Unreadable engine number what to do. What to do if the wine number is rusted. Should I buy such a car?

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Rust, mechanical damage and a number of other factors lead to the fact that the vehicle's VIN code becomes unreadable. If earlier it was impossible to register such a car, then since 2017 this procedure has been allowed.

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All the same, a preliminary forensic examination is required, which must prove that the numbers have not been interrupted.

What metal are the plates made of?

The body number is applied to the plate, which is bolted to the power units. In GOST there is no indication of what metal it should be made of, but in practice aluminum and iron are usually used. Also, the VIN-code is applied in the form of laser engraving on metal directly on the car parts.

To protect the plate from corrosion, it is covered with automotive varnish, grease, lithol. You can use only colorless products, otherwise, during the examination, these actions will be regarded as attempts to deliberately damage the number.

Locations

The location of the VIN numbers on all cars is different, but it must comply with the requirements.

According to clause 3.2, the code is applied to the vehicle manufacturer's plate, as well as to the frame, chassis, part of the body that is not easily removable. It should be located in right side cars, ideally in the front.

Clause 3.3.1 establishes the requirements for the manufacturer's plate. It must be firmly fixed in a visible or easily readable area on the part of the car that cannot be replaced during operation.

Clause 3.2.8 allows additional application of visible and / or invisible marking with a VIN number on the vehicle or is part of it - descriptive (VDS) or indicative (VIS).

The location of the codes in most cases is indicated in the documents on the vehicle. On each car, the number is duplicated several times, including stickers. Naturally, in all places the code should be the same.

In a car

VIN can be applied to the following parts of a passenger car:

  • on the door pillar on the driver's side;
  • on the threshold of the driver's door;
  • under the hood;
  • inside the dashboard;
  • at the windshield.

Modern manufacturers passenger cars usually place the VIN code on the area under the body. On older models, it may be on other parts.

By truck

On trucks, VIN can also be located in different places, depending on the manufacturer and the year of manufacture.

In most cases, the code can be found:

  • in the upper left of the dashboard;
  • at the bottom of the windshield;

  • next to the driver's seat;
  • at the bottom of the arch;
  • under the driver's seat;
  • under the hood.

    On a motorcycle

    There is no VIN code on Japanese motorcycles. On American and European, it is placed on the frame. Often the code can be found on the steering rack on the right side, as required by GOST, or on the fork at the bottom near the fender.

    Actions if the VIN number is rusted

    Rust can often be removed on your own. The numbers are knocked out deep enough, so they can completely rot only with prolonged exposure to an aggressive environment.

    The following measures will help to clean the VIN-code plate from rust:

    1. Wipe the area with the body number with a cloth soaked in solvent. You can repeat the procedure several times.
    2. If the solvent doesn't work, you can try a phosphoric acid rust converter. You need to apply it on the area you want to clean and leave it for 15-20 minutes. Then wipe thoroughly with a wet cloth and dry. Sometimes after that, the VIN-code numbers begin to appear on the treated surface.
    3. If the effect of phosphoric acid is also not enough, the option with sandpaper remains. You just need to be very careful. Using sandpaper, you can remove not only rust, but also numbers. Therefore, do not rub hard.

    It is not recommended to act on rust with more aggressive substances. There will be clear scratches and other traces that traffic police officers may take for attempts to change the VIN code. This is fraught with even the institution of a criminal case.

    If earlier it was impossible to perform any actions with the car with an unreadable number, then from July 10, 2017 the rules have changed.

    Entered into force, which allowed registration even with a rotten VIN code, if the car can be identified.

    To legalize a car in this case, a forensic examination of the license plate will be required. Its results will become the basis for refusal to initiate a criminal case, and a note will be made in the registration data about the loss of the VIN number.

    A referral for examination is issued by a traffic police inspector who discovered code damage when checking a car for registration.

    The documents for the car are confiscated from the owner. He will have to visit the place of examination and take a coupon, which indicates the time and date of the procedure.

    At the appointed time, the owner leaves the car to the specialists, after which he needs to wait for the results.

    During the examination, parts that block access to the VIN number are removed from the car, sometimes it even comes to removing the engine. Dismantling works are paid by the owner. Then the unreadable code is etched away with aggressive chemical agents.

    Impurities of other metals, which always appear during the digestion of a number, are colored in a different color and become visible.

    Based on the results of the forensic examination, a criminal case is opened, then it turns out who dismantled the VIN and for what purpose.

    In parallel, the vehicle is being checked to see if it is listed in. In this case, it will be almost impossible to register the car, the traffic police will not return the documents.

    The car will only have to be disassembled or sold entirely for parts. The price will be minimal, but it is still impossible to use and make any transactions with the machine.

    It can take up to 15 days to await an official expert report. Then the papers can be submitted to the MREO a second time and again try to put the car on record.

    A note will be made in the TCP that the VIN number was destroyed in a natural way and was not subjected to alterations.

    Should I buy such a car?

    Since registration with an unreadable VIN code is now allowed, you can purchase such a car. Only first you need to conduct a forensic examination, which must confirm that the serial number has not been changed.

    After that, you can be sure that the car was not involved in criminal schemes, it can be used, donated, sold and bought.

    If experts establish that the code is broken under a layer of rust, the car will only have to be handed over for scrap. It is illegal to drive such a car. When buying a car from hands, there is a risk of getting into a similar situation, therefore it is recommended to check the VIN number before purchasing.

    If new owner only after the purchase will find out that the code is unreadable, he will have to order an examination himself for further registration of the car.

    However, he can accuse the seller of fraud, deliberate concealment of defects, change of the car number.

    If the examination established that the VIN was interrupted, it will not be possible to register the vehicle and generally use it. In such a situation, you need to demand from the seller the return of the money paid for the car.

    First, it is worth making a verbal request, trying to resolve the dispute peacefully. In practice, it is far from always possible to reach an agreement. If you failed to return the money, you can claim it through the court.

    First, the seller needs to send a pre-trial claim. It prescribes the requirement to return full cost machines and reimbursement of costs associated with its transportation and examination. The seller is asked to do this voluntarily and to avoid further proceedings.

    In the absence of a result from a pre-trial claim, documents should be prepared and submitted to the court. To the amount of the claim, you need to add the state duty, the cost of the services of a lawyer, if he is involved in the case.

    An important point: only the amount specified in the sales contract will be returned. If some funds were paid in excess of it, it will not be possible to collect them.

    Also, the chances of a refund are extremely small in the case of a purchase by gender, if there are no additional documents that can confirm the payment.

    In order not to find yourself in such a situation, the car sale and purchase transaction must be made through the drawing up of a contract indicating the full cost of the car.

    In what other cases the code readability is violated

    There are situations when the engine number differs from that indicated in the document. This article describes what to do if the engine number does not match the TCP.

    All drivers are aware of the existence of license plates in the car. They are registered in the TCP and it is they who are verified when passing the inspection.

    For some reason, the numbers may not match

    The initial information in the TCP is entered either at the factory or by customs, if the car is imported. There is a separate line where the model and engine number are entered, since this is a numbered unit.

    Changes in the law a few years ago put the engine on the same level with consumables and thereby canceled its number.

    In 2011, an order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs was adopted, which spoke about the cancellation of the reconciliation of numbers, since most of they are unreadable as a result of corrosion damage.

    Indeed, over time, the engine number becomes poorly distinguishable and the traffic police inspectors sent the car for examination.

    But two years later, further changes were made to the admin regulations, since the absence of a number on the motor was the impetus for fraud with this unit.

    This time, the reason for the refusal to register the car, among other reasons, was the illegibility of the numbers, as well as signs of forgery.

    Highlighting the reasons for the discrepancy between the numbers in the TCP with the number on the engine, it is worth noting:

    • the consequences of corrosion, when, with a working engine, part of the characters or the entire number cannot be read;
    • chips on the crankcase that prevent the license plate from being read;
    • replacement of the engine due to its wear;
    • replacement of the engine in connection with the improvement of the car;
    • installed an engine that was obtained illegally;
    • error while filling in TCP.

    Some of these reasons do not depend on the owner of the car and are not related to fraud. However, traffic police officers, sending a car for examination, seek to find the truth.

    Is it possible to suspend the conclusion of the sales contract

    The contract is considered concluded after both parties have signed it and the act of acceptance of the transfer. In practice, many people forget about the second document.

    Until the signing of the contract, the parties do not owe each other anything, since oral agreements cannot be recognized as evidence.

    If, at the stage of preliminary inspection of the car, significant deficiencies were found, namely, the mismatch of numbers is recognized as such, then it is not worth completing the transaction.

    If you hit a fraudulent seller, then most likely he will resort to intimidation and demand for compensation. To avoid this, you should not go to the conclusion of the deal alone and carry cash.

    In a situation where the numbers do not match, but the seller is ready to meet halfway, it is worth agreeing that the car owner go to GIDBBB and solve this problem.

    If the numbers are not readable as a result of corrosion or chips, then after the examination, changes will be made to the TCP and the new owner will not have any problems.

    With a completed transaction

    But the situation when the contract is signed, the money has been paid, and when registering, the new owner learns that the numbers do not correspond, and on this basis he was denied registration, it is quite common.

    In this case, there are three ways:

    1. Try to terminate the contract - for this, a written claim is written to the seller about the identification of significant shortcomings. According to the Civil Code, this is the basis for terminating the contract. The second party is given a month to make a decision. During this time, he must give an answer. It is important to note that the claim must be sent by registered mail with an inventory and notification. This will confirm the buyer's decision to settle the matter peacefully. If there is no answer, the case is filed with the court.
    2. Attempt to recover the engine numbers if there is no suspicion of fraud on the part of the seller. If the numbers have suffered from corrosion or chips, then the examination will easily establish them. But in this case it is necessary to understand that if it turns out that the numbers have been interrupted, then the buyer becomes an accomplice.
    3. Contact the traffic police and the police, confirming your bona fide documents as an acquirer. In this case, a serious check is carried out and if the car is not on the wanted list, then the car will be registered with the buyer after a while. But the buyer must have documents confirming the purchase of the car. At first glance, the situation seems incredible, but often cars or engines that have been stolen abroad are not looked for. The fact is that after the statement about the theft, a search is carried out, and the insurance company reimburses the costs to the owner.

    If there is a document on the engine

    However, there is a situation when the seller replaced the engine for obvious reasons and everything is legal. But changes in the TCP were not made, however, along with the main documents for the car, the buyer was given papers confirming the purchase and installation of the engine.

    It is important to take into account the fact that now the engine is not released if the machine is sent for recycling. That is, it is impossible to get the engine with all the documents from the scrapped car.

    In order to legally register a car with a new engine, you must collect the following documents:

    • applicant's passport;
    • Vehicle passport;
    • vehicle registration certificate. It is important to understand that you cannot drive a car without an SRT;
    • MTPL policy - this document is necessary not only for registration of the engine, but also for registering the car;
    • agreement confirming the purchase of the engine;
    • cargo customs declaration for engines brought from abroad;
    • paid receipt of state duty;
    • engine installation certificate;
    • a copy of the license of the service where the installation was carried out.

    It is better to take care immediately and make copies of all documents in advance, as they may be required. The documents are handed over to the traffic police officer and, after studying them, the car is presented for inspection.

    According to the rules, you first need to obtain permission to replace the engine, but in practice, owners rarely follow this rule. Therefore, the new owner will have to deal with making design changes to the TCP independently.

    The engine without documents

    Let's start with the fact that if it is possible not to buy a car with a replaced engine and there are no documents for the motor, then do not buy. Whatever the discount on the car, the costs that will go away when registering the car will be disproportionately higher.

    It is legally impossible to register a car that does not have the same numbers and there are no documents confirming the purchase of the engine. Upon inspection, which is mandatory when changing the owner, a mismatch will be found.

    Alternatively, you can buy such a car by proxy and drive it without registering for yourself. In this case, the car will not be inspected and, therefore, the discrepancy will not be noticed. But such a car will not be sold.

    Of course, there are options to try to "negotiate" or draw up fake documents, but you need to understand that this is a criminal offense.

    Difficulties in registering a car

    According to the rules, the engine is replaced as follows:

    • the owner of the car finds the engine;
    • collects all documents on him, checks his "purity";
    • goes to MREO for permission;
    • the employee checks whether the engine is suitable for technical characteristics, whether it is on the wanted list;
    • if everything is in order, then the owner receives permission to replace;
    • replacement is made in a service that has permission for such work.

    After replacing the engine, with documents confirming the fact of replacement, it is necessary to appear at the traffic police to register changes in the TCP. The payment of the state fee is also made for this registration action. Today it is 350 rubles.

    If all these conditions are met and changes are made to the TCP, then registration with the new owner will be easy.

    Registration is carried out in the MREO of the State Traffic Safety Inspectorate. You can also use the State Services portal, where you can apply and make an appointment.

    Documents required for registration:

    • application for registration;
    • the passport;
    • SRTS;
    • OSAGO policy;
    • contract of sale;
    • paid state duty.

    After the documents are checked by the MREO employee, the car must be submitted for inspection. The car must be clean and the license plates easily distinguishable. If the numbers match, then the car will be registered.

    When choosing a car, especially a used one, be especially careful. Unfortunately, there are a lot of fraudsters in the car market and they are often very convincing.

    Since buying a car involves a significant amount of money, it is necessary to carefully check not only the car itself, but also its documents.

    If the owner has a duplicate title in his hands - this is a reason to think. There are many options for obtaining a duplicate by a law-abiding citizen, but the risk of fraud in this case is higher.

    Even if the owner brought the original, all the numbers on the engine and body must be verified. Fraudulent scheme according to the original title and the broken license plates on the stolen car, it is as old as the world, but it still works.

    You can find out a lot about the car by the VIN number, it will also be useful to make a request to the traffic police about whether it is this car in the wanted database.

    Also, on the website of the bailiffs, you need to check if there is an arrest on the car.
    It is more difficult to check whether the car is laid down, since there is no single base. But there are special services by which you can check the main banks.

    Take the seller's contacts, make a copy of his passport. A fraudster will not agree to this, and the deal will fail, never taking place.

    If the numbers do not match, everyone decides for himself whether to buy this car. But you need to take into account the fact that when registering a car, problems will arise for sure.

    The mismatch of the engine number with the TCP data is a problem that can be solved, but this will take time and effort.

    And of course the documents that will confirm that the engine was bought legally. In order not to get into an unpleasant situation, it is necessary to check the car in every possible way before buying.

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    Expertise. What to do if the engine number, body number, VIN cannot be read

    Appointment of expertise.

    An inspector is appointed for an examination when, for some reason, he cannot read the number. This may be due to mechanical damage to some digits of the number or due to rust. Over the years, any number plate is susceptible to corrosion, and on some cars the areas with the number are located in such places and are subject to such strong environmental influences (salt, water, etc.) that it becomes a very difficult task to keep the number intact. The inspector, seeing this whole rusty picture, writes you a referral for examination. In this case, the documents for the car are seized on suspicion that the number was broken. If the inspector good mood he can also write you a power of attorney to receive the results of the examination. This will save you a few days.

    Passage of examination.

    Next, you need to come to the point indicated in the direction, where you will be given a ticket. The date of the examination will be assigned in the coupon. Then you wait for the coveted date and you are on the right day. The examination itself looks like this: from engine compartment everything that, according to experts, interferes with the normal examination of the issue will be removed and deleted. It should be noted that the examination itself seems to be free, but the work of the serviceman to remove and install interfering equipment is paid. After that, the expert will smear the remnants of your unfortunate number with various compounds, wait for a while, then rub, smear it again and wait again ... This may continue for several hours. After that, the expert will photograph what he has as a result turned out several times from different angles. Then he peels off the whole car looking for any other numbers, writes off the numbers of the spare parts he needs, gearboxes, frames, etc. Will look for places of possible welding or places of putty. Further, two options are possible: either the number can still be read under the influence of all these chemical solutions, or not. If so, you can safely go to the MREO with the results of the examination and continue the production. If the number has not been read, we are waiting for the results of the examination. Results will be ready within 15 working days.

    P.S. If you still read the number, then you need to pay attention to the following: after the expert has smeared your unfortunate number with all possible chemical reagents, it will rot VERY quickly. You cannot paint it with anything, since at any post the traffic cop will wrap you up with suspicion of unbroken numbers. The best solution would be to smear it with some kind of grease, graphite or lithol. And at the next setting / removal, wipe dry with a cloth with solvent.

    After examination.

    You can find out whether the results of the examination are ready by phone. The phone number will be indicated on your coupon. Well, just in case, you can clarify it when you pass the examination. When the results are ready, you can either (if you have a power of attorney to receive the results) go and get them yourself, or wait for them to be sent to the traffic police by mail. By the way, the results will go for about two weeks. The results must go to the traffic police to the search inspector. If you have them in your hands, hand them over in person. If not, periodically visit Gai to find out whether they came or not. You can, of course, call and ask by phone, but by phone the inspectors are not particularly eager to "help all citizens." As soon as the results are with the inspector, he will schedule a meeting for you to consider your case.

    Meeting with the search inspector.

    On the appointed day, the inspector gets acquainted with the results and draws up materials for initiating a criminal case. You will need to write an explanatory note according to the model, where you indicate that you did not interrupt the number on the engine, did not repair the engine, etc. The inspector will make photocopies of your title and registration certificate and, after certifying them with seals, will give you back. You can ride them for 30 days. And the case will be sent for investigation to the prosecutor's office. Your case should be investigated within 30 days.

    Prosecutor's Office.

    If the examination established that the number was not interrupted, but simply rotted naturally, and a similar car with VIN number coinciding with the readable letters of your number, then a decision is given to refuse to initiate a criminal case. In this case, the results of the investigation will finally be given to you and you can go to the MREO to finish your setting or removal. In this case, a photo of your rotted license plate will be pasted into the MTS and a note will be made that the license plate has rotted naturally. If the examination found that the number was interrupted, then the situation is much worse. In the best case, you will have to change the engine (if the engine number is interrupted), and in the worst case, you will have to sell the car for parts, since the Gai will not return the documents, this car cannot be put or removed from the register (you can only reject it) and drive it at the same time it is forbidden. Things are sad.

    Let's start with the fact that many drivers from different countries, however, today not everyone is fully competent in this matter.

    Moreover, a rather ambiguous situation has developed in the Russian Federation, that is, this problem directly affected Russian motorists. The fact is that several years ago, at the legislative level, there was no need to verify the engine number as part of the vehicle for registration or when passing MOT.

    In other words, the traffic police could not refuse registration (registration) due to the absence or inconsistency of the engine number in the vehicle registration. Car enthusiasts gladly accepted this initiative, since, in fact, the engine could be considered a regular spare part and, if necessary, freely change a badly worn or broken unit to a similar one.

    However, in practice, everything turned out to be somewhat different. A common situation has become such when the owners are faced with a refusal when trying to register a car with the traffic police, and the reason is precisely the mismatch of the engine number. In this article, we will talk about the problems and difficulties buying a car that does not have an engine number in the TCP, the engine number does not match, the engine number is cut down, rusted or badly damaged.

    Read in this article

    First of all, it is important to understand that the installation of the so-called "off-standard" engine is an independent modification of the vehicle. Naturally, after such a replacement of the motor for the registration of the vehicle, it can be refused on completely legal grounds.

    To put it simply, with a new motor, which is usually deliberately selected more powerful than the standard one, a number of the most important technical characteristics car. At the same time, such transport and its systems must be specially modified, otherwise register and drive this vehicle onto the roads common use will not work.

    It's another matter if the motor was replaced with an absolutely similar one, that is, no changes to the standard factory design occurred. The only controversial point will be a different number of the power unit. Now let's move on to the problem itself.

    In 2011, the order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation No. 28 was issued. If you do not go into details, the specified order contained changes that provided for the refusal of the need to verify when registering a car with an engine number. Then, in 2013, the order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation No. 605 was issued, which approved the new Administrative Regulations of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation for the provision of state registration of vehicles.

    So, in the new order there are no longer any indications that the engine number does not need to be verified, and the inconsistency of the numbered units with the submitted documents serves as a basis for refusing registration. It turns out that the situation is twofold. On the one hand, the first order allowed replacing the engine with exactly the same unit, but then the second order prohibited this.

    As a result, from 2011 to 2013, all cars on which the internal combustion engine was replaced cannot be registered, that is, officially registered. So, if a used car is purchased, on which the engine was replaced, but there are no corresponding marks in the TCP, difficulties arise. To make matters worse, the requirements differ from one area to another.

    In practice, it looks like this. In one region of the Russian Federation, the Traffic Police Department does not see any problem when registering a vehicle with a replaced engine (provided that the replacement is made with the same engine). Accordingly, no marks are put in the PTS, no additional documents are required, the mismatching engine number does not affect the procedure for state registration of the vehicle.

    However, if you contact the traffic police in another area to re-register the vehicle, you can get a refusal due to engine replacement. Employees refer to Clause 24 of the Administrative Regulations (Appendix No. 1 to Order No. 605). It is also noteworthy that in many cases the engine number is not indicated in the valid vehicle registration certificate, and in the application for registration, the vehicle information section also does not have a column for indicating the engine number (only the engine power is indicated).

    An equally difficult situation is when the engine is replaced, but the number of the engine in the TCP is different. It would seem that it is enough to write a statement to the traffic police so that the corresponding changes in the form of a new ICE number were made to the TCP. In practice, this is real, but for such actions you need to mandatory provide documents for a new engine.

    In other words, the legality of the donor motor purchase must be documented. If there are no such documents, then it will not be possible to change the number of the power unit in the TCP, and on the basis of the inconsistency of the number, further registration of the vehicle will be refused.

    We also add that the statements of many owners that during registration the expert did not look at the engine number and the car was registered does not mean that this happens in 100% of cases. Yes, on modern cars getting to the room is not always easy, sometimes you have to remove part attachments etc.

    If we consider that the owner of the vehicle is not obliged to do this on his own, and the expert simply does not want to engage in such work, then it is clear how cars are registered without checking the engine number.

    However, you cannot rely solely on luck. On many cars, you do not need to disassemble anything, that is, it is not difficult to check the number of the internal combustion engine. In simple words if in the same region the number power plant do not check, in another, difficulties may well arise, it is easy to get to the number on one car, on the other it is difficult to access the number panel.

    I would like to note that if a decision is made to buy contract engine and make a swap, you first need to write a corresponding statement and clarify the information regarding what documents will be needed for the further registration of a new engine.

    Then you can purchase and put on the machine a contract unit, taking into account the preservation of all required documents... After that, you should re-apply to the traffic police to register new motor... Of course, if this is not done, then the owner may not have any problems during further operation. However, when trying to cross the border or re-register such a car, the situation often changes.

    Once again, we note that a motor swap for tuning and increasing power is done on cars that participate in sports competitions. As a rule, such vehicles do not move on public roads. If such changes in the design of a car are officially registered, then, taking into account the recommended complex improvements, the total cost of such tuning can be very high.

    What is the bottom line

    Having studied the real situations that Russian car owners face in practice, several important conclusions can be drawn. The main thing is to clearly understand that although the motor number may not be indicated anywhere, it is still in the traffic police database. In view of the above, it becomes clear that even before buying a used car, you need to know, if there is no engine number, what to do in this case. It is quite obvious that it is better to refuse to purchase such a vehicle right away.

    The same can be said about those cases when in PTS number there is only one motor, and the machine has a unit with a different number. Even if the seller refers to the fact that registration actions with this car have already been carried out several times before and there were no problems, this does not mean that they will not arise when trying to register a car in another area.

    Finally, we note that one of the ways to get out of this situation for those who have already bought a problem car is the official purchase of another contract motor. Then the so-called "official" swap is made, when all the necessary documents for a new engine are submitted to the traffic police, appropriate changes are made to the vehicle registration and so on.

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    How to find the engine number on the power unit or elsewhere under the hood of the vehicle. The location of the motor number on popular car models.

    Oxidation processes have a negative impact on different parts of the body, internal combustion engine and other elements of the vehicle. In such a situation, the surfaces with applied identification information, where the VIN code or engine number is located, may be affected.

    During long-term operation of the machine, situations arise when it is not readable. And this becomes a problem, because when selling and re-registering a car, there may be difficulties with registration. In the world practice of most countries, the power plant is classified as a consumable item, as well as a gearbox or a transfer case. However, in domestic conditions, our legislation provides for some restrictions in this area.

    The dualism of automotive legislation

    The practice of not entering the engine number into the vehicle title does not always lead to a positive outcome. Theoretically, the car owner has the right to replace the outdated internal combustion engine with a new one. The reasons for this can be different:

    • the car and received physical damage to the engine;
    • the engine is worn out and worn out;
    • the owner of the car wants a more powerful car.


    The main regulatory document referred to by the traffic police inspectors when registering or re-registering vehicles is the Order of the Ministry of Internal Affairs No. 1001 dated June 29, 2017, which expands the list of grounds for refusals to perform registration actions. Difficulties will appear in the following cases:

    • traffic police officers identified clear signs changes, alterations or hiding of numbers;
    • there is evidence of destruction of vehicle identification numbers, including physical identifiers of units or assemblies, which include the frame, cabin, body, internal combustion engine;
    • there are signs of forgery;
    • revealed inconsistencies between the installed units and registration data;
    • aggregates were installed from stolen, stolen, lost or present ones.


    At the same time, there are exceptions that help to understand whether it is possible to drive on public roads in cars with unreadable characters. The operation of machines with problematic markings is permissible in a number of cases:

    • on numbered units, the marking is damaged due to normal wear and tear,;
    • the car has been repaired;
    • the vehicle was returned to the owner after theft (theft), but after the mandatory identification procedure.

    IMPORTANT! The justified reason for refusing registration measures is the impossibility of identifying the car after replacing the numbered elements of the frame or body, when the identification numbers applied by the manufacturer during the production of the car were lost.

    In the interpretation normative documents The traffic police regarding the unconditional refusal to register the car, there is no point in which the process is blocked due to problems with the internal combustion engine number. There is a possibility of sending it for additional examination.

    Should I buy a car with a problematic ICE number?

    The practice of motorists shows that in different regions of the country, traffic police inspectors may differently treat cars with modified internal combustion engine numbers. In some cases, the inspector does not see a clear threat in the fact that the marking is unreadable or the engine has been replaced. Even the marks in the additional column of the TCP may be absent, and the re-registration procedure within the region will take place as usual.


    Not all law enforcement officers want to get to the reading of information from the power plant in the event that the process involves the removal of attachments. Not all machines have easy access to this information.

    Difficulties may arise during registration activities in other areas. A more thorough check may be carried out against electronic databases, which indicate, among other parameters, for example, power, engine number. And for an engine with an unreadable number, problems may arise during registration.

    When the number is poorly visible or it is difficult to read, the car owner can, carefully using weakly concentrated solvents, clean the surface. Thus, the information content of the unit will be ensured. Do not use excessive force to avoid damaging the lettering remnants with aggressive preparations.

    When buying a car with a complicated reading of the engine number, you need to know what to do. We recommend that you ask the seller for supporting documents by which it is possible to identify the node. It is also worth consulting with a forensic expert, and, if necessary, carry out an examination and receive an appropriate coupon from a specialist confirming the "cleanliness" of the car. Leave a comment about your experience with problem license plates on the ICE.

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