Kia Sportage finding problems. Is it worth buying a used Kia Sportage of the third generation? Typical faults Kia Sportyj

Reviews about Kia Sportage.:

Appearance:

• Solid Five - Stylish, Fashion Machine - German Design Drew. Especially in rear like.

In the cabin:

• Beautiful front seats - the proper stands, I have a spin sick, but I go without problems
  
• High landing, which gives it clear what advantages - look forward through the nearest car. And generally sit pleasant - like a king in the name day.
  
• Very much like salon, stove, frost heat, like in Singapore, turn on the stove
• thoughtful workplace driver, all at hand, all by the mind and somehow cozy
• Stereo system is very good. There is an amplifier, sub, six columns. The sound is quite worthy
• full music with control on the steering wheel - Hood

• The quality of the assembly, of course, is not Japanese. Immediately how you sit down, it can be seen: not Japan. Sluts around, some of the seats are sticking out.

• So-so closes the trunk
• The trunk is not exactly small, but I would like significantly more
• Salon spacious, but on the trunk saved

Paintwork:

• Weak paint: All traces of branches are yours, and are visible on the varnish strongly (the car is black). This, I think, not only KIA Sportage problem, is the majority of Koreans so
• i'm not dragging from paint coating - some kind of soft, scratching easily - what annoys, it turns out - the washing with his hands in no case and in the forest or wheels

Controllability:

• on the road stands confidently, in the winter there is no questions to the movement at all, rides the string
  
• The main surprise controllability. Among the crossovers are so cool
• for an SUV handling perfect

Soft progress:

• The suspension is worthy, all road problems swallows.
  
• In frost rear suspension Sorry strongly, it seems like on Uazuka. In the service they say - Kia Sportage is a disease
• Cons - Hard ass, if you drive one or with a passenger on the front. If someone is sitting behind or some cargo in the trunk - goes like Mercedes

Life:

• the engine is quite dynamic. On the track with overtaking overclocking is very pleasant
• The dynamics are quite worthy if on cars - then it is like something medium sized engine 1.6-1.8 rides

Transmission:

• Mechanics is so-so, the quality of execution is not a fountain. Switching fuzzy, moves are long, rear only with second times sticking.
• The lever of the checkpoint has what moves, as weighing row
• Staraya automatic transmission, thoughtful in switching, kick-down slow

Brakes:

• Brakes are very sharp, but used

• after Renault Sitting on the seating, I really almost wooer at first. As if there is no them
  
• Brakes are completely non-informative. Davish-Davish, Davish-Davish, Aaaa! We all die! Here she is clapping and got up

Noise insulation:

• Noise insulation was pleasantly surprised. She is probably not worse than in very more expensive SUVs
  
• Noise insulation - a fairy tale, finally, do not shout in the salon at speed

Reliability:

• When I read reviews, it came out that the car is medium-sufficient reliability, without any problems. In life, it turned out much better, in two years it did not even change the bulbs in two years.
• The car is quite reliable. For 5 years under the hood climbed only the level of oil check and fill the glass maker
• To 8,000 km run on the service was once, probably 7, somehow much. Kaliningrad, in one word

Patency:

• Patency is cool, tested in the dirt almost knee-deep and in the same snow
• I love dirt knead. If you did not sit on her belly, then everything will be fine
  
• On the rays of the rain, the primer will somehow 2 km to the track, another b the car only in the morning the tractor would be pulled out

Cost:

• Consumption from Novya was under 15, then dropped to 13, now somewhere around 10-11 liters per hundred, it is if approximately in half the city and the countryside. In principle, for the SUV is acceptable. The manual write - there must be 9, but then in the manual.
• Consumption of 13 l / 100 km by traffic jams seems to me quite reasonable
• On the highway, I go 130-160 km /, gasoline eats about 13 liters. And here - separate

In Frost:

• Frost will start without any problems.
• Start without problems in any frost to -45, just not a button, but from the ignition key

Other details:

• On the crash tests, sporting was overtaken even Volvo, so if you are looking for safe machine - that's her
• Excellent machine liquidity
• Bad visibility: window in rear door Small, parking uncomfortable.
• The front racks are tremendous and wide, very scary pedestrian not to notice!
• Many write about problems C adjustable driver's seat Up-down - so yes, it raised - it gradually goes away goes away. Minus Kia Sportage.

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05.10.2014

Kia Sportage (Kia Sports / Sportage), release of 2013. Customer Claims:
- ABS system light bulb on the instrument panel
- ESP light bulb on the instrument panel
- On the instrument panel, a malfunction of the "Assistant Attaching Torture" is lit

Surprised, asked the client:
- The car is still on the maintenance of dealers, they turned to them?

The owner of the car nodded and replied that, yes, he applied, they kindly and quickly drove the car for repairs, they did something for half an hour, then they gave. At the time of departure, everything worked. But after some time, the faults appeared again. The client decided not to tempt fate and through the Internet and acquaintances found our car service.

In addition to the listed faults, the machine was impossible to turn on the transmission, the box lever was blocked and it was necessary to unlock it forcibly, manually.

The situation is interesting, but before you load your head with different difficulties - let's start with simple?

For example, from "Assistant Torture on Lift". Good function. And not only for "blondes", people say that the function is necessary and helps. What is the principle of work? This "assistant" helps when driving a car on the lines to transfer foot from the brake pedal to the gas pedal (accelerator) without additional help parking brake - The system maintains pressure in brake system A couple of seconds, which is enough to touch on the rise without problems.

First bell: "brake pedal". When the "Assistant" is working, a brake pedal is involved, it is necessary to see how it works and the electrical chains associated with it. I click on the brake pedal - rear lights Do not burn. It is clear that it is impossible to ride ...

(Why Motordata: Because it was easier to reach it at that moment, she always hangs and uploaded. Also, other programs - "hang and open", where to reach faster, there and look. Naturally, if on the topic of the question) .

So, on the spot I already watch fuses, I see that we needed - burnt. To put another same and again check by pressing the brake?

(... I often read in the Internet: "- And I do not bother! The fuse burned down - I put a new to check. If he burned down - then I look at the fuse, and only then on the whole chain ...".

In my opinion, so do wrong - it is better to use the "load", a 55-watt light bulb that is connected instead of a fuse. Take time, money, mood and reputation.

On this machine: "Init up the load - the light bulb is off. Pressed on the brake - the light tanned brightly, full of heat. What conclusion? Somewhere the closure that you need to look for "(most likely a VZHGUT, which goes to stop signals).

This electric harness passes to the left of the driver's foot, in the hole. I reveal and not even surprise. Just assessed the situation. I expected similar. Well, how not to make a photo of this monument to work masters from dealer Center?

See: The arrow shows on the wire, which paved the crucial specialist. It is crucial, do not mind. And the wire lies exactly as followed - entering the deepening in the hole. What kind of deepening? They guessed, probably - the clip is inserted here. I pulled this wire lightly, and here they are the consequences of inattention, which brazenly climb into the wallet of the car owner:

However, I do not want to finish this story on a sad note, voice the Council: "If a car came to the repair from a dealer or from another car service, then ask the client first:" What did they do? ".

There is such a good practice: "a step back." - Installed alarm or some "extra"? And in what place? There? Thank you!
We open the thresholds (for example) and here it is a crucial malfunction!

Good luck everyone!

P.S. Of course, speaking on universal justice, from one or two cases to make global conclusions about all dealers are not worth it. Well, yes, the case fell, well, yes - "from the dealer." But with the same success, such malfunctions can come and not from the dealer - they can create any other crucial auto electricity (exactly "crucial" and it is to "create").

P.P.S. In his story a couple of times used the word "crucial". It is interested: "How many times have you already talked about this?". It turns out - many times! I will give the off town only three examples (in articles on the portal of the Legion Avtodat: They are much more).
- "Car repair. Recipe of happiness." -
- "Nissan Cedric / Gloria Y34 VQ30DD NEODI and Error P1145" -
- "FIAT DOBLO 1.3 (Dairy filter, turbocharger)" -

Kia Sportage 3. Losses motor oil

Causes of Motor Oil Loss

Sometimes the cause of too fast reduction in the level of engine oil may be its leakage. In this case, the first and necessary action will be the inspection and replacement of worn items responsible for tightness - seals, gaskets, etc. It is not always possible to notice the flow during surface inspection, but the consequences of such a breakdown, even without taking into account additional spending on the engine oil, can be quite serious. Therefore, each driver should immediately apply to the maintenance station in cases where the flow rate exceeds the indicators declared in the service documentation for the car. Each car requires care, and how efficiently the machine will work for a long time, largely depends on its owner. Proper selection lubricantcorresponding to the required viscosity classes and operational specifications, oil level control, and its timely replacement And regular technical inspections are able to protect your car from a variety of potential breakdowns.

Elevated motor oil consumption

The consumption of lubricant material is influenced by such factors as the state of gaps in the cylinder-portion group (with time, natural wear is possible, which leads to an increase in oil consumption), correctness of the settings and engine adjustments, pressure in the crankcase and disruption of tightness at those points of the compounds that have seals or rubber hoses, etc. Do not forget about driving style: the prevailing operating regimes have a significant effect on the oil consumption. Of course, important criteria are the correct selection of engine oil and compliance with its replacement. Oils that do not match tolerances are not able to ensure the effective protection of the engine parts, which leads to increased wear and, as a result, the motor failure. In addition, if in car Engine Ultimate, contaminated or exhaust oil is used, then oil foam can be formed when the shaft rotates, which rises through the ventilation system in the direction of the intake system. This not only leads to an oil overputs, but also can cause the inability to the system.

What oil consumption in the engine should be normal

The lubrication consumption is one of the important indicators of the overall state of the engine. From some car owners, you can hear that the engine does not take oil, that is, the level remains the same or stored in permissible limits from replacement to replacement.

Others mark an increased or large oil consumption in the engine, which causes the need to top up the lubricant. Immediately note, the manufacturers themselves themselves separately indicate the oil consumption norms in the engine. This means that the power unit can spend lubricant within certain limits, and this consumption is not a malfunction.
This phenomenon is customary to be called oil flow rate. However, the excess of the oil plot rate into the engine may well indicate the occurrence of DVS problems, the inconsistency of the lubricant to the tolerances and recommendations of the motor manufacturer, etc.

In this article, we will look at what "oil appetite" of various power units can be considered permissible, as well as what factors and features affect the consumption of lubricant in the engine.

All engines to a greater or lesser degree consuming engine oil. This happens, taking into account the design features of the DVS design, namely, because of the acute need to lubricate the nodes and parts of the CPG. In other words, the main loss of lubricant material occur as a result of the fact that it is necessary to supply lubrication on the walls of the cylinders.

This area in the engine is a thermal loaded area. For this reason, partial evaporation and combustion of lubrication occurs. Also, part of the oil is not removed from the walls of cylinders with piston rings, as a result of which the remaining lubricant is lit together with the fuel in the combustion chamber.

As a rule, in modern engines, the claimed oil consumption is, on average, from 0.1 to 0.3% of the total fuel consumption, which was spent to overcome any segment of the path. It turns out if the car passed 100 km., Consumption is 10 liters of fuel, then the norm will also be consumption, on average, 20 grams of oil.
It turns out, lubrication consumption can be considered permissible if it does not exceed about 3 liters. For 10 thousand kilometers past. It is also important to understand that the flow rate will be highly dependent on the type of engine, the degree of its forcing, etc.

For example, for many gasoline atmospheric, the norm is the mark of about 0.1%. On gasoline turbogides, the flow rate is noticeably higher. As for the diesel engine, the claimed lubrication consumption will normally be greater than any gasoline analogue and is, on average, from 0.8 to 3%. Specified 3% consume forced turbo diesel engines with two turbines, etc.

You can also separately mention the rotor motors, which are distinguished by a special inclination to the consumption of lubricating fluid. Such aggregates (taking into account their fully operational state) consume about 1-1.2 liters of oil per 1000 km. Run. For reference, in manuals to different engines it is indicated that the norm of oil consumption on the avgar is 1 liter for 3 thousand people traveled, that is, about 3 liters per 10 thousand km.
At the same time, manufacturers also note that consumption directly depends on technical status DVS and on the features of the operation of a specific TC (load on the unit, speed, etc.)

What does oil consumption depend on the engine and how to reduce it

As mentioned above, the oil is consumed in any engine, as the oil film on the details for protection against dry friction burns in the chamber with the fuel charge. If you add to this Natural DVS wear during operation, then the lubricant consumption further increases.

However, it becomes quite obvious that 3 liters of oil by 10 thousand km. For smallness with a row atmospheric, it can be considered a large consumption, while the powerful unit with a large working volume is a completely permissible indicator. Practice shows that even if the engine began "to eat" the oil above the norm, it is more costly advantageous to simply add lubricant than immediately making the motor overhaul only due to increased flow.
The fact is that many hundred wizards prefer not to diagnose a separate cause increased flow Oils, and immediately offer the owner to make a overhaul. It is important to take into account that it is not always necessary in such an expensive repair.

First of all, lubrication consumption can be increased due to the fact that the oil flows out of the motor. In this case, it is enough to replace the gaskets and glands. As a rule, you need to pay attention to the gasket valve cover, cylinder head gasket, front and rear crankshaft seal, camshaft glands, valve glands, etc.
In various situations, the lubricant can flow along the outer surface (to flow out), as well as penetrate other systems. For example, if the oil flows between the box and the engine, the crankshaft gland is to blame, and a rude can be formed under the car.

If the problem is gLP gasketThe outside of the flows may not be, the engine will be dry. In this case, the lubricant will fall into the coolant, the coolant will also begin the engine oil will also begin to foam, an emulsion will appear on the lid of the oil-tapping neck.

If the oil is actively spent in the motor on the avgar, from exhaust pipe There will be a naizy oily smoke. In this case, especially compared with the flow, determine the cause without disassembling the engine is much more complicated.
However, in such a situation with the ugar, you can try to fight before agreeing to repairs. First of all, the lubrication consumption depends on the mode of operation of the motor. In other words, riding on high speed leads to an increase in temperature and loads, the oil is diluted, it is worse removed by rings from the walls of cylinders, emanates, etc.

It is also important to understand that the lubricant may not be suitable for the engine according to certain parameters. This means that you need to know which oil to choose for the engine and what features need to be considered.
If the motor is worn, then in parallel you need to take into account and features of the selection of oils for engines with a large mileage. In a nutshell, the material with a reduced viscosity forms a thin film that masonry rings Could not remove from the walls. If the lubricant is thick, then the film is very thick, while the rings cannot remove such a layer in full.
Taking into account the above, it becomes clear that it is necessary to use the most suitable oil both for admission and in the index of high-temperature viscosity. For example, from the list of recommended lubricants in the manual, you need to choose a product with a higher viscosity compared to the fact that it is currently flooded.

You can also go with synthetics on semi-synthetic, which also in some cases reduces lubrication consumption. The main thing is that such semi-synthetic is allowed to use in a particular engine and complied with the recommendations of the motor manufacturer.

The oil-free caps (valve glands, oil reflective caps) are also an element, problems with which the oil appetite of the unit increases.
At the same time, on many ICA, the replacement of the caps can be performed without removing the GBC, the cost of spare parts is very insignificant. The consumption of lubrication after replacement in some cases is significantly reduced.
The main reason for the failure of the valve seals is their drying and solidification, since the elements are made of rubber. Also on the glands can affect and unsuitable for motor Oilaggressively affecting rubber.

Wear piston rings Often in symptoms are similar to their location. If in the first case, the rings need to be changed, that is, the disassembly and repair of the engine will be required, then in the second it is possible to cut the piston rings.
If simply, the cluster of nagar and coke does not allow the ring to move in the groove, that is, the rings lay down. Reducing mobility means that the ring does not perform its function, oil is poorly removed from the walls and treats the combustion chamber.

To solve the problem there are washes that are poured into the lubricant system. Wash oil can also be used. Radical way is such when candleys Fall special composition For cutting the piston rings.
Each of the solutions has both its advantages and disadvantages, however, for a worn engine, in many cases, it is possible to reduce the consumption of lubrication and extend the life of the motor to overhaul.

Increased pressure in the crankcase also causes the recalculation of lubricant material. Simple words, High pressure of crankcase gases makes oil to be placed where it should not be.
As a result, the lubricant enters the cylinders through the inlet, after which he burns in the engine along with the fuel. In such a situation, you need to diagnose and clean the crankcase ventilation system.

Problems with a turbocharger also lead to the fact that lubricant leaks appear in the supercharger area, the oil also penetrates the cylinders through the inlet, etc.
To solve, a diagnosis and repair of the turbine is necessary. In the extreme case, you can replace the turbocharger, while the consumption of lubricant material will also decrease.

Eventually

The main reason for the motor overhaul is the presence of significant defects and damage, as well as high wear of parts and production on the walls of the cylinders (zadira, change geometry, etc.).

In this case, eliminate the "Jort" oil only with a cutoff, replacement of the rings, masonry Caps Or the transition to more viscous lubricant will not work. Typically, engines with such damage have low compression, they are poorly growing both on the cold and hot, significantly lose power.

During the operation of the unit, knocks and extraneous noises may be present. As a rule, after disassembly and defecting, the block needs to be removed / giln, perform the grinding of the crankshaft, etc. In other words, it is necessary overhaul.

If the engine is worn out, but it works fine, while the oil consumption is higher than the norm, then it is not worth the instant increase in the lubrication consumption. Lubricant will be spent more and more, but this problem will progress will be slow.
It turns out that adding multiple lizats for every 10 thousand km. It will allow to exploit such a motor not yet one tens of thousand kilometers without overhaul (if there are no other breakdowns). At the same time, the lubricant is more profitable to pour out than to repair the motor.

Additionally, the use of more viscous oil, replacement of valve seals and cleaning the crankcase ventilation system will help reduce the total consumption of lubricant material and maintenance and maintenance costs.

In Russian club forums and social networks, alarming bells about the reliability of the 2.0-liter Kia / Hyundai G4KD motor, associated with the appearance of the knocks in the cylindropional group (CPG), began to appear on social networks. At the same time, in Belarus about problems with these motors, it is not heard. What is this - features of Russian operating, as some say, or still technological miscalculation? To find out, journalists ABW.BY gathered several cars and sent them to the Endoscopy of the CPG.

Let's start with the fact that the engines "clones" G4KD (THAETA II) and 4B11 are built on the architecture of the Global Engine Alliance - the Alliance created by Corporations Chrysler, Mitsubishi and Hyundai, but at the initiative of Hyundai. Each company introduced some adjustments to their brand, but the architecture remained uniform. The main part of the development was carried out by Hyundai.

The motor is completely aluminum, contains four valves per cylinder, two camshafts in the cylinder head (DOHC), as well as a system for changing the phase distribution with electronically control Mivec (intake and release). Respectively on Korean cars letter notation - G4KD, on Japanese - 4B11. Motor was put on Kia Cerato, Kia Optima, Kia Sportage, Hyundai Elantra, Hyundai IX35, Hyundai Sonata., Mitsubishi Lancer., Mitsubishi Outlander, Mitsubishi ASX and numerous American and Dodge products.

On the basis of this unit, the engine G4KE (Theta II) / 4B12 with a working volume of 2.4 liters was created. In addition, on the basis of 4B11, 4B11T Turbops was created for sports Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution and Mitsubishi Lancer Ralliart.

"I recently addressed the owner of the negarantine Kia Sportage," says the car master from Minsk. "The car arrived from Russia a year ago, there are all service documents - served at the dealer. Here the owner did not drive 8,000 kilometers. After 120 thousand ordinary operation, the engine boomed. Initially, the owner went to the Hyundai dealer. They listened the car, they said that the piston was knocking, they say, the burdens, the motor will be shifted, piston change - we know about the problem ... We did not believe, went to endoscopy. It turns out that the guys from Hyundai were right . What I saw is normal for old engines with runs of 400-600 thousand working on Tine, with a leaky toe instead air filterBut not at a four-year-old KIA with a careful mileage of 120 thousand. Cylinder walls in jackets, long, abundant and ugly. So far, there are still shallow, as it stumbled recently, approximately kilometers of 500 years ago. Memorial compression showed 13-12-13-13. That is, the motor is still "alive", but in the second cylinder there is already pressure drops. Another 10 thousand kilometers, and will consume butter on the avgar and the "sampling" in the oil refining neck. After 50 thousand it trips and "die." If not evincible before. "

Having removed the pallet and finding the metal powder in it, the motor was dismantled and dismantled. It turned out that the jacies are present in all cylinders on the front and rear walls. At the same time, the most damage in the second, third and fourth "pots".

It goes without saying, pistons suffered. Running on the Internet, they found out that the case is not alleged.

On the Russian Forum of the Kia Club forum already 640 (!) Pages of discussion of this issue, there are many cases of problems with the CPG G4KD, and there are suspiciously many videos about Zadira and Korean Motor Videos in Youtube. The symptoms are as follows: in the period 50.000-150.000 km the engine appears on the cold "on the cold". With mighties, the knock is enhanced and stops disappearing as it warked. The autopsy shows the presence of jackets on the "skirts" of the pistons and the walls of the cylinders. And it does not matter where the car was served, at the dealer, on third parties or in the garages.

What is interesting, in the US, there was even an revocable campaign, touched half a million (!) Machines with engines of Theta II series, in which the engine indicated by us. In addition, a campaign was conducted to extend the guarantees on the engines. But there is a slightly different problem associated with blocking metal chips of oil channels, which led to oil starvation and stop of the motor.

Nevertheless, in Belarus sold a large number of Korean cars with these engines, and it seems to be heard about our forums about the problem, unlike Russian forums. Initially abw.by found out about the question of the history with the Kia Sportage engine from the Minsk Automaster: It seems that the mileage is small, and the motor has already demanded repairs due to the jackets.

To find out if these problems are not inflated, ABW.BY contacted Kia Sportage Fans Club.

In total, four cars were found in Minsk (in two cases, the knocks were already "on hot"), of which three cars eventually took part in our "disassembly". Also invited the owners of two cars with a mileage of 70.000 and 140.000 km, which were not complained about the knocks.

Endoscope has problems. Saved from Russia "Video Wheel Pro" does not see the walls of the cylinders. It turns out that endoscopes in Minsk can be considered, no. There is only an individual entrepreneur, a car machine with an experience, which is engaged in engine endoscopy. By the way, it was almost a month ago a car was diagnosed, the internal content of the engine of which was shown at the beginning of the article.

Endoscope at the Master Special Medical. The probe can be rotated in any direction and bending with special "twist". The walls of the cylinders are visible very well. But the problem is that the device does not make a photo. There are two more Chinese electronic endoscope, but problems arose with them in the process of work. In general, we look at the cylinders with a medical optical endoscope.

The first inspected car of 2011 was already driving 87,000 km. Purchased new in the Belarusian dealer, after which was operated by one owner. After the end of the warranty, the stuffs "on the cold" appeared. Over time, they were present and after the engine warming, the truth is noticeably quieter. At the same time, small vibrations began to be felt before warming the motor.

The owner of the day before the experiment visited the KIA official dealer service station. The endoscope of the "official" was not found, but the mechanics on the hearing were determined that in the cylinders of the jackets. Like, that's famous problem, you need to open the engine and change the cylinder block worth about $ 4000.

The owner claims that it goes well, the first kilometers presses the "gas" carefully. The car is serviced at the dealer in a timely manner. Moreover, he even reduced the interval from 15,000 to 10.000-12.000 km. In Carter, then the oil, which is recommended by our dealer, is Motul 8100 5W30.

Remove the coils, get the candle. And we see that the insulators of candles are punched. What is interesting, this picture was observed in all viewed Sportage, where NGK candles were used.

Moreover, even the candles that have been replaced less than 10,000 km back. The regulations of their replacement - as much as 30,000 km. Lot. But on one machine there were whole Bosch, so, most likely, the case is in the candlelight.

We look at the endoscope in the cylinders - we discover the strong incommensuits in the second and third cylinders, which, a total of two sides, occupy almost 2/3 of the entire circumference. In the fourth there are less than, but they are. The first cylinder is clean. According to the vehicle, he did not see scores in the upper part of the cylinders, which says that the scratches leave the "skirt" of the piston.

Running ahead: Nagar on the bottom of the pistons is found in all machines, somewhere less, somewhere else. The amount of deposits Master qualifies as "average", but on these runs there should be no such picture at all.
What's next? Over time, the problem progresses. The knocks will be enhanced, the strong maslip will begin. After a while, the motor will simply stop starting. Expensive repair of the engine (replacement of the cylinder block or sleeve) is no longer avoided. When it happens exactly, it is difficult to say.

The next car is 2011. Also bought in Minsk. At the moment, the mileage is 109.000 km, the warranty is over. The owner is concerned about the knocking "on the cold". The car was serviced on time, in the frost, a short time he warmed up, driving style calm. Total and Zic 5W30 oils were used. The dealer stopped serviced after the third that.

However, listen - the knock is perfectly audible and "on the hot". From all cars here we heard the most loud and clear knock. But even it is not heard in the cabin after heating.

As expected, the jackets were found in all cylinders. Moreover, the most problems in the second and third, where the bulbs are located on a large area around the circumference of the front and rear walls. In the first and fourth cylinders, there are fewer problems, although the loops are concentrated relatively in a small zone from the exhaust manifold, but they are very deep. Nagara on the bottom of the engine pistons of this car Most. In general, the most running option. But, according to the owner, Zhora oil seems to be not yet.

On the knock owner next car did not complain. The mileage is only 76.000 km, the year of release - 2012, the owner bought it in Russia, when there were 42,000 km on the odometer. The service book with marks about the passage is in stock. In Russia poured shell oil 5W30 times at 11.000-12.000 km, in Belarus, the Kroon-Oil 5W30 oil is changed at 7000-8,000 km. Original orders are, original spare parts were used, so the owner hopes to preserve the guarantee in Russia.

In the first cylinder there are no loans, but in the fourth they showed strong scratches in a small zone from the exhaust manifold. In the second and third - small bully from the issue. At the knocks, the owner did not complain, but the motorist still heard "on the cold" small "clan". There is no oil consumption.

The next car came from Russia in 2015. At the time of purchase, the mileage was 86.000 km, now 115.000. The knocks after starting the engine appeared when the owner read the forums. Yes, maybe many people simply do not hear them.

The presence of problems in the cylinders was confirmed. On the walls of the second and third cylinders - the middle jackets from the exhaust manifold. The first cylinder is clean, in the fourth there is a pair of scratches on the back wall. Nagara relative to other machines is a bit, but still clearly not at 115.000 km of mileage.

It was this car that journalists tried to remove Chinese USB endoscopes. The first saw only the piston, the second one was recorded vertical scratches on the wall of the cylinder. True, rotate the camera managed to a small angle, so the wall is visible only at the very bottom. After five minutes of attempts, the probe overheated and the device turned off forever.

By the way, pay attention to the ends of the candle housing. It is in the second and third candles that carbon deposits are noticeable. So, if you have suspicion of jackets in G4KD, but there is no endoscope, you can try to unscrew the candles and look at the ends of the case. Black sediments will say that in the cylindropional group is not all right.

In general, the car is still driving, how much will erupt - it is unknown, but the problems have already begun.

Black Sportage 2012 I ran the most - 140.000 km, bought with a mileage of 40,000 km in Russia. There is practically nothing about maintenance there. The first fusion oil was surprised by the owner: according to the form or did not change it for a very long time, or it was counterfeit. The sticker says that shell oil was pouring. After purchase, the owner uses Zic 5W30. On the oil probe, the black crust of sediments was formed - the owner had to count it for a long time. The engine sounded very loud, but after the service began to work fine.

In Belarus, the car was serviced properly and in a timely manner, but the owner admits that he loves to press the Gaza pedal well. True, it makes it only after a complete engine warming up, before that it goes carefully. Also installed autorun, so the engine in front of the start is heated for some time at idle.

The owner did not declare any foreign sounds, it was a completely random car, but "on the cold" knocks still audible.

We looked at the oil level, they estimated which it was 5000 km back, - a small consumption is still present, approximately 200-250 g for 5000 km.

In the first cylinder only one scratch. The second cylinder from the output is medium-sized jackets, and the same as the previous car. In the third cylinder, medium scratches are located on both sides, in the fourth - only on the back wall, but deep enough. The angle of accommodation is 15-20 °.

Carbon deposits are on the ends of three candles, except for one - the first cylinder, on the wall of which only one scratch.

What is the result? We disassembled one engine. There were five more engines - they discovered loops in all. In three out of five cases, the owners declared the presence of a knocks - these cars were taken on endoscopy specifically to find out the reason for the knocks. The other two are chosen completely by chance, about the knocks and any problems the owners did not speak.

To be honest, it is strange that in all three cars with the stated presence of foreign sounds there will be any problems. After all, it can knock anything or not to knock. Car enthusiast can take for outsided sounds The usual shock is nozzles, problems with the timing drive or the operation of non-regulated valves, since there are no hydrocompensators at G4KD, the valves must be adjusted. But no, in three cars - Zadira. In addition, they showed out in cars whose owners did not hear any knocks ... And another car with a knock and did not reach the endoscopy. In general, it is surprising.

Any pattern of identifying could not be revealed. Carters from these engines are distinguished: there is both 4-liter and 6-liter. On the inspection, there were mainly cars with a filling capacity of 6 l, but it is unlikely to influence something. Oils were used very different. Service, as the owners assure, was carried out only on the regulations, and some of them reduced the oil replacement interval. Two cars were bought in Belarus, four are driven during the favorable course of the ruble from Russia. Some cars were serviced from official dealers, there are service documents, others - on unofficial hundred. "Automatic", "Mechanics"? No matter.

The only thing that was detected - different machines Zadira are developing with different "intensity". At one of them, on mileage 115.000, the beginning of the occurrence of problems, and the second on 87,000 km will soon need to be repaired. Also, judging by the reviews, the problem did not touch the owners of Mitsubishi, under the hood of which a copy of G4KD - 4B11 is installed. At least nothing hear about it.

There is an opinion that the problem lies in poor-quality services russian cars, counterfeit butter, bad gasoline and aggressive ride, especially "on the cold". Of course, illiterate exploitation aggravates the problem, but if it were the main reason, then half of the Belarusian and Russian cars would have stood in line on the engine overhaul.

You can guess about the reason before infinity, besides, we are not Kia or Hyundai engineers, we have no statistical data. But there is an assumption of experienced carkers that everything is fault - a mistake in the calculation of thermal extensions. As it seems to us, the version looks very convincing.

"When designing any engine is calculated and the coefficients of the temperature expansion of the body are calculated," said Aleksandr. - In this case, most likely, we are talking about wrong selection thermal clearance In a pair of "piston - cylinder" or an incorrect choice of piston material and its shape. When the engine is running, especially in the increased range of revolutions, the oil film from the walls of the cylinder is disappeared with the transition to semi-dry friction. The consequence of such an engine operation is jackets or "grab" on the walls of the cylinder. The increase in the gaps in the assemblies of the CPG due to semi-dry friction generates the piston breakdown and the occurrence of the knock in the engine caused by the "skirt" of the piston when the cylinder wall is driven. The situation exacerbates high degree Forcing and temperature engine temperature, visually insufficient area of \u200b\u200bwater channels of the block or insufficient efficiency of the water pump. In favor of this version, it is said that always the most damaged - the second and third cylinders, that is, the most thermally loaded to remove from the water pump. Based on the above, most likely, there is a constructive miscalculation.

Can the incorrect operation of the CU cause such serious problems with the engine? Not. Riding on an immentable engine can be exacerbated, but it cannot be the main cause of a malfunction. In the global engine practice, there are a lot of motors with aluminum blocks, and with the walls of cylinders such problems does not occur. For example, DVS RENAULT / VOLVO B5254 or a turbated six-cylinder version B6284T. The manufacturer is laid by the admission when calculating the CPG, as well as the absence of the need for a special engine running after the assembly.

Does the quality of fuel and fuel affect the occurrence of jackets in the cylinders? No, does not affect. The presence of at least one detonation sensor in the G4KD injection system will not allow the engine to work on fuel mixescausing devastating detonation due to poor-quality fuels. The nature and type of wear can not be caused by detonation, as the "skirt" is damaged, and not the bottom of the piston. There are no plates that burst rings and interclause bulkheads. Quality fuels unreasonable replacement It is expressed in the form of resinous / varnishing sediments on engine parts and cause premature wear of the crankshaft liners, the "liner" of the rings and an increased oil consumption. There were no such problems to reveal such problems. "

Often in the blocks of engines there are oil nozzles, which are designed to water the piston oil from below, thereby cooling them, as well as improving cylinder lubrication. In the atmospheric version of this motor there are no such nozzles, they are only in the turbocharged version of the Japanese 4B11T, as well as in all diesel engines that are put on Sportage. Some motorists believe that it aggravates the situation with the G4KD absence, the piston overheats, which leads to a decrease in the gap.

True, there are engines and without oil nozzles, which do not have problems with jackets. In nozzles, it is difficult or not, it is difficult to say, but at will, you will certainly be embedded in a block with overhaul. It may also possibly help installing a water-oil heat exchanger from the "senior" engine G4KE, as the lack of circulation of oil "on the cold" in winter also exacerbates the situation. True, we did not conduct any calculations and expertise, so all this is only assumptions.

How to solve the problem if the motor staped and began to consume butter on the avgar? Two options are available: or replacing the cylinder block, which is very expensive, or the plot of the block, which is also expensive, but at least it makes sense. The second option is most common. Standard pistons and rings, sleeves (suitable from Toyota), a set of gaskets and other necessary parts for repair will cost, as we counted, about $ 1000. With work and other trifles, there is a round sum: for example, for the repair of Sportage from the very beginning of the article, the owner gave $ 1750 - a lot. At the same time, how many motor passes after the guilzovka, it is not known to anyone, there are enough nuances here, hardly as much as the factory engine. If the car is under warranty - you are saved: there is a chance that the unit will be replaced under warranty.

Replacing the aggregate on the contract? Also an option, but they are still not on sale. And if they appear, they recommend buying such a used unit only after the CPG endoscopy.

It is not yet known whether this problem, the statistics of the automaker and technical examination of journalists do not have. While in Belarus really fixed single cases.

But in any way you need to be guided by a number of recommendations. High-quality oil changes at least once every 10,000 km, to pour only 95th gasoline. On traffic lights forget forever - the heavy loads of this motor, apparently, does not like. It is important to carefully ride until the motor output on operating temperature. At the same time, "in the tension" is also not worth riding, but at the same time the "gas" pedal must literally stroke. Especially careful should be in winter, it is recommended to warm the engine before starting or installing an autonomous heater.

And what will say representatives of the exclusive distributor brands Kia. In the Republic of Belarus, the company "Autopalace-M"?

"In the service of our auto center received single appeals on the specified problem with the G4KD engine. Mostly they were associated with non-compliance with the rules of operation of the car: tough exploitation, ignoring winter conditions, using low-quality fuel and fuel, etc. Almost all appeals - from legal entitiesWhich such attitude to the car prevails.

Warranty obligations are always executed if the Customer's claim is justified. In particular, we, as a rule, cannot prove that the car was tight operation, for example, high speed on the cold engine, then the vehicle assembly is subject to a replacement for warranty. In this case, such cases for the specified engine was very small. There can be no speech about the mass.

We recommend that all car owners carefully read and follow the instruction manual, carefully refer to the recommendations of the masters, to use only high-quality fuel. This Council is universal for owners of any cars with any motors.
Are there any problems with the new generation of crossover? Specified Engine 2.0 was used for the models of the previous Sportage. The new Sportage Qle model, which comes to Belarus from May 2016, is equipped with a new engine. "

Hyunde Avtograd LLC also suggests that cases with jackets in the engines of their Hyundai IX35 are single. Perhaps it is.

While we will not say anything 100%, but the story with G4KD is strange. Yes, six cars are a drop in the sea of \u200b\u200bcars sold with this engine (not only Kia Sportage), we really have a lot. In the Minsk club of Sportage lovers, already 50 cars with runs around 100,000 km. And yet, no one of them did overhaul, most of the owners on the knocks do not complain. Nobody is going to change cars in the club too.

But such noise on the Internet arises for no accident, and the results of our endoscopy of five engines and disassembling one, to put it mildly, surprise. In general, time will show.

// Yuri Gladchuk, ABW.BY

The third generation KIA Sportage can be called one of the most liquid used cars. Former in use Korean crossovers find new owners very quickly. But is it possible to call the Sportage of the third generation also one of the most reliable "passing"? Big question! No matter how much the owners of the Korean crossover are recognized, but serious constructive flaws The car is not deprived.

Possible body problems

The quality of the paint coating KIA Sportage, however, there is no complaints about anyone. Even in the oldest copies, corrosion foci are extremely rare. Nevertheless, to the inspection of the body that you liked the car before buying it is worth it extremely seriously. The fact is that the cost of original body panels for Kia Sportage is large enough. So the restoration of the car, even with a small at first glance, damage may be very expensive. Amazing seems to be the fact that more affordable body details There are not many third-party manufacturers on the market. Yes, and their quality causes a big question.

It does not interfere with the Sportage inspection to check the efficiency of the front and rear optics. And the lanterns on the Korean crossover burn out quite often. And worse than just that weak link In the electrics of the car still not found. Another weak spot Sportage of the first years of release is the driver's doors who have to be saved after a run of 30-40 thousand kilometers. The benefit that they can be adjusted fast enough.

Do not be lazy when inspection of a car Check for a lateral seal on the left wing. On many cars, it is already lost that it is fraught with moisture under the hood, which, with an unsuccessful coincidence, can fill the engine control unit. And if you put everything on sidelines, it will be very soon to spend money on a new block.

Periodically, the owners of the Used Kia Sportyj will have to postpone their money and the purchase of parking sensors, the resource of which does not withstand any criticism. It is possible that you will have to spend on the rear view chamber. Her tightness leaves much to be desired.

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What can be the problems with the engine

But all these drawbacks are not really as critical to abandon the purchase of a car because of them. Rather, from buying a used Sportage will have to be abandoned due to its engine. Two-liter gasoline power on dorestayling crossovers turned out to be extremely unsuccessful. Not only dynamic characteristics Leave to desire the best, the resource is extremely low. Judge yourself - after 100 thousand kilometers in atmospheric engine Cautions can occur. And the worst thing is that the damaged engine is extremely difficult and expensive. The selection of spare parts is discount.

In addition to turning into the liners, dorestayling owners may encounter the flood valves of the airframers' couplings. Most often it happens when running 80-100 thousand kilometers. After restyling, the two-liter engine has become more reliable. Although it is possible that this reliability is only apparent, since most of the recent KIA Sportage has not yet managed to roll at least 100 thousand kilometers.

Offered for the Sportage of the third generation and diesel engines that were built on the same base, but due to different turbines, heads and fuel equipment were issued different power - 136 or 184 horsepower. In these power units, as well as in gasoline engines, the chain drive of the gas distribution mechanism is used, which has proven itself very reliable. But at this positive moments and end. Minuses in diesel engines Kia Sportage is enough. The main one is gentle fuel apparatuswhich begins to sum up after a run of 100-120 thousand kilometers. So if you notice that the diesel fuel has become more, and the heated car ceases to start the first time, then be sure that it was clogged with chips, which appeared as a result of wear high pressure. In this case, piezoquormsinki and the pump will have to restore what will cost in a round sum. Buying new details, of course, will be even more expensive.

Not too well on diesel kia Sportage proven itself and a two-mask flywheel. It rarely loses more than 90-100 thousand kilometers. But the turbines on diesel Sportage were unexpectedly long-lived. Change them extremely rare. It is true for glow candles. The owners of diesel crossovers are not facing and with serious problems with the exhaust gas recirculation system.

Video: Review of the Kia Sportage owner after 3 years of operation

Reliability of the third generation Sportage and Suspension

The mechanical gearbox in our market was offered only for gasoline Sportage. And unfortunately, the "mechanics" of the Korean crossover is a mass of claims. Due to production marriage on cars, which was released in 2010-2011, mechanical box The gear shifts had to be changed under warranty after 30-40 thousand mileage kilometers. Naturally, Koreans quickly coped with the problem arising, but the precipitate remained. So if you buy a used Sportage with "Mechanics", then preference is better to give cars recent years release. And better to choose a crossover with automatic box Shift. Unlike "mechanics" it has enviable reliability. Owners of Sportage with A "Automatom" will have to periodically change transmission oil. The interval of his replacement in our conditions is better to reduce to 40 thousand kilometers. It is a pity that only the original oil with special KIA tolerances can be poured into the box. Find it easy, but the price tag is not happy.

Connected system full drive The Sportage of the third generation in comparison with such on the predecessor was more reliable, but did not get rid of the weak points. One of them - shlind connectionwhich passes through the distribution of the intermediate shaft and the right drive. On crossovers that were released in 2010-2011, it was worn out literally 40 thousand kilometers. Fortunately, defective details official dealers Changed under warranty. Otherwise, there are no complaints about all-wheel drive transmissions.

In the suspension of the Korean car, the lowest resource possess hub bearings. On new crossovers, they rarely withstood more than 40-60 thousand kilometers. The benefit that most Sportage owners have already managed to replace them with more affordable analogs, which are also served longer. Another trouble that can wait for the owners of used Korean crossovers, is that the bolts of regulating the collapse in the rear levers are thrown over time. As a result - in the worst case, the familiar operation "Skhod-collapse" can end with replacement and levers.

But why in Kia Sportage claims are not so for steering. Moreover, it is equally concerned with both a hydraulic steering amplifier and electric. Do not deserve special complaints and brake system "Korean". Most of the owners of the crossover have already managed to change the low-quality factory discs and pads on the products of third-party manufacturers, after which they forgotten about the brake system.

It turns out that so popular in our country used Kia Sportage of the third generation is not high reliability can not boast. Moreover, in the first years of conveyor life, the design of the car and was completely frankly "raw". Then the situation improved significantly, but in terms of the reliability of Kia Sportage to the leaders in its class did not appear. And when buying a used crossover, it must be considered. To connect to the service at Kia Sportage will have to be a little more often than I would like.