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The table indicates whether the body is galvanized Hyundai car Creta, produced from 2015 to 2019,
and the quality of processing.
Treatment Type of Method Body condition
2015 PartialCold galvanized Galvanizing result: Poor
The machine is already 4 years old. Taking into account the age and quality of zinc processing of this machine (under normal operating conditions), the first corrosion will begin in 2 years.
2016 PartialCold galvanized zinc coating Galvanizing result: Poor
The machine is already 3 years old. Taking into account the age and quality of zinc treatment of this machine (under normal operating conditions), the first corrosion will begin in 3 years.
2017 PartialCold galvanized zinc coating Galvanizing result: Poor
The machine is already 2 years old. Taking into account the age and quality of zinc processing of this machine (under normal operating conditions), the first corrosion will begin in 4 years.
2018 PartialCold galvanized zinc coating Galvanizing result: Poor
The machine is already 1 year old. Taking into account the age and quality of zinc processing of this machine (under normal operating conditions), the first corrosion will begin in 5 years.
2019 PartialCold galvanized zinc coating Galvanizing result: Poor
The machine was released this year. Given the age and quality of the zinc treatment of this machine (under normal operating conditions), the first corrosion will begin in 6 years.
If the galvanized body is damaged, corrosion destroys zinc and not steel.
Types of processing
Over the years, the process itself has changed. The car is younger - will always be galvanized better! Galvanized types
The presence of zinc particles in the soil covering the body does not affect its protection and is used by the manufacturer for the word "galvanized" in advertising materials. ... Testing Test results of vehicles rolled off the assembly line with the same damage (cross) on the lower part of the front right door. The tests were carried out in the laboratory. Conditions in a hot salt spray chamber for 40 days correspond to 5 years of normal operation. Hot Dipped Galvanized Vehicle(layer thickness 12-15 microns)
Galvanized vehicle(layer thickness 5-10 microns)

Cold galvanized car(layer thickness 10 microns)
Car with zinc metal
Vehicle without galvanizing
It's important to know- Over the years, manufacturers have improved the technology of galvanizing their cars. A younger car will always be better galvanized! - Coating thickness from 2 to 10 microns(micrometers) provides excellent protection against the occurrence and spread of corrosive attacks. - The rate of destruction of the active zinc layer, in the place of damage to the body, is from 1 to 6 microns per year... Zinc is more actively destroyed at elevated temperatures. - If the manufacturer has the term "galvanized" not added "full" this means that only the elements subject to impacts have been processed. - Pay more attention to the presence of the manufacturer's warranty on the body, rather than loud phrases about galvanizing from advertising. Additionally There was no doubt that the body of the Hyundai Creta will be galvanized. However, the news of the purchase of Russian metal alarmed some. However, in vain.

After the announcement of the imminent start of sales of the new Korean SUV, many motorists became interested in the question - is the Hyundai Creta body galvanized? Of course, few have allowed themselves to think that automobile concern with a world name will start selling cars that in a year or two will be covered with rust. Nevertheless, after the news that Russian metal would be used for production, potential buyers had a question about its quality. Will it compare to Korean steel? And which anti-corrosion treatment will the Creta body be exposed?

Korean technology

During the production of the SUV, several types of metal are used:

- galvanized steel like Hyundai Hysco;

- stainless steel products of the BNG Steel and POSCO types.

Steel from Posco is also used for the production of SUV components.

Such steel perfectly resists corrosion and withstands the effects of aggressive environments. In addition, SUV bodies are additionally processed at the factories. This is done by cataphoretic priming, for which a primer is used, developed with the use of epoxy-type components, characterized by a reduced drying temperature, as well as copolymers (vinyl and acrylic), which contain amine-group resins.

For the body of the crossover, galvanized steel is used.

The strength of Hyundai's cataphoresis priming is that, provided a thin protective layer is provided, an excellent degree of metal protection is achieved. In combination with galvanizing, the car body successfully resists not only corrosion, but also alkalis, salts and other reagents. The use of such methods allows the concern to guarantee the quality of its products.

Use of Russian metal

If confidence in Korean technologies in Russia is growing from year to year, many were wary of the news that the metal for the Hyundai Creta model will be supplied by the domestic concern Severstal. It was with this conglomerate that Hyundai Motor Manufacturing Rus signed a contract until the end of 2016, which implies the shipment of cold-rolled and galvanized metal products. The Cherepovets Metallurgical Plant will supply steel for the assembly plant. Messages from the metallurgical giant and Hyundai have repeatedly said that the products purchased from Severstal fully comply with all the standards of the Korean manufacturer.

Severstal has been selected as the Russian metal supplier.

In this case, both parties can consider the signed contract successful. After all, Severstal has received a new, solvent client, which is especially important in light of the anti-dumping investigations initiated by the EU against Russia and China. As a result of the case, duties were imposed on Russian cold-rolled steel. Hyundai also gets an excellent opportunity to reduce the cost of the SUV and increase the degree of localization.

Hyundai Manufacturing Rus.

At the moment, localization is about 50%. However, the main factor is local workers. At first glance, the plant is supplied with a wide range of products. Russian production... However, for the most part, these are either repackaged or assembled in the Russian Federation foreign components.

Russian steel

The metal supplied by Severstal is galvanized cold-rolled sheets. This coating guarantees effective corrosion protection. The amount of zinc used depends on the preferences of the customer and can reach up to 450 g / m². There is no data on the thickness of galvanizing, but it is known that the thickness of Hyundai Creta body panels ranges from 0.6 to 0.8 mm. Therefore, there is clearly no need to fear the appearance of rust on the body of the crossover.








Anodic coating of the body of Hyundai Creta

The galvanizing of the body components of the Hyundai Creta, like other cars, occurs by applying a protective coating using the anode method. It consists in the fact that automotive steel is coated with a layer of metal with a lower electrochemical potential - zinc.

An example of a galvanized metal.

The peculiarity of this method is that it not only provides mechanical insulation of steel, but also guarantees electrochemical protection. This means that even minor damage to the zinc layer, which is inevitable during the operation of Creta (chips and scratches from pebbles, branches, etc.), will not lead to corrosion. Unlike a cathode coating, which can provide protection only if the layer is intact.

Crete's body galvanizing technology

The body of this crossover is galvanized by a galvanic method. Of course, it is inferior in efficiency to thermal galvanizing, which is used for bodies of premium models, but significantly better than cold galvanizing. In general, this method is optimal for a SUV in terms of price / efficiency ratio.

Galvanic galvanizing of Hyundai Kreta occurs according to the following scheme:

  1. The Creta body is immersed in a special container filled with zinc solution.
  2. Next, the terminal (minus) is connected from the electric current source to the body.
  3. The capacity is supplied from the positive terminal.

The body is immersed in a bath with zinc solution.

Due to the electric current in the container, electrolysis occurs, which creates a zinc layer on the surface of the body. This layer reliably protects the car body, and its lower price (compared to the thermal method) allows you to keep an adequate price.

Hyundai Creta-Solaris among crossovers. Inexpensive if you compare it with competitors, the cost of the minimum configuration on the market is 800 thousand rubles, the "maximum speed" will cost 1.2 million rubles. The crossover is pleasant to look at, outwardly the model is practically no different from its fellow tribesmen, at least for the worse. Good quality of finishing materials, comfort and ergonomics are provided. However, there are several significant "BUTs" that make the exploitation korean crossover a real nightmare and a big disappointment for the new owners of Cret.

We have collected some of the most egregious facts about the fact that the crossover from Korea is far from the most the best way for purchase.

1. The body of the Hyundai Creta is rotting!


Photo taken from www.drive2.ru

The first and most terrifying fact about the Hyundai Creta is that its body is rotting literally after a few months after leaving the assembly line! What a news!

This fact was spoken about by a considerable number of motorists who managed to take possession of the crossover and what they were talking about was shocking, it was simply impossible to believe in it. Nevertheless, all the stories turned out to be true, a number of automotive publications that can be trusted wrote about this, including the information published on the magazine's website "Behind the wheel".

According to data from forums, from a quarter to a third of owners are faced with this unpleasant ailment. And it would be fine if the bottom of the car would be covered with rust, at least it could be “overwhelmed”. But traces of metal decomposition appeared on the body panels and even on the roof !!! What is it like? You can read more about the study in the article "Why the new Hyundai Creta is rusting - an investigation" Behind the wheel ""

And in order not to slander the Korean automaker, we note that according to official data, there are very few car owners who are faced with the problem of rust on the Hyundai Creta, 1 percent will not be typed.

Therefore, you should not panic. However, it is best to keep in mind that there is a similar problem.

In order not to tarnish its reputation, Hyundai will change the necessary technical processes by any means (or has already made edits) and new parties will get rid of the unpleasant ailment. But the sediment will remain ...

2. Crossover with a 1.6 liter engine, automatic and four-wheel drive has vague dynamics

The second annoying disappointment of the owners is that the Creta is bundled with 1.6 liter engine, automatic transmission and four-wheel drive does not go at all. As an example, the following review https://www.zr.ru/cars/hyundai/-/creta/reviews/

Immediately, we note that this is almost maximum complete set and it costs more than 1.1 million rubles.

According to the passport, the acceleration is 13.1 seconds, not fast, but it would seem possible to live, because we do not take a sports car. In life, everything turned out to be somewhat worse (according to the members of the forum), since acceleration from 0 to 100 km / h is not the only driving mode in real road conditions, much more often you need to quickly accelerate from 3rd, 4th gear and here everything turns out to be completely bad. A car with a 123 horsepower engine does not pull out, acceleration is sleepy and does not quite fit the realities of modern road life.

However, the disease is treated very simply, take a model with a 2.0 liter engine, overpay a little (60-100 thousand rubles), but immediately raise the safety of operation by several points up.

P.S. People differ on the dynamics of the discussions. For some, the power and traction is quite enough and they do not understand the essence of the claims of other owners. Forum club-creta.ru

3. Minimum complete set - no, no!

Hyundai differs from many in a fairly budgetary approach to pricing, but according to an old and bad tradition, if you want to buy a car as cheaply as possible, do not do it, otherwise you will go wrong. For 800 thousand rubles in the Start configuration, you will get the look of a crossover with a mono-drive on the front axle, two front airbags, steel 16 ”discs and a set of" options "that are even in Lada Kalina, such as a classic electric window unit, central locking and an immobilizer.

Tell me honestly, would you buy a completely "naked" car for 800 thousand? Well this is a crossover, whatever one may say, not a car of the brand. With all due respect to the efforts of the domestic auto industry to get out of the deep darkness. In this our fellows inspire optimism.

4. Creta is expensive

Yes, we say that the crossover is budget, read, inexpensive. But if we discard the minimum configurations and choose a more or less worthy one, it turns out that the model is better to purchase only from 1 million rubles. ONE MILLION, Karl!

What is it like? It is not expensive?! Expensive, of course.

We understand that the crossover has always been an expensive pleasure and the manufacturer cannot sell its products at a loss, but ... Creta is really an expensive model from Hyundai in the budget segment.

5. Purchase queues

At the same time, to buy Creta you will have to wait. The wait will be long. In some regions, the queue is scheduled for almost six months. This is both a merit and a failure of the manufacturer. On the one hand, the excitement is frenzied, people want to get themselves Creta, from the other point of view, it would not hurt to establish supplies or production in a larger volume. Discussion on the forum www.hyundai-creta2.ru

These were the top 5 most egregious Hyundai Creta facts. Of course, car owners will find a bunch of flaws or simply gustatory flaws in the car and forums are full of discussions of this kind. We will not list negative reviews, because in our opinion, it will already be nit-picking.

What did we want to say with this material? Does not exist ideal cars... They do not exist in nature, even super-reliable Toyota breaks down. Remember after 7 years of operation. But in pursuit of imaginary savings, it is better to slow down and think, is it worth it to go on credit or give the money accumulated over the years in order to acquire a seemingly crossover, but in fact an ordinary city car named Creta? Maybe it's better to take a brand new Solaris of the second generation, a proven bestseller of the Russian market, honed over the years of release, and not to know the troubles? Or do you still think it's worth paying extra for the Creta's off-road performance? You decide.

Those who noticed pockets of corrosion on the trunk lid appeared in early 2017. Mostly distinct signs of swelling paintwork flaunted on the outer panel of the body element. And often the trouble overtook fresh cars, which were operated for only three to four months. In the initial period, it seemed that the problem only affected the owners of cars of certain colors (white and silver), but rather quickly the rest of the palette was "noted".

Employees for the most part dealerships behaved correctly and after inspecting the cars, they made a decision to repaint a suspicious part. Although there were enough cases when negligent warranty engineers managed to find mythical traces of external mechanical impact (micro-chips) and deployed the owners. According to representatives of one of the dealer services, already in February 2017, technical centers began to send information on this problem to the manufacturer. The plant instructed to repaint or change the covers, depending on the specific case, as well as send him parts for examination.

Alas, ordinary owners were in an information vacuum, and the manufacturer did not indulge in comments, limiting himself to saying that the percentage problem cars scanty in comparison with the volume of all cars sold to this moment. As a result, passions and controversies flared up on the forums in an attempt to independently understand the issue and understand the real scale of the trouble. According to the results of questionnaires on the sites, about 25% of the owners faced with it. A logical continuation of the story was a collective electronic petition to the manufacturer. True, she did not collect as many signatures as expected.

Hyundai, including paintwork (5 years or 150,000 km), has a generally friendly dealer policy in this matter. However, the owners were very worried about the nature of the trouble with rust. If the trunk lid gave up so quickly, then what could happen in a year or two to the rest of the body ?! In addition, messages and photos of corrosion centers on the inner edges of the bodywork began to appear on the forums. Swelling of the paintwork appeared in the rolling zones of the cover panels and on the ribs of the niches under the lanterns. The reviews of some owners did not add optimism, saying that rust reappeared after repainting the lid and even after replacing it.

The result of an internal study of the issue was the publication in May of this year of a technical bulletin prepared by the manufacturer. The document prescribes a mandatory inspection of cars produced in the period from July 26 to December 15, 2016, which come to the service for any work. If corrosion is found in the areas described above, the dealer should repair (repaint) or replace the cover. The issue is resolved on a case-by-case basis after rust removal. If its traces cannot be completely removed, then the body element must be replaced. Unfortunately, there is no information in the bulletin about the reasons for the defect and changes in production.

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Alas, the manufacturer did not give any comments on the request of the Za Rulem editors about the details of the rust problem. Therefore, it remains only to make assumptions, comparing the information received from some dealers and on the owners' forums, as well as the experience of operating the Cret in our fleet.

Judging by the fact that the service bulletin applies to machines manufactured before December 15, 2016, it is hoped that the causes of the defect have been found and changes have been made to the technological chain on the conveyor. At least there is no information yet on similar problems on 2017 cars. The manufacturer did not want to reveal the secret, and the dealership employees are armed with only assumptions about the causes of such a strange problem.

The real scale is also unclear. Questionnaires on two large forums showed that about 25% of owners encountered rust. However, only 850 people took part in these polls. The collective electronic petition has not collected so much - to date, only 427 signatures. For understanding, almost 22,000 Cret were sold in 2016. Some dealers also speak about the low percentage of "sick" cars detected during the period of validity of the service bulletin. That is, on paper, owners of cars manufactured before December 15, 2016, have few chances to see rust on the trunk lid, but still no one is immune from this.

In the course of disputes about the nature of rust, a curious fact surfaced - an uneven and in some places too small thickness of the layer. There are videos on the Internet where devices show only 80 microns on the edges of the body panels, as if there is no varnish. At the same time, the participants in the video confirm on the calibrated probes that the thickness gauge is calibrated correctly.

The thickness of the paintwork has been tested on several machines. We failed to see examples with obscenely low 80 microns, but thin and too heterogeneous places were found. The experiment involved two Cretas from our fleet (manufactured in 2016) and several new cars (2017), which were still waiting for buyers. In general, all participants with different body colors showed similar results.

Indeed, the coating layer on the edges of the body panels is thin (100-110 microns), but these are not criminal values. For the most part, the difference in thickness across the vehicle ranges from 120 to 150 microns, which is normal for a new car with factory paint. However, there are examples of very significant discrepancies on one body element. The brightest of these is the ribs of the front doors. Under the mirrors, the calibrated instrument reads about 160 microns, and above the handle - 120 microns. Strange numbers, considering that it is robotized in all modern factories. Alas, these facts were left without comment from the manufacturer.

Many auto giants have distinguished themselves with "rusty" problems. Some had well-known weak spots on the trunk lid - niches under the plastic covers. After a couple of years of operation, rust appeared in these places. This was the problem of the second generation and the first Mazda CX-9. Toyota stood out more vividly with rusting hoods on fresh cars. In the first case, when the owner complained during the warranty period and there were no traces of external influence, the part was repainted, and in the second, the manufacturer, known for its policy of recall campaigns, organized a whole service action to correct the defect on the sold machines.

Given the many years of experience of similar ones, it is unlikely that the problems with the trunk lid on Cretach indicate misses throughout the body. However, Koreans could have shown more attention to the concerns of the owners and lift the veil of secrecy. Sooner or later, all auto giants are mistaken, especially for cars of the first years of production. No one has any suspicions or questions when a manufacturer admits some mistakes and announces adjustments to the production cycle, not forgetting about the warranty obligations to the owners of potentially "sick" machines. But the information vacuum only cultivates fears and generates negativity.

Photo: Stas Panin and club-creta.ru

Why are the new Hyundai Creta rusting - an investigation by "Behind the wheel" Why do they rust new hyundai Creta - Investigation "Behind the Wheel"

Hyundai Creta owners began to complain about the quality of the metal and paintwork. Most often, on cars not older than 4 months, the fifth door begins to rust.

Dealers traditionally, as best they can, try to avoid warranty repair, but it does not work very often.

According to the Wordstat service: the problem appeared in December 2016 and is growing steadily in terms of the number of requests to Yandex.

Here is a selection of messages from Crete owners who noticed this issue:

Guys, a problem appeared, two dots formed on the fifth door, at first I thought the dirt tried to wipe them off and nothing, as a result, rust. I'll post a photo, wow, the car is 4 months old.

I do not believe that this could have been allowed ...

I'll wait for spring, and then we'll see. If nothing else pops out with a sticker, which one I will close. Manufactured September 2016, acquired September 23, 2016.

I have the same. Two red spots appeared on the trunk lid (next to the brake light) for 4 months. Under the guarantee, everything was done without question. At first I was upset, like new car... apparently I'm not the only one.

Expectedly, the main concentration of the owners of Crete, victims of rust, is on the forum of the same name. Participants have already created a petition. There are not many subscribers yet. It is still too early to talk about a mass problem, but the trend is noticeable.

Many photos posted on the forum show not the highest quality work of Hyundai craftsmen with metal body parts.

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