geometry of the front part has changed. If a short hood was characterized before "grants", then the latter is still more vertically, and the hood, respectively, has become longer, at the same time making a rapid appearance of the machine as a whole. In addition, there are no longer nozzles of the wool truck, which moved to Zabo, closer to "janitor". Doors, roof and rear wings remained intact, for change their expensive.

But changes in the rear unequal. Former "Kalinovsky" body was clearly sentenced. They only disappeared to send to the branded badge on the door of the trunk, on the site of which the smearing inscription "Lada" is now banging. Liftback was lucky slightly more: in addition to this, it was raised by another bumper with a changed shape of a black insert at the bottom, apparently descended to be a bit visually facilitating the rear view. Against this background, the sheden feed reform looks like a beaker on the whole world - here, in addition to the bumper, the fully new trunk lid of a fairly intricate design, which was resetting and a license plate. All versions of the body received an electrical button on the lid or the trunk doors.

In the cabin

The first thing you pay attention to the cabin is the seats. At first, you notice the fabric upholstery with a pattern in the style "", when you go down, you understand that the profile of the very seat itself has changed, and the shape of the head restraint. It is still difficult to say how much more convenient was the driver, and whether it became: you need to ride in different ways and in different modes to make final conclusions.

But the adjustment of the seat in height returned from non-existence is an unequivocal benefit. In addition, it is done humanly, it is enough to shake the lever. Boil, as in the "" first generation, no need. It was a pity that she was in her time selected from "Kalina," but thank you for returned. More lateral airbags get. Eh, dreams, dreams ... But, alas, they were taken and and they don't want to share.

Before the eyes familiar to the past "" and "" steering wheel with a new emblem, followed by a combination of devices with the same layout (speedometer and tachometer with a display between them), but new in detail. Scale - with orange rim, white backlight and radial digitization. The display is tone, besides, finally, with inversion (only numbers light). The data layout also changed.

The front panel is taken from Kalina (and even before restyling, she has already managed to take his place in the top trimming "") and changed in details: the climate control panel has a new framing in execution with the climate system (which was also shared by the former "Kalina"), Slipping silver insert into the tone of the steering wheel, the cladding of the central deflectors acquired a relief "XOM", and at the pads over the "glove compartment" and the mounting block to the left of the steering wheel, a new drawing. The handles of the control of the "automatic" and the robotic box remained the same, but the lever for "mechanics" shared "". And on the sweet most important thing: the new "handbrake"! Yes, now the tram-sized experts selected a reason for discussions, because precisely because of this "grant" and "Kalina" could not be considered cars!

Technical "Stuffing"

The technique of changes is not so much, but this does not detract from their significance. For example, a terrible nightmare owner's nightmare disappeared, frightening more than Freddie Kruger, Jason Vurhiz and the Logo Television "View" - a story called "When the timing belt breaks, jamming the rollers or pump valves will meet with pistons." Do not meet. From now on, eight-flaped, and sixteenthly populated motors with a volume of 1.6 liters are equipped with new pistons with special recesses, which will not be allowed to happen to large trouble.

In a mechanical transmission - the main pair with a gear ratio of 3.9 instead of 3.7, the second gear was also made a little "shorter", bringing it to the first, alleviate the life of synchronizers and ensuring smoother overclocking. The machine cost without change, but the "robot" seems to be quite successfully taught to ride. Now he knows how to "crawl" when the brake pedal is released on the manner of classical hydromechanics, has sports and winter modes. The first, as easy to guess, provides for improved speed, possibly a bit to the detriment of comfort, and the second makes it possible to touch the second gear to avoid slipping on slippery coating.

What is in the minus?

Everything seems to be wonderful. Do you think somewhere there are catch? Is there anything perfect? You think correctly. There are no serious losses, but still something has disappeared when updating with the name "Kalina". No wonder she cost a little more expensive ...

First, these are headlights. Good light is the key to the comfort and safety of movement at night and in conditions of insufficient visibility, and "Kalina" it was, without exaggeration, magnificent, one of the best in the classroom (where most of the cars are more expensive), not least due to Separate reflectors for near and far light under the lamps H7 and H1. "Grant" has always been inferior in this indicator, and the updated model also does not make up to "Kalina".

Secondly, filling equipment. What name the family was called, from that machine configuration and took. And this means that now only in the "suite" you can get climate control, central locking with remote control, adjusting the front safety belts in height, seals on the bottom of doors, plastic facing of thresholds. Moreover, if you want to control the locks remotely and put a third-party security system, just so you do not do it, because there is a complete set of door cross-doors too? That's right, only in the top version. For the rest, please buy everything except driving. In other words, the Format "Sel-drove" now corresponds only to the most expensive modification.

Third, design. Of course, the updated family is very pretty, and there is less complaints to the refreshed stern of the sedan. But many upsets what VAZ is deprived of the identity of the models.

In general, the restyling family of Lada Granta, definitely managed. Machines are pleasant in appearance, correspond to corporate design, acquired useful modifications. The noted disadvantages did not particularly interfere with the sales of "grants", and now, with a bench in the form of two types of body, it will probably capture the first place in the Russian market for a long time. Moreover, the prices for cars rose slightly, but.