Better a symbol or a logan. Comparison of cars Renault Symbol II sedan and Renault Logan I sedan restyling. Differences between cars

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I handed over my horse for repair. And while the lords of the hammer and colors conjure over him, he rented Renault Symbol... My Logan was released in the Privilege configuration, while the issued Simbol is also not empty. And since there is an opportunity, I will try to compare these two models lying in the overlapping price category. I will be at a loss to name the complete set issued, but there are:
- full power accessories
- central locking
- seat height adjustment
- head unit
- climate control
- automatic transmission
The first impression is that the car is noticeably smaller. At least in height. Okay tailored, design ... Design is a controversial concept, but I have nothing against it. We occupy driver's seat... We adjust the seat, adjust the back… The steering wheel has no adjustments, but the seat height adjustment helps a lot. And since I like to sit higher, we raise it to the maximum, after which the steering wheel is very comfortable to lay down in hand. Ouch! Somehow the roof has become too close, it is easy to touch it just by raising your hand up ... And rear passengers, especially taller than average height, probably not very comfortable (especially if I take into account the roof roll behind).

So, after a year and a half of owning the symbol, I decided to write a review about it. I will describe the cars in comparison with the previous Logan, as many probably wondered: which is better to take - Logan or Symbol?

As I said in a previous review, the reason for changing the car is the fatigue of the Logan's suspension (either shock absorbers, or springs, I don't know), worn out for 100 thousand in winter and summer tires, the impending need to replace belts and rollers. In addition, to be honest, the hunt was to replace the car with something else.

I was not actively looking for another car, and Simbol turned up by accident. It was certainly not a task to buy Renault, but a small mileage was a prerequisite. The car was produced in 2006, purchased in May 2007, at the time of purchase by me (December 2010) the mileage was 12 thousand km. It was a colleague's car. There was no winter rubber, since it was not used in winter. This is a witness himself, since he constantly saw a car in the winter in a corporate garage, covered with a thick layer of dust (he stood there almost all year round). Confirmation of the reality of the run - the TO-1 coupon, which was produced by the owner exactly one year later, with a run of ... 1,500 km :) We did not do any other maintenance on the car.

The first feeling when I got behind the wheel of a symbol: "Oh, yes, this is a foreign car !!" The dashboard and the front panel in the symbol, although made of hard plastic, are richer, there is a backlight in the glove compartment !! :), the power window buttons are located on the left door, and not on the center panel, as in Logan, the seat fabric is of higher quality. There are others pleasant trifles... For example, there is a central locking button on the key, when the doors are unlocked, the interior light is automatically lit up, and when the ceiling light goes out when locked, this was not the case in Logan. By the way, I never put the signaling on the symbol.

The steering column is height adjustable, set it up once and forget it.

There are pockets in the backs of the front seats; even that was not in the Logan.

The trunk lid is neatly lined with felt from the inside, bare metal in the logan. There is no metal in the trunk itself, since it is all covered with rigid molded felt. The quality of the felt cannot be compared with that of Logan's. Balon, towing bolt and jack are packed in a special device that lies inside the spare wheel. In Logan, it was all attached to the inner side panel. The felt on the boot floor is hard, because on the reverse side sheathed with cardboard. In Logan, I had to do it myself, since the trunk floor without cardboard is uneven.

The backrest of the rear seat in the symbol is folded (while the opening buttons are neat and convenient). But it is worth saying that the opening from the passenger compartment to the trunk turns out to be very low (stiffening rib), so it will turn out to be a hard length to put horseradish. In particular, my snowboard, without scratching, cannot be thrust into a stiffener.

The central locking also extends to the trunk. In Logan, the trunk was locked / unlocked only with a key.

There are three rear head restraints, they are adjustable, in the lower position they are recessed into the seat back (like in a real foreign car! :)), which is convenient and does not interfere with the view back. There are only two of them in logans and they do not hide in the back. In my Logan, they were not at all.

And more !! The pibikalka is installed normal, and not at the end of the left steering column switch, like in Logan !! :) I'm used to this feature, but it annoys many.

There are other pribluds, but they relate more to the configuration features: there are foglights, condo, head unit, heated mirrors, BC, height-adjustable driver's seat, and all the body parts are painted :).

I will not describe the exterior, because for most both cars are ugly, the symbol is even uglier, probably. In general, the interior and exterior of Renault sucks. The exception is the megan hatchback (both new and old), IMHO.

Now about the operation. The second feeling, when I sat down in the symbol, is closer in the cabin. This one touches the upper part of the cabin. I am 175 cm tall and my seat is in the down position. Tall drivers will miss the space to the left of their heads. True, I sit upright, if the back of the seat is lowered, then everything will be OK for the tall ones. Tighter at the top and in the back seat. In Logan, I put my snowboard vertically behind the front seat, rolling it all the way forward. At the same time, the upper part practically rested against rear glass... It didn't work out in the simbola, it didn't fit in the trunk either (it didn't fit in the logan either). Folding the back seat, the result is also not achieved. Had to buy a roof rack. I was lucky, I found a new one in the package right away along with ski pins for only 5 tr. The woman bought for her symbol, but never used it. Otherwise I would have to buy a new one. I will say that the roof rack is a cool thing! In winter, snowboards ride on the top (which is very convenient), and in summer, cabinets and tables.

As I said, the trunk is connected to the central locking system and is locked / unlocked from the button on the key. The boot lid is opened with a button that is integrated into the Renault emblem. The downside is that there are no larvae for the key in the trunk lock. Literally after six months of operation, the central locking device that unlocks the trunk lock broke down, I had to climb into the trunk through the passenger compartment to unlock the lock. The trunk is now not locked. So far nothing has been rested from him. I witnessed a similar picture. A man in a neighboring yard climbed into the trunk through the salon, because in the spring after the winter parking the battery sat down, as a result the central control did not work. I opened the doors with the key, and the trunk - hell!

The trunk opening in Logan is larger and more convenient, that's a fact. But the trunk of the symbol is larger: it accommodates all four wheels (14 "), when replacing the rubber in the logan, the fourth wheel was located in the cabin. The height of the trunks is absolutely the same.

Logan is better prepared for winter operation. The simbola does not have air ducts to the rear passengers under the front seats !!! It's just a kapets !!! You can buy in existential, but too lazy to bother with it. The rear window is heated worse than in Logan. In Logan, the rear window was heated with a bang even at minus 35. In the simbola, the heater copes only with fogging. Perhaps this is a drawback of my particular copy. In spring and autumn, in muddy roads, it is often necessary to knead a mixture of mud and snow. After such trips, it is necessary to work with the gearbox mixer, otherwise the fifth or rear may not stick. Jokes, jokes, but one morning after leaving on the road, I could not turn on the fifth after such a trip. I had to drive the car into warm garage to melt the snow. After that, no problem. The fact is that dirt and snow clog the space between the crankcase and the engine protection, and somewhere in that area there is also the gearbox switch actuator.

The simbol starts up in cold weather without problems, the battery is native.

The clearance of the symbol is similar to that of the Logan.

In the symbol, limit switches rear doors located on top, so they do not get water and dirt like in Logan.

The consumption of the symbol is less. If you do not vomit on the BC comes out 7.5 liters. 50% city, 50% highway. The condo is sometimes on, sometimes off. On the highway, the speed is 120-130 km / h. I tried to somehow achieve the minimum consumption. I drove 90-100 km / h on the highway, accelerated smoothly in the city, coasting whenever possible. It turned out something about 6.3 liters. But even pensioners don't go like that! :))) In short, 7.5 liters real expense, for checks it turns out the same way.

The biggest jamb in my symbole is the clutch creak. In the heat, the clutch pedal is extremely uninformative, tight, and even squeaks disgustingly. It infuriates me. Officials say "a feature of the car." What is this feature ??? Driving in traffic jams in the heat (when over +30) is a torment. All that these degenerate ones can do is rinse with Karcher and grease the wings with oil. Helps for 2-3 days. I did not find an answer to the solution to the problem in the forums. Such a jamb, by the way, happened on Logan, but it both appeared and disappeared (it lasted about 10 days).

The first feeling (they were confirmed in the future) is how the engine started and drove like this:

the engine is much quieter. I installed a Shumka in Logan, but even with it, Logan's engine is louder;

transmissions in the symbol are shorter. Apparently, therefore, it subjectively accelerates faster, although the engine is 1.4 and only 75 horses;

on small joints and bumps, the symbol is tougher than the logan. Maybe these are the features of rubber, since in general the suspension is no less energy-intensive;

there is more noise from the road in the simbola, but in Logan I made a Shumka. Therefore, I cannot objectively compare this indicator;

when I first went on the highway on a symbol, I remembered the "young" Logan. Their behavior on the road is similar. Unless in a crosswind, the symbol holds the road better.

Subjectively, the elasticity of the Logan engine is slightly higher, after all, the displacement makes itself felt. This is felt first of all at the speed with a full load of the car. When loading 5 people + full trunk+ condo symbol does not go. It is necessary for the fifth person to get out of the passenger compartment and push the car from behind. There was no air conditioning in the logan, so I can't say how turning it on / off affects the dynamics of the car at speed.

Replaced parts and breakdowns for 66 thousand mileage:

A month after the purchase (about 15 thousand run), the radio tape recorder died. Officials replaced for FREE with a new one. How this happened I don’t know, the car by that time was almost 4 years old from the date of purchase;

I don’t remember at what thousand the central locking system of the trunk lid broke, the lock on it has not been locked since then;

I changed the front pads by about 45 thousand;

At 60 thousand, the low beam lamp in the left headlight burned out, changed;

At 63 thousand I changed the tie rods-tips (in pairs);

I changed timing rollers / belts and attachments for 65 thousand;

Oil, filters every 15 thousand. I don't follow this strictly. Once I drove 18 thousand without oil change;

I changed the candles right after the purchase (when I did the first MOT), after that I did not change it;

In the summer, once a month I go to wash and lubricate the stage so that the clutch pedal does not creak, it helps for 2-3 days if the heat is over 30;

At 66 thousand, for the first time, when stopping in front of a traffic light, when the gas pedal was released, the engine speed was delayed for a second and only then dropped to normal. This is a harbinger of replacing the throttle cable or problems with the throttle valve.

So, which to take a Logan or a Simbol? From the point of view of operation and exterior amenities, the Symbol is definitely more advanced than the Logan. There is no absolute savings in everything. At the same time, technically, these cars are similar and the jambs are innate the same. For example, I changed the throttle cable on Logan two times, a sign of its imminent replacement appeared on the symbol. The squeak of the clutch wings on engines 1.4 (1.6 too) is manifested both on the Logan and on the symbol. And this is perhaps the most unpleasant jamb of these cars. Tie rod ends run roughly the same on both models. The disease of both cars is the inner boot of the left wheel drive. It is susceptible to pollution and in winter it can break on frozen mud and ice, it was on my Logan. Now a crunch appeared on my simbol when starting off under load (uphill, for example). But I can’t say whether this is so now, since the sound was a couple of times and not obvious, you need to specifically define it. But the crunch inner CV joint on logans and symbols also occurs. In terms of the volume of internal space, cars also do not fundamentally differ.

My advice is the following: if you buy a used car and the exterior matters to you, then the symbol is, but it will be correspondingly more expensive. If you choose from NEW cars, and with an ENGINE 1.6 16 cl, then I would take a symbol. Take Logan for 470 tr. - this is too much, and the symbol can be taken for 500 tr. in the normal configuration. Now the new Symbols are sold only with a 1.6 16 cl engine.

P / S if they tell you that the logan / symbol does not break, then they lie to you. Original spare parts for them cost unrealistic money. Non-original ones are comparable to spare parts for cars of a higher class.

P.P / S I described the 2006 symbol and the 2007 logan. These cars have undergone restyling.

The history of the appearance on the market of Symbola is quite interesting: in fact, it is a second generation Renault Clio, to which Turkey decided to weld the trunk just in order to get a more prestigious sedan, in the opinion of residents of developing countries. Therefore, the rear of the car looks like a suitcase glued to an extraneous hatchback. However, the developers, judging by the appearance of the car, completely ignored the design issues, aiming to make something similar with the price of the Logan, and the presence of at least minimal comfort - for the Clio. It turned out to be a rather interesting hunchback horse, with the same ambiguous appearance, but on a very good B-platform used on Renault Clio, Logan, Modus (unfortunately, it did not take root in our country: the price of the bourgeoisie was bent too high) and Nissan micra and Note. There is a lot of information about the origin and use of this platform, and we will not focus on this. Note that our current car is produced in 2004, that is, before the restyling of 2008, after which the appearance of the car changed so much that it no longer caused particularly violent aesthetes to want to take a hammer and give it a more decent shape. Although the restyling significantly affected the Symbol externally, it retained its essence: inexpensive sedan, characterized by a fairly high reliability and the complete absence of at least a little bit of charisma.

Inspection in a car service

Of the design features visible on the lift, it is worth noting a non-separable exhaust system, or rather its rear part: a resonator, a muffler and exhaust pipe... Here the owner of Simbol Konstantin takes the floor: - Be sure to write about this! - he pokes his finger into the pipe. - To replace the muffler, you need a grinder. It cannot be changed separately. We passed, we know. This is a drawback, I believe. Well, let's note this sad fact and write about it. This is all the more interesting because these parts are sold separately, and the plant's recommendation says that the pipe must be cut mercilessly and a repair sleeve must be installed, which they will also gladly sell to you. Considering that exhaust system rots much faster than a well-galvanized body, the recommended operation is at least confusing.

Finishing the inspection of the chassis, a car service specialist remarked: - I can't even remember that people came to us with the need for any major repairs to the chassis. She only requires timely replacement some parts, but the resource is generally very good. Although, of course, it largely depends on driving style. - What is the manner, - the owner of Renault grinned sarcastically, - 75 horses ... Yes, 75 is not much. This, frankly, is not enough. Especially considering today's speeds. But in budget car the main thing is not the number of horses in the herd, but their health and endurance. And with this, Simbol is also doing well. Our car has the simplest of all possible motors on this car: an eight-valve gasoline unit, which has practically no obvious drawbacks. However, there are some interesting features. The first one touches the alternator belt. When replacing it, the belt should be correctly positioned on the pulley: in machines with air conditioning, a free stream should remain on the generator pulley on the left in the direction of travel, without an air conditioner - on the right. In the latter case, nothing criminal will happen even if the installation is incorrect, but manufacturers recommend installing it in such a way that will reduce the load on the bearings. The second is the ignition coil. Our car is equipped with one from Bosch, which is slightly different from the original coil. The body of the new coil is thinner, and there is a gap between it and the block, which does not exist in the case of the original spare part. From constant heating from the block, the coil body cracks, and the spark begins to pierce the ICE block. Konstantin has already encountered this, therefore, he speaks about this subtlety, and not the master of the service station, who has deviations in ICE operation our Renault did not find.

Car owner's opinion

I already know from experience that when buying a "used" car, you need to take a less "stuffed" one, but with less mileage. Therefore, I chose this one, at the time of purchase it ran only 38 thousand.

Today the mileage is 60 thousand. During this time, from unscheduled repairs, the springs, the ignition coil and the leaking working brake cylinder were replaced. For 11 years of operation - very good. So, what the master notes by systems. The motor is reliable and predictable, easy to maintain. Timing belt installation marks are located directly on the belt, which, when replaced, does not allow a single tooth to be mistaken.

Gearbox shifts are clear, it raises no objections. However, the foreman who inspected the car confirms that there were no cases of breakdowns of these boxes in his memory. The stove heats well, the light, according to the owner, is very good. The quality deserves praise paintwork... After last year Car accident got dents on the rear fenders and doors, but none. Despite the fact that the car often drives on the highway, there are no characteristic chips either. Well, there were no signs of corrosion on the body, although the car is in its twelfth year. Disadvantages of the car No matter how reliable the motor is, it is still rather weak. Trying to match the average flow rate, Konstantin managed to find out that the cutoff in second gear is triggered at 80 km / h. Over time, he made a wise decision: let him overtake whoever wants to, and this car is not for active driving. Of course, you should also forget about risky overtaking.

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The absence of a tachometer looks like an absolute anachronism. The light switch has only fixed positions without the ability to "blink" the headlights. At self-service you will certainly come across a large number of bolts by 16, and the keys of such a rare dimension are not always worth it good money... As well as the cleverly contrived tetrahedron, which will be needed to unscrew the oil drain plug when replacing it in the internal combustion engine.

To fold the back of the rear seat, you need to lift the seat cushion and unscrew the mounting bolts. That is, the backrest seems to unfold, but in practice it is very inconvenient to use it. The trunk is large, but its opening is narrow, so a lot of little things will fit there, and something larger will have to be put on the back seat: the doorway allows. Also in the trunk, massive hinges are in the way, which eat up a lot of usable space when the lid is closed. The interior is narrow, so the "feeling of the elbow" is felt quite well. Yes, there is very little space above the head and at the legs. The author of this article was unable to sit behind the driver. We will, of course, make a discount for the owner's height of 196 cm, but nevertheless ... A short service life of the muffler is characteristic: unlike the body, it rots quickly and very willingly. Remembering how to replace it, the owner's eyes turn red.

The view in the mirrors is organized in such a way that the blind spots will be quite significant, which trains peripheral vision and attentiveness well, like a real Japanese ninja.

What they write on the forums

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I am glad that frankly negative reviews do not meet. Either the owners of these cars are exceptionally intelligent people, or the Symbol is really so good. Rather, the second.

Subjective opinion

And yet these little things coalesce into a big stain on the Symbol's reputation, making it kind of unfinished.

Perhaps, in a richer configuration, there will be no feeling of inferiority from, for example, the lack of illumination of the "glove compartment", tachometer, rear mudguards, adjusting the pause of the wipers and two more little things that the owner asked not to talk about. We will tactfully keep silent about the air conditioner, ABS, ESP and other options, which for many have already become the norm. Of course, none of this is there. But there is a driver's airbag in the most "vegetable" configuration, engine protection, there is a body resistant to corrosion, there is reliable motor and box. That is, everything you need for a successful and - which is very good for a "state employee" - relatively safe operation car. A rather controversial appearance (today I am delicate as never before) fades into the background in comparison with the interior design, so unlike the interior of the closest competitor - Logan. And the ride, I will not dissemble, is pleasant enough: the suspension does not "swear" even on significant irregularities and tram tracks, the motor is almost inaudible (if you do not turn it too much).

The whole car gives a feeling of a kind of good quality.

We managed to ride both in the city and outside the city. Very short first and second gears up to a speed of 50 km / h allow you to feel like in a car with quite acceptable dynamics. But as soon as you turn on the third, and the revolutions become far from maximum, the Symbol becomes lazy, like Emelya on the stove. In the city you can spit on it, but overtaking on the highway can become simply dangerous. Although here, I think, the head should work, and not the "cutoff". I can't even imagine how this motor will pull a car with air conditioning, which sometimes you want to turn on.

Our Simbol has an understanding owner. He knows that the car is worth the money, but he does not expect much from it either. Of course, this car is better suited to a family than a young racer. But the height of family members should not be higher than average. And the width too. There is a not very clever saying: “You cannot buy Ford, Fiat and French FSE”. It seems to me that the last point is absolutely untenable. You can buy something French, even though it is collected in Turkey. The car costs your money, and if you want something more, get ready to spend a completely different amount. It will be needed either to buy something better, or to repair something older, but not so "symbolic".

For help in preparing the material, we express our gratitude to the car service

Renault Symbol or Renault Logan - which is better? This question is asked by many, especially those who are just going to get behind the wheel. Renault Symbol cars and Renault logan belong to the segment of classic budget sedans, they are perfect for the first driving experiences. They are similar in many ways, but there are also significant differences between the two representatives of the French car industry.

Let's compare Renault Logan and Renault Symbol and try to establish what key differences can be found between them and what points you should pay attention to when choosing.

Which is better - Logan or Symbol?

Cars can be compared in many ways. The main, perhaps, for any motorist will be the comfort and convenience of driving, the quality of parts and the cost of maintenance. Also important for many appearance cars, her dynamic characteristics and cross-country ability. Moreover, which of this will come first, everyone decides for himself - everything is very individual.

Compare Renault Symbol and Logan

It is difficult to unequivocally answer the question of which is better - Renault Symbol or Logan. We will try to compare the presented models for certain characteristics, and also consider the reviews of those who had experience driving each of the cars.

Renault Logan

The car is a budget subcompact sedan, which was designed specifically for the developing countries of the third world. The main production is located in Romania at the Dacia plant. From 2005 to 2015, Logan was produced in Moscow at the Avtoframos plant, since 2014 AvtoVAZ also joined its production - the second generation of cars is produced there.

Logan was created on the basis of the old version of Renault Clio and became the successor of its main features. The main thing that he inherited is the K7M engine. An old Megan gearbox was taken as a checkpoint. In fact, Logan is a mixture of outdated technological solutions of the Renault carmaker. In many ways, therefore, the price for it is very democratic. Average fuel consumption is 6.8 liters per 100 km.

Reviews suggest that Logan is quite suitable for novice drivers, it is strong, reliable and has good cross-country ability. Compared to the second model, the Logan has larger wheels and is better off-road, runs smoothly and produces little noise.

Renault Symbol

This model can be called the successor to Clio 2. Technologically, it is more advanced than Logan. The car has a lightweight body, which is fully galvanized.

Symbol can safely claim the title of one hundred percent European sedan, and it is produced for European countries. Production is established in Turkey at the Oyak-Renault plant, due to which the final price of the car is not so high.

Those motorists who had the opportunity to compare both models say that the Symbol is more comfortable, easier to drive, has better noise isolation and has better dynamics. It accelerates to 100 km / h in 9.5 seconds. (how far Logan is). Average fuel consumption is 7 liters per 100 km.

Still, everyone agrees that Logan is definitely inferior in appearance both outside and inside, although the rear seat is wider than that of the Renault Symbol, so passengers can sit on it with greater comfort. By the way, the front of the Logan is also more comfortable and spacious, the driver is freer to sit in it.

Reviews of car owners and service masters indicate that the least number of calls to the service are received in the entire Renault line of Symbol, while breakdowns are not uncommon for Logan.

Dimensions of Symbol and Logan

Renault logan

Renault Symbol

Model similarities:

• Both are based on the B-Platform.
• Both the one and the other have options with the 8 cl K7J engine. 75 h.p.
• Front independent suspension.
• Rear suspension, semi-dependent.

Differences between cars:

• Logan was created for third world countries, Symbol for European countries.
• The Symbol is 200 kg lighter and slightly smaller in size.
• Logan has slightly less fuel consumption.
• Logan is partially galvanized, Symbol is completely.
• Back seat Logan doesn't add up.
• The maximum displacement of the Logan engine is 1.6 (90 hp), the Symbol is 1.4 (98 hp).
• The frontal resistance of the Symbol is lower, which improves the dynamics.

From all of the above, we can conclude that both options are suitable as the first car. Choosing which is better - Renault Symbol or Renault Logan - it is worth recognizing that the second model is inferior to the first in terms of performance, durability and design, however, the price of Logan is lower. Therefore, it is difficult to unequivocally answer the question posed - it all depends on what is your priority.

If you are planning to buy a car for a long time and are not going to change it in the foreseeable future, you should give preference to Renault Symbol. If you are looking for a workhorse in which the whole family will ride comfortably, and the price is the key factor, then you can safely opt for Logan.

He took the sold Matiz instead. Found, oddly enough, rather quickly, calling offhand on the ad avito.ru We agreed to meet on the square, where I went from my parents' house with string bags. Examined the car, outwardly no crime, it is immediately clear that "not a bit / not painted", the engine runs smoothly. We drove, it goes smoothly, there are no breakdowns, no squeaks (I overlooked, as it turned out later, a crisp CV joint). I rolled myself, it was striking that the vibrations were transmitted to the gearshift lever, but then it turned out that this was a design feature - switching not on the cables, but on the levers. And so ... Accelerates (after Matiz) frighteningly quickly, it is beautiful inside, gears are shifted clearly, regardless of whether you downshift or increase gears. All in all NORM! We agreed that he would not sell the car. We discussed the price by phone, agreed on 255 thousand rubles... Then DCT, registration in MREO, insurance.

By expenses:

1. Insurance. Because I had an emergency luch last fall (tangential accident) I was brought into "1st category", therefore, unplanned, they ripped me off as much 6400 rbl.

Strengths:

• Quite good dynamics (after Matiz)
• Solid and reliable design
• Stainless steel body and plastic fenders
• Large trunk
• Thanks to the rigid suspension, no pecks or breakdowns
• The paint is native. Glasses too. And that says a lot
• Quite good sound insulation for its class
• Noble appearance

Weaknesses:

• Rigid suspension. On the one hand, this is a plus, but I would like a softer suspension
• It's a bit cramped inside the cabin. About the same as in the prototype of Symbol-Grant.
• The windows fog up in damp weather. It is treated by blowing the windshield. Apparently, the hood is not so effective.
• Many units and parts are assembled, because of this, the price tag on them increases significantly. Renault-Nissan detected.

Review of Renault Renault Symbol (Renault Symbol) 2008

1. The agony of choice.

There were almost none. In 2010, my wife and I decided to change the car 21099 (it was restored after an accident) for a new LOGAN, they came to the salon and oh ... and - wait at the required configuration 8 months. There was not enough money for MEGANE, even with a discount, but then the salon manager (my former classmate) came to the rescue and said - take SYMBOL, it was in 2008 in the TCP, in the salon it was like an exhibition, and the discount on it was 110 sput. The equipment for the car - EXPRESSION (2 pillows, ABS, music with the steering wheel joystick, improved seat fabric, air conditioning, etc.), engine 1.4 98 hp. and the box is automatic. Automatic DP0, has several additional. modes - winter, 2, 1 and D3. And all this for 450 sput. (with discount). LOGAN in the configuration I wanted came out in 430 sput. After thinking, we decided - we should take SYMBOL, which was done.

Strengths:

• Good ground clearance
• Reliability
• Unhijackability
• 92 gasoline
• Engine
• Large trunk

Weaknesses:

• Build quality
• Machine
• Close behind

I chose this car for a long time, reviewed many options, I wanted to stop at Logan, but I won over the appearance of the symbol, the fact that it was recently updated (the predecessor was too ugly) and a 16-valve engine, which Logan did not yet have.

I stopped at Renault almost immediately, I dismissed the VAZ “masterpieces” as soon as I opened the priors door (it cracked, creaked and with good effort I opened it, and then closed it), did not want to give almost 400,000 for the car, in which I was still investing and investing ... The option with the Volga 31105 was very interesting, but the impression was spoiled right in the cabin by a jammed door. In the end, he chose between Logan, Accent and Specter. The decision to buy Symbol was spontaneous, and I hardly regret it.

I took the car in the minimum configuration: 1.4 engine, front windows, power steering. Additionally, I put only speakers, a radio tape recorder and an alarm.

Strengths:

• Successful engine power (98 HP)
• Great appearance
• Zero hijacking
• Reliability
• High unification of parts with other cars of this brand
• Comfortable salon
• Roomy trunk

Weaknesses:

• The rear seat does not fold down (only in the minimum configuration)
• Small trunk opening
• When opening the trunk in the rain, water flows into the opening from the lid

Recall Renault Symbol 1.4 (Renault Symbol) 2008

An old acquaintance bought himself this brainchild of the French-Turkish car industry in 2009 and managed to drive it as much as 13,500 kilometers in a year and a half. In principle, he is pleased with his purchase, but does not feel much enthusiasm, they say, "yes, the machine is undoubtedly reliable, quite comfortable, but if it would have been more frolic ..." With the Renault Clio 2 hatchback, on the basis of which and this little car was built, I have an "old love", but on her "little brother" sedan "Symbol" - until now, somehow I didn't really have to travel. Therefore, I wanted to figure out how the Franco-Turks could have managed to disfigure Renault Clio 2 so much that as a result its famous “playfulness” disappeared? :)

In my review of the Symbol, I will try not to compare it with anything. I will talk about what I saw and understood - exclusively according to the Yakut folk principle “I see the motor - I sing the motor”. The configurations of "Symbols" can be quite varied - in this case we will talk about "Expression" with a manual transmission-5 and a K4J-DOHC-16V-98hp engine, assembled in Turkey.

"Experienced Symbolists" will hardly be able to find something "new" in my "opus", but for some motorists who have never encountered the "French car industry" - I hope it will be interesting to know in more detail what "RENAULT SYMBOL" is. "(Aka Renault Thalia, aka Nissan Platinum) ... What if someone wants to join the multimillion-dollar ranks of renowned brands after reading! :)

Strengths:

• "Evil street fighter" for an aggressive experienced driver and at the same time "quiet and peaceful little car" for a small family

Weaknesses:

• A little less "low-budget solutions" in the interior of the little car ...