Who did not miss the ambulance. If you did not miss ambulance: fine and rules. What is and what will be with punishment for auto
What do the experts think about new bills
Nobody is experiencing rainbow expectations. Former member of the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation, Dmitry Chugunov, I am sure that you need to first introduce a progressive system of fines, but then deprive rights.
Chairman of the independent trade union of the medical workers "Feldsher.Ru" Dmitry Belyakov believes that it is necessary to prove that an offense was committed. He is supported by the first deputy chairman of the State Duma Committee on Gosstroitelse Vyacheslav Lysakov: "The current norm does not work for one simple reason: to deprive the management rights of the court can only if the offense is fixed alive, that is, the inspector stopped on the driver's road. In practice, this is done very difficult. Photo and video confixation for these purposes is not used in the current form, as you need to photograph the driver's face. The owner of the car can not be attracted. "
And if the patient died, while the ambulance went, then it was necessary to prove that the driver was involved in death, the driver was involved. After all, the occurrence of death could not be correlated at the speed of the arrival of the ambulance carriage.
And yet, if the law is accepted, there is few people sit in prison. Maybe then on the roads will be less heartless drivers and candid gamps?
Notify your friends-motorists.
The size of the traffic police fine in 2018 for failure to provide advantage of the ambulance car is 500 rubles or deprivation of the right to manage from 1 to 3 months.
When should the driver give way to an ambulance road?
Getting a priority in the movement of the ambulance car, as well as other cars equipped with blue specialignals, is described in paragraph 3.1 of the Rules road.
For advantage over other participants in movement drivers of such vehicles should include flashlight light blue and special beep. To take advantage of the priority, they can only make sure that they are inferior to the road.
Please note that both the conditions described must be completed for priority. The beep must be special. If the ambulance car gives the usual monotony signal advantage in motion it does not.
Among the mandatory conditions there is no requirement that a special colorographic scheme is applied by car.
To obtain a fine traffic police for ambulance car, blue beacons must be included on the car and special sound signal.
How to properly give the car ambulance
The priority procedure for emergency is described in paragraph 3.2 of the Rules.
When the vehicle is approaching with the gluing light bay and special sound signal Drivers are obliged to give way to ensuring the unimpeded passage of the specified vehicle.
Legal conflict on video example
Requirements for the free passage of ambulance cars are set out within the framework of the terms "advantage" and "give way to the road".
"The advantage (priority)" is the right to the priority movement in the intended direction towards other participants in the movement.
"To give way to the road (not to create interference)" - the requirement that means that the road participant should not start, renew or continue to move, carry out any maneuver, if it can force other participants in the movement with respect to it, change the direction Movement or speed.
That is, the driver should act only and in any way differently. The use of these terms is justified when crossing the trajectories, at intersections, when turning, rebuilding and other maneuvers. But the rules did not allocate the case of a car approaching with special signals from behind. And this is the most frequent case, especially when moving through a plug.
Drivers, in the case of ambulance approximation, should also carry out the requirement to "give way to the road", namely, do not continue to move and maneuver, click on the brake and stop.
Rules of road traffic are established direct prohibition of further movement and maneuvering. On the other hand, drivers are subject to an indefinite requirement of a unimpeded passage. Driver de-Yura performing the requirement to give way to the road, understands that it provides unhindered passage. It is for this that it is presented:
... give way to the road to ensure unobstructed passage.
There are no options for reasoning. The requirement to "give way to the road" is defined. How his execution will happen in practice everyone is understandable. Ambulance will not be able to drive.
In practice, no one will never blame the driver and fined for impassive ambulance if the driver emlowers, de Jura, disturbing traffic rules and, on the contrary, can impose a fine if the driver fully fulfills the requirements of the rules and stop.
In the case of ambulance and other cars, the special services will certainly need to understand such ambiguity in traffic rules and, if possible, provide passage.
A small indentation from the theme. On the other hand, if it is rudely speaking "black Mercedes" with flaws of unknown origin and a "molding", but a huge administrative resource, you can simply stop in the band and do not touch the requirements completely by fulfilling the requirements. However, the "game" will have to continue to the end. It is prohibited to resume and continue the movement, and the violation of this ban is facing the fine, the truth is much smaller.
Check video with ambulance, in South Korea. Drivers instantly freed pass through the traffic jam in a close tunnel.
Such actions violate the rules of the RF traffic rules.
The following video served as a reason for discussing the tightening of responsibility in case of failure to provide ambulance advantage, but the driver's violations are not. He stands still and does not continue to move, strictly following the rules and fulfilling the requirement to "give way to the road." The plot of the Ren-TV channel.
Let's hope that such ambiguity in the rules will be eliminated, in the light of the upcoming increments of fines for impassive ambulance.
The law establishes a fine for the non-ambulance car.
Fine for failure to comply with the requirement to give way to ambulance is established by part 3 of Article 12.17.
2. Ensuring the advantages in motion by a vehicle having special color diagrams, inscriptions and designations, with simultaneously included flashlight light and a special sound signal.
entails the imposition of an administrative fine in the amount of five hundred rubles or deprivation of the right to manage vehicles for a period of one to three months.
With the lack of special color schemes on the vehicle, part 1 of the same article 12.17
1. Ensuring the advantages in motion by the route vehicle, as well as the vehicle with a simultaneously included flashlight light and a special sound signal -
entails warning or imposition of an administrative fine in the amount of five hundred rubles.
We note the penalty only for failure to provide advantage, that is, for failure to comply with the requirement , for the disappointment of unhindered passage of the fine.
Any claims from the representatives of "Black Mercedes" with flames are threatened with a fine for a maximum of 500 rubles.
What changes in traffic police fines are expected, for not providing advantage of the ambulance?
The article has an emphasis on ambulance cars, since in 2017 there was a wide publicity with the transport of this service. Everything described above also applies to other parts of special services - (police, firefighters, Ministry of Emergency Situations and others.)
Of latest news According to RBC, there is a statement by the Minister of Health of Russia, on the preparation of their department of the draft law on establishing a fine of 30,000 rubles.
In the State Duma, after April 14, 2017, the draft law No. 88389-7 will be considered, where for the non-vulture of cars without colorographic schemes, the fine is set from 500 to 1500 rubles, with the schemes of 1500 rubles or deprivation of rights from 6 months to 1 year.
Social School and State Duma
Discussions of how miss ambulance In Russia, are among the hottest. Someone proposes to judge the mines in a criminal article for murder if their act led to tragedy and doctors did not have time to help a sick or affected accident.
Someone is trying to find excuses, by tradition accusing medicine, - allegedly health workers do not go for any challenges, but only enjoy the official position in order to move through the loaded roads without any problems.
And someone does not get tired to demonstrate how one or another driver did not miss the ambulance in the video, placing rollers from registrars or smartphones in publics and personal pages. Frames, you need to confess, blatants - drivers are not inferior to the road not because of the inability to do it, but intentionally, specially slowing down before the carriage ambulance or even "blocking" it right on the road to jump out of the car and pounce on the header, sitting driving machines with flashing lights.
As long as passions are glowing, the State Duma will not reach hands to consider the bill, which equates the Ham's behavior in relation to transport with special signals (emergency, fire, emergency, etc.) to driving a car in a state of alcohol intoxication - the most serious crime on the road.
Among the proposals of the tightening of punishment for car cars:
thousands of times raise fines;
for life to deprive;
to judge the criminal article for the murder, if a person died due to the late seeding.
What is and what will happen to the punishment for auto girls?
The Russian Ministry of Health insists: did not miss ambulance - a fine of 30 thousand rubles or deprivation of rights for a year and a half.
According to the law, the punishment for those who did not miss ambulance - the penalty in 2017 is only 500 rubles (Part 2, Article 12.17 of the Administrative Code). The violator can also deprive the right to control vehicle Maximum for 3 months.
According to the Minister of Health of Veronica Skvortsova, such behavior is not a sign of today. Hama was always and "such disgraces" took place in her practice back in 1993, when she worked in the intensive care of the first country hospital. Just today, thanks to social networks and the Internet, they began to speak more often and larger.
If the bill is finally adopted, then it will be enough to evof the offense:
remove the state number on the smartphone and car car brand;
send information online in the traffic police.
On a note! The need to increase responsibility began to discuss not yesterday. Back in 2015, the Duma Committee on Transport offered to raise a fine to 10 thousand rubles, but "WHO remained there now."
The use of force for the driver of the emergency
In addition to "blocking", some drivers are trying to "prove" their right to be in ambulance. Typically, the situation is allowed by other road users, helping the seamless sector.
After such cases, the proposal sounds to equip specialists of armed guards, but, according to the Minister of Health, such protection is not good and too expensive.
What do the rules of the road?
Moving an ambulance. The rules obligate and this is fixed in the third section of the traffic rules. In particular, it says that seeing the car with blue "flashers" and having heard the warning "chambling", the driver:
must give way to the road to ensure the unobstructed passage of special transport;
when approaching special transport to reduce speed;
do not make overtaking urgent fire truck etc.
In turn, for the benefits of specialized drivers should include flashlights Blue and special signals. To take advantage of the priority, they can only make sure that they are inferior to the road.
How to miss urgent in Europe
A mirror reflection of how Russian drivers behave on the roads, rollers are becoming skilled as ambulance in Europe. For example, in one of the German cities for hurrying to the place DTP machines Create an absolutely free corridor in the center of the road. Also occur in other European cities for special transport with glilateral beacons included.
Special transport does not pay attention to the road markings and moves freely in front of quickly intermittent to the left and right cars. And even if the road is strongly loaded, the ambulance is "leaving" between the rows, because other participants in the movement find the opportunity to remove their car from the way.
On a note! Another version of the movement of special transport in Europe is special lines for a taxi. Travel on them for Specmashin in emergency cases is resolved by the rules.
And in conclusion, another common opinion from social networks: it is not necessary to increase non-fines, but the culture, then no one will come to "lock" on the road, which rushes to save lives. And, probably, you will not have to break your head, what a fine, if you didn't miss ambulance, it will be effective and will help change the depressing situation.
The new law on the protection of the life and health of patients and medical workers was prepared by a group of deputies led by Irina Yarova. The question of his need was sharply stood at the beginning of the year after: the path of ambulance brigade blocked the stubborn motorist, because of which the doctors could not get to the patient, and he died.
The lawmakers were provided for responsibility, including such serious effects of stubbornness and propose to supplement the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 124 1 "Preventing Medical Aid". If the interference led to a patient's harm to the health of moderate gravity, then the creator of interference faces a fine of up to 40 thousand rubles, or mandatory work for up to 360 hours, or correctional work for a period of up to one year, or arrest for up to 4 months.
In the event that the patient died or his health is gravily harmful, the creator of interference is shining forced work for up to 4 years or imprisonment for up to 4 years. The guilty may also be deprived of the right to occupy certain positions or engage in certain activities for up to 3 years.
A new article (6.2 1) with the same name will appear in the Administrative Code of the Russian Federation, it provides for the responsibility for the fact of preventing legitimate activities of the medical worker: a fine of 4,000 to 5,000 rubles or administrative arrest for up to 15 days. Article 12.17 will appear in paragraph 3, which states that if the driver did not give way to the ambulance and, because of this, did not have time to assist the patient in time, then the penalty in the amount of 30 thousand rubles and deprivation of rights from 1 threatens , 5 to 2 years.
In the report on the official website of the State Duma, in addition, the intention of deputies is marked to increase criminal liability for the threat of murder and for causing harm to health against persons under the performance of official duties. This is how Irina Yarova comments:
"We increase this responsibility, first of all, in order for everyone to understand that any violent action against the doctor, including the causing of easy harm to health and the fact of the murder, will bear a serious increased criminal liability: to threaten the murder - to 5 years of imprisonment, for causing easy harm to health - up to 2 years in prison. "
It is possible that the second and third reading new laws will somehow change, but their total vector is already clear and is not subject to doubt.
- This week it became known that the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the State Duma deputies plans to violate traffic rules. The initiative proceeded from the United Russia, the one who was the first in January of this year offered to plant drivers in prison for impassive soon.
The opposition to the absurdity between Togliatti driver Viktor Allino and local authorities can safely resolve in favor of common sense. The traffic police department of the Samara region is ready to cancel the penalty of the shofera, which violated the most significant rule of road traffic in an attempt to give way to an ambulance car.
The incident occurred in Togliatti, at the intersection of Frunze Street and Marshal Zhukov Street. Victor, as applies to the responsible driver, stopped before pedestrian crossingWhen a red light caught fire on the traffic light. Waiting for a green, permissive signal, he saw the ambulance car, which was driving between two stripes, alarm and blinking flashing beacons.
Victor realized that he should miss the doctors hurrying to the urgent challenge. In order to move their vehicle, he had to drive a little forward, as a result of which the front wheels drove behind the stop line. A similar maneuver made drivers of neighboring cars. One of them also drove for a continuous line - probably he also came a fine.
Photo provided by Viktor Allin
"All cars were parted, and I also passed forward and left for the ambulance car," said Victor Site. The occurred captured located above the expensive camera, and on August 9, Viktor was discharged a fine of 800 rubles. The amount is not a significant, but offensive: after all, the driver is moving the stop line is not inattentive and not for evil intent, but from the best motives.
"In fact, I expected a fine to come. I knew that the camera was standing at the intersection, but I could not miss an ambulance, "said Victor in the comment site. He wrote a complaint on the traffic police website, but his arguments left without attention. In the document signed by I.O. Head of the Center for Automated Fixation administrative offenses Regional management of the traffic police Evgenia Magsumovich Shaydullina (available site) It is said that Victor was to "take such a position in advance to ensure this vehicle, as well as the unobstructed passage accompanied by him."
At the same time, Victor said that he had already figured out. "I have no desire, nor the time to ride the courts because of this, so I paid it .." I do not quite understand this decision. I could not rest in advance, because by the time I saw an ambulance car, I was standing at the traffic light about forty seconds. I could not assume in advance that it would appear, "Victor wonders.
Provided by Viktor Allyna
"The driver during the movement in a lively city, of course, can not take into account the possibility of emergence car at the intersection at each stop at the intersection," said the representative of Taxi owls of Yevgeny Grek in a conversation with the site. He drew attention to the fact that the legislation does not particularly specifically regulate the rules of conduct in such a controversial situation. And we are talking not only about the moment when you need to skip the ambulance.
For example, if the taxi driver is planted with a disabled passenger on a special parking, intended only for such a category of citizens, it can also wait for a penalty, because a taxi is not included in a special registry where cars are made with disabilities. "Here it remains either to plant a passenger for two kilometers from the place you need and create extra difficulties for him, or then pay," Eugene complains. However, in his opinion, an ambulance to the driver should pass in any case that the doctors manage to come to the challenge: save human life - more important than any fines.
It is noteworthy that if the driver is not inferior to the road hurrying to a challenge ambulance, it is also waiting for a penalty or deprivation of the right to control the vehicle for a period of 1 to 3 months (Article 12.17 of the Codecha of the Russian Federation). But missing doctors, it is important and not overdoing not to create an emergency for other road users.
"No one expects himself from the driver that he will raise his car on a helicopter or leave the red light," Alexander Kaminsky explained the site. He pointed out that the good intentions of Viktor Allin are obvious, but the violation of traffic rules The camera records absolutely impartially and mechanical device Do not know the situation. "Although, on the proceedings, I would justify him," said the interlocutor.
"In this case, the driver had to skip the ambulance carriage. In this regard, and also due to the insignificance of violations [Crossing the stop line in less than halfcarp the machine, which did not create interference or emergency], he must be released from liability on the basis of articles 24.5 of the COAP and 2.9 Administrative Code, "the car lawyer believes public Movement "Stop illegal" Alexander Lyascovsky.
"I think that the fine Viktor is completely not justified," said Dmitry Sotnikov in conversation with the site. In his opinion, Russian legislation makes it possible to appeal such controversial fines through the court, but most drivers prefer not to get involved in litigation.
True, now the driver can return the money: in Samara control of the traffic police, probably, Viktor called with a proposal to cancel an unfair punishment. "He [called the representative of the traffic police] I told me that I need to go to court and he would apply to the abolition of a fine on the part of the traffic police," said Allyn. Corresponding site sent a request to the Ministry of Internal Affairs with a request to explain what happened, but the answer has not yet arrived (in the Ministry of Internal Affairs promised to send a letter on August 30).
Dmitry Sotnikov lawyer advises Allyna, after all, go to court: only by regular claims will be able to change law enforcement practices in the field of fines. "The judgment of the court will need to be attributed to the traffic police ..
Note that what happened with Victor is not a single case. In the same city of Togliatti last year, the driver Vyacheslav Strochenkov lost to the road reanimobile and also got a fine. Then the traffic police also advised the driver to appeal the prescription. Unfortunately, in the traffic police not so often correctly correct their mistakes. "It happens, when applying, they say that refuse, you can submit to the court or complain about the prosecutor's office," notes Evgeny Grek.
