1 6 106 liters. Characteristic malfunctions of Lada Vesta engines. Minuses and pluses of the motor

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All three power units intended for Lada Vesta are produced long enough. Consequently, their weak spot is known, which will help the owners of the new model will prepare for possible problems.

It is noticeable that specialists of the vase, working on the new sedan Lada Vesta, set out to ensure maximum reliability and fragility of the model. That is why motors familiar to other alliance cars are in the line of power units. Of course, they have weak spotsBut all the "children's diseases" have long been defeated and according to modern standards, these motors are considered very reliable.

Lada Vesta - the exit of this sedan to the market is awaiting very many.

What motors are put on Lada Vesta?

For the novelty there were three power units, two of which are domestic, and one imported:

  1. VAZ 21116 - 1.6 liters, 8 valves, 87 liters. from.;
  2. VAZ 21127 - 1.6 liters, 16 valves, 106 liters. from.;
  3. RENAULT-NISSAN HR16DE-H4M - 1.6 liters, 16 valves, 114 liters. from.

Problems with Motor VAZ 21116

This is a modified power unit of the type of VAZ 21114. The refinement poured into the installation of a facilitated 39% SPG from the company Federal Mogul. The engine is good in that when the timing belt is cut, the valve does not oppress. However, when signs of malfunction are found, it is better not to delay and immediately go to a hundred.

VAZ 21116 - the most affordable engine under the hood of Vests.

Features Engine design

In this power unit there is a number distinctive features:

- the need to periodic valve adjustments;

Valve adjustment for this motor is required.

frequent replacement oil filter;

- fast wear of the cooling system components;

- leak oils through poor-quality seal valve cover;

Oil leakage is another possible problem.

- Frequent formation of brackets on the receiving exhaust pipe - instead of brass nuts applied steel.

Characteristic malfunctions

Trojection and uneven work - to detect the reason, the compression in the cylinders is required. If in one of them it is noticeably different, it means that the valve rushed. With a minor difference in the indicators, the origins of the problem in the laying are either required to simply adjust the valve. If everything is fine with compression, the reason is to search in the ignition module.

Differs in compression - one of the reasons for uneven work.

Floating turnover - usually a similar problem occurs on new machines. To eliminate it, you should go to the service center, where it is liquidated under warranty. Otherwise, it is necessary to inspect a vacuum, position sensor throttle valve and idling regulator.

Due to the throttle position sensor, the engine turnover can float.

The engine does not heat up to the determined temperature level - the case in the thermostat. In addition, even new components often fail. Consequently, the breakage can be repeated shortly after the replacement.

Thermostat is one of the components that often require replacement.

The noises and knock in the engine - usually the whole thing in the valves that you want to adjust. If the muffled metal buzz is heard, increasing when the accelerator pedal is pressed, the connecting rod bearings or the crankshaft bearings were caught. Such a problem is solved only in the service. The head of the pistons in the cylinders is not excluded. This is also a reason for a visit to the dealer for a hundred.

If you have serious problems, a visit to the car service vase is better not to postpone.

Problems with Motor VAZ 21127

The VAZ 21127 engine is a bit modified and modified by the power unit VAZ 21126. The differences are concluded in installed system Inlet, equipped with a resonant chamber with the possibility of adjusting its volume due to the controlled dampers.

Engine VAZ 21127 - modernized VAZ 21126.

Instead of DMRV, designers installed DDA + DTV, which eliminated the problem with floating turnover. Like the predecessor, this engine also turns the valve when the timing belt is cut.

Features

Owners of Lada Vesta must be considered possible problemsAnd also know the options for their solutions:

  1. Unstable work and the impossibility of launch - may be provoked by violations in the operation of the timing, the occurrence of fuel pressure, air seats, the throttle breakdown, as well as a malfunction of some sensors.
  2. Power loss - the cause becomes the burned gasket, resulting in a compression in cylinders, as well as component wear (triurn of pistons, wear of rings and cylinders). However, owners new Vesta Such problems are not threatened (at least at the first time).
  3. The range of valve - this problem can be solved by replacing the regular pistons to such a brave type.

The bent valves are one of the most serious breakdowns of this Vesta motor.

Characteristic malfunctions

They are similar to those who are characterized by Motor VAZ 21126.

Veste engine VAZ 21127 can start tall. In this case, the nozzles will be flushing. If this procedure does not help, pay attention to the ignition coils, candles and measure compression. However, it is best to immediately go to a hundred.

When the power unit of the Vesti is to help can wash the nozzles.

It is also possible to warm up operating temperature. This is usually manifested with a faulty thermostat.

Noises and knocks in the motor can occur due to hydrocompensators, as well as problems with indigenous and connecting rod bearings or pistons. If vibration occurs in the Vesti motor, it is worth writing nozzles and high-voltage wires.

Noise B. this engine may arise due to problems with hydrocomathers.

RENAULT-NISSAN HR16DE-H4M

The release of this power unit was launched in 2006. In general, the motor, which is still the most powerful in the Vesti line (yield of the 1.8-liter unit in question), is considered very reliable and able to learn to "Kapitalki" about 250,000 km.

The RENAULT-NISSAN HR16DE-H4M motor is the most powerful in the West Line.

Focused on AI-95, but easily "digest" and 92nd. In addition, a chain is applied in its GDM system, so that it is not necessary to worry about her stretching to worry about the owners of Vesta.

The timing chain in the Renault-Nissan HR16DE-H4M motor is safer than a belt.

Characteristic malfunctions

Their little:

Motor Vesti can stall - the reason in the breakage of the ignition block relay. And Nissan has already responded to the car because of this. In this case, you will have to buy a new relay for Vesta.

One of frequent faults Motor Vesta Renault-Nissan HR16DE-H4M - the failure of the relay.

Whistle is characteristic of Nissan's many motors. In this case, Vesti can whistle the generator belt, which will need to tighten or replace.

A suspension or replacement of the generator belt is a sure way to get rid of the Renault-Nissan HR16DE-H4M motor whistle.

Vibrations - to eliminate this phenomenon, it is usually enough to change the right airbag of the motor.

Almost always the vibration of the engine arise due to the right pillow.

Furious ring of receiving pipe - the car starts working louder. It is necessary to replace the gasket.

As can be seen, Lada Vesta will be equipped with proven power units. All their weaknesses have long been known for experience on other models. However, the most fragile promises to become top, 114-strong HR16DE-H4M.

Priora 21127 engine has the following specifications:

PARAMETERVALUE
Number of cylinders4
Volume, L.1.596
Piston stroke, mm75.6
Compression ratio11
Number of valves on the cylinder4
Cylinder block materialHigh-strength cast iron
Supply systeminjector
System of gas distributionDohc.
The order of the cylinders1-3-4-2
Rated engine power78 kW (106.0 l. P.) / 5800 rpm
Maximum torque148 N · m / 4000 rpm
Supply systemDistributed injection with electronic control
MIN. octane number Gasoline used95
Recommended motor oilSynthetic
5W-30.
5W-40
10W-30
10W-40
15W-40.
Oil volume in lubrication system3.5 L.
Number of oil when replacing3-3.2 L.
Engine mass included, kg116
Replacing the oil is carried out, km10000

Motor is installed on Lada Priora, Lada Kalina. 2 and Lada Granta.

Description

The new VAZ 21127 engine is based on gasoline motor , the main engine priors, and is practically no different from him.

Wherein new engine Priors has some features:

  • The motor is equipped with an inlet regulation system, due to which it was possible to increase its power from 98 to 106 horse power. With an engine 106 liters, according to the reviews of the owners, overtaking became more calm.
  • At the same time, a torque of up to 148 nm increased slightly. Poster on average engine speeds of 127 amounted to 10 nm, which affected dynamic characteristics Motor.
  • New calibrations received a motor control controller, and instead of a sensor mass flow The air is used DDA (absolute pressure sensor.) As a result of a modification, the VAZ 21127 engine received more advanced parts.

Modifications

Modification of the engine VAZ 21127 is power point 21129 series. This unit establishes the control unit, calculated by the EURO-5 parameters, while it is adapted to the Renault gear gearbox.

This power unit is installed on Vesta and Xray cars of the Volga Auto Plant.

Design

  • Four-stroke 127 Engine Lada Priora has an inline layout of cylinders and a distributed type injection system; The camshaft is located at the top of the motor.
  • Cooling system of closed versions with a forced type of cooler circulation.
  • The combined type lubrication system is supplied to rubbing surfaces with pressure and oil spraying method.
  • The high-strength cast iron cylinder block is made by casting, and the wall processing is made in accordance with Federal Mogul technology. Cylinder count starts on the side of the crankshaft drive pulley.

Service

The power unit should take periodic service after 10 thousand mileage kilometers. For heavy conditions Operating oil replacement and filters should be carried out after 7.5 thousand.

When replacing the oil filter, it is worth paying attention to the leakage of oil through the valve cover seals. This malfunction is due to the low quality of the sealing gasket, which leads to contamination of cooling surfaces and overheating of the motor.

A feature of the maintenance of this motor is the periodic replacement of valve hydraulic components.

When operating a car with this motor, it should control its temperature mode - 95-98 degrees Celsius, otherwise the elements of the cooling system are very quickly wear. The reason for this is usually a thermostat that is a weak element in this system.

Removal exhaust pipe It should be carried out with extreme caution, instead of copper nuts, the manufacturer has installed steel, when zeroing, you can break the mounting brackets. When conducting this type of work, these nuts are better immediately replaced with copper.

The most terrible feature of this engine is that when the engine fails the timing valve, leading to expensive repair. The tension and replacement of the timing belt is better to spend in the service. In the engine Lada Priora 106 liters. p., According to the owners, it is necessary to pour high-quality oil, otherwise the valve hydraulic components are very quickly fail.

The motor is also noted by knocks in the elements of the curve mechanism, indigenous and connecting rod bearings, and the engine troit.

Fault

Despite various upgrades, the engine on the VAZ 21127 has retained all the faults of its predecessor, the main of which are shown in the table:

FaultCAUSE
Engine starts troopSigning nozzles.
Faults of ignition coils.
Reduced compression.
Overheating of the cooling systemThermostat faults.
The formation of mud coats as a result of leaking oil.
Knocks and noises in the top of the engineFaults of valve hydraulic components
Knocks at the bottom of the engineWear indigenous bearings
Knocks in the middle part of the motorFaults of connecting rod bearings and piston finger
Cylinder head flapSkipping belt transmission through the gear tooth
Interruptions in work and launch problemsViolations in the work of the timing.
Faults in the fuel pressure system.
Air surface.
Cleaning the throttle.
Fault sensors.
Reduced powerThe start of the GROM head laying.
Traveling pistons, wear rings and cylinders.

Tuning

Due to the fact that the engine design did not fundamentally changed, the engine tuning priors is made by the same methods as at 126 motor. The engine tuning the engine can be made in several ways:

  1. Most. simple way Make a chip tuning engine priors, it needs to be firmware of the control unit. Special changes in the technical characteristics of the engine chip tuning will not make, the increase will be only about 5 liters. from.
  2. For a minor increase in dynamic indicators, it is enough to simply change the exhaust with the pipe diameter of 51 m and spider 4-2-1 and change the flap with a size of 54 mm. These changes will enhance the power of the motor for 10-15 horsepower and increase the car dynamics.
  3. For more serious tuning, it will be necessary to install the shafts of Soolnikov 8.9 with phase 280. This change will increase overclocking to hundreds in 9 seconds.
  4. The use of shafts 9.15 with a phase 316 will also significantly increase the dynamics when starting in urban environments, but for this you have to clean the channels for the valve 31 mm / 27 mm and change the nozzles to more productive. For these purposes, Bosch 431 360ss and Bosch 440SS are well suited.

The use of such changes will increase the power of the motor at 30-40 horses. If these measures are insufficient, the residue replacement will be required, installing the compressor or motor turbine.


Engine 21127 priors

Engine VAZ 21127 Characteristics

Years of release - (2013 - our days)
Cylinder block material - cast iron
Power system - Injector
Type - inline
Number of cylinders - 4
Valves on the cylinder - 4
Piston stroke - 75.6mm
Cylinder diameter - 82mm
Compression ratio - 11
Motor volume - 1596 cm. Cube.
Power - 106 hp / 5800 Ob.min.
Torque - 148nm / 4000 Ob.min
Fuel - AI95
Fuel consumption - city - | Route - | mixed 7 l / 100 km
Engine weight VAZ 21127 -115 kg
Geometric engine size 21127 (DHSHV), mm -
Oil consumption 21127 Priora - 50g / 1000km
Oil in engine Lada Priora 21127:
5W-30.
5W-40
10W-40
15W40.
How many oil in 127 engine priors: 3,5l.
When replacing pour 3-3.2l.

Resource 21127:
1. According to the plant - 200 thousand km
2. In practice - 200 thousand km

Tuning
Potential - 400+ hp
Without loss of resource - 120 hp

Engine is installed on:
Lada Priora
Lada Kalina 2.
Lada Granta

Malfunctions and repair of a new engine 21127 prior

Engine VAZ 21127 1.6 liters. 106 hp New Vazovsky motor, continuation of the engine prior 21126 and based on the same modified block. Injector engines in line 4-cylinder with upper arrangement distributional shaftsThe gas distribution mechanism has a belt drive. The feature of the engine 127 is that the intake system with a resonant chamber with an adjustable volume was installed: controlled valves reduce or increase its volume depending on the number of revolutions per minute. The volume of the chamber varies from greater to the smaller, and the minimum volume value is used in 3500 rpm mode. In addition, now instead of DMRV, Dad + DTV is installed, together with DMRV, the problem of floating turns left, on this distinction 126 and 127 of the motor ends.
At the same time, all the same engine 21127 priors turns the valve, the rest of the problems remained the same, noises, knocks, troops ... The causes of their generating, are described in the article about 126 engines.
Feels and reviews, the motor began to go from the bottom of seven days of the usual 126 motor, on top of the situation the same, the changes are minor, but tangible.

Since 2015, a restyled version of this motor began, which was named 21129 or the people are more known as Vesta engine.

Tuning Engine Priora 21127

A common engine design remained the same, all those principles that we used on 126 ohm engine, apply here. For a small power absorption, for quick movement in the city, say, it is enough to install exhaust on a 51 mm pipe with a spider 4-2-1, the receiver will leave our two-stage factory, buy a flap of 54 mm, it will give us about 115-120 hp. By adding urban shafts of Soilnikov 8.9 Phase 280, we will go to 100 for 9 seconds, approximately. These shafts are not particularly affected by the bottom, and with the new receiver will not cause inconvenience, besides high-quality, durable, etc. You can put more evil trees of solids 9.15 phase 316, but under them you need to clean the intake and exhaust channels on the valve 31 mm / 27 mm, remove the steps of the valve saddle, replace the nozzles to the more productive such as Bosch 431 360s or 440s with a margin. Thus, we will achieve power for 150 hp

Compressor and Tubin at 21127 Priora Motor

If these methods are not enough, it means that the motor is either well inflated or unwind in heaven. In one way or another, we need to change the receiver, which means the difference between the revision of 127 and 126 of the motor is erased. How to install a compressor on 21127 or turbine, as well as rebuild evil atmosphere read.

Engine VAZ-21127 - One of the recent developments of Volzhsky car factory. Today we will tell about its main differences from other VAZ engines, as well as share their impressions from the trip by car with this engine.

Engine VAZ-21127 Created on the basis of the "Prioror" 16-valve engineVAZ-21126.However, it has the following differences from him:

  • maximum power increased to 106 hp (VAZ-21126 - 98 hp)
  • torque grew from 145 to 148 nm
  • instead of a mass flow sensor (DMRV), an absolute pressure sensor (DDD) and air temperature sensor (DTV) are installed

Engine characteristics VAZ - 21127

Working volume - 1596 cc.

Maximum power - 78/5800 kW / ob. Min.

Maximum torque - 148/4000 Nm / Ob.min.

Maximum engine power - 106 hp

Changes in the engine VAZ-21127

The main change in the engine VAZ-21127. - The appearance of an adjustable air intake system.

It is a new receiver in which controlled valves are installed, regulating its volume depending on the engine speed. On the low revolutions The air into the engine comes along the long channel, on high - shortly, which should improve the elasticity of the engine. In fact, it is the usual inertigreed system.

Impressions from the engineVAZ-21127.

For the first time Engine VAZ-21127 Began to establish in the spring of 2013. At the moment it is installed on Cabin, grant and prior cars.

We tested this engine paired with mechanical box gears on new Lada Kalina, as well as robotic transmission on Lada Priora.

What can be said about this engine? Indeed, the engine more willingly accelerates the car. This is especially noticeable on low revs, up to 2.5 thousand where the 98-strong engine accelerates enough sluggish, 106-strong allows you to maintain a good pace of overclocking. But at high speeds, over 4 thousand, the differences are no longer so sensible.

By the way, after refusing the DMRV, the problem of floating revolutions on idlingWith which many owners of domestic cars suffered.

Pros and cons of the engine VAZ-21127

Summarizing the foregoing, lay out the main advantages and cons of this engine.

Pros:

  • improved engine elasticity
  • solving the problem of floating speed at idle

Minuses:

  • The cost of transport tax increases sharply, because Engine more powerful 100 hp
  • When the timing belt is cut, the engine is stillgnet valves
  • The car with this engine is more expensive

At the end I would like to say that we definitely liked the car's behavior with this engine. Despite the slight increase in power, it is much more interesting to go with it than with a 98-strong, especially in a pair with mechanics. Is it worth overpaying for the car with such an engine and pay elevated transport tax - It is already possible to solve you.

Restyling Lada Priora received a new engine With a capacity of 106 hp More precisely, it is an upgraded power unit that was pretended before. In more detail about the new power unit Lada Priora. We read further.


So, gasoline 16 valve 4 cylinder motor VAZ-21126.which was installed on the priors previously did not give out more than 98 hp. But as it turned out, resources to increase the capacity were found, and as a result of some modifications, the motor, which now has an index VAZ-21127., quietly gives 106 horsepower, and according to unofficial data, even a little more. Accordingly, the torque increased.

How it was possible to increase the power of the power unit for the new Lada of Priora, while even slightly reduce the fuel consumption. The answer is simple, the designers applied a new inlet system. With low engine speed, air flow comes through longer inlet channels, and with increasing revolutions, on the contrary - short. That is, the composition of the fuel should be mixed with the decorated to the enriched and vice versa. This allowed to increase power in almost all ranges of work. engine Lada. Priora. This system is called dynamic or passive superior, that is, without the use of a traditional turbine.

As for the GHM drive mechanism, all motors prior is a belt. As for the new engine VAZ-21127 increased power, as in the case of the PRATERATEL VAZ-21126, when the timing belt is broken valve bent Without options. As a result, quite expensive repairs. Characteristics of both power aggregates Lada Priora, just below.

Engine characteristics VAZ-21126 (98 hp)

  • Working volume - 1596 cm3
  • Power hp / kW - 98/72 at 5,600 revolutions per minute
  • Torque - 145 nm at 4000 revolutions per minute
  • Fuel consumption in a mixed cycle - 6.9 liters

Engine characteristics VAZ-21127 (106 hp)

  • Working volume - 1596 cm3
  • Number of cylinders / valves - 4/16
  • Power hp / kW - 106/78 at 5800 revolutions per minute
  • Torque - 148 nm at 4,200 revolutions per minute
  • Maximum speed - 183 kilometers per hour
  • Acceleration until the first hundred - 11.5 seconds
  • Fuel consumption in a mixed cycle - 6.8 liters

As a box with these motors, 5-speed mechanics are still offered. The long-awaited automaton may appear by the fall of 2014. At the same time, the manufacturer promises not just a hydrotransformer that stands on Kalina and grant, but advanced robotic box. Let's hope that the prior with automatic transmission will not make himself wait.

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