What is better than a gentress or Logan. What is better Renault Logan or Daewoo Gentra? The dynamic characteristics of both models are almost no different from each other.

Remember the anecdote about Tolyatti - they say, damned place: what are you collecting, all the zhiguli do? ATTENTION, drum fraction: The asphalt of the Dmitrovsky landfill is called new Renault. Logan Togliatti assembly! How best is he former Logan, which is still continuing to do on Moscow autoframos? And on the side dish - two sedans for a similar price: Chevrolet Cobalt. and Daewoo Gentra.. Although who here turns out to be a vegetable side dish, and who is the main dish?

Heating windshield, climate control, multimedia system ... You take up the keyboard handle, sitting in the two-color interior of the top version of Lux Privilege - and it seems that this is not Logan!

True, the smell in the cabin is the same, the door seals remained single, salon lighting ceiling is still lonely, lovingly stored branded backlash driver's chair In Slazza - the benefit of the back began to be higher and now does not rest in the blade. The glitter is packaged, a little more has become a tray for small things. But you still sit behind the wheel with highly bent legs - the adjustment by departure did not appear.

Rear spacious, and big trunk More even more! We measured volumes with the help of plastic balls - and if 544 "ball" liters entered the old Logan, then in the new as much as 601!

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The power unit at both Loganov is the same: the most powerful 16-valve 1.6 (102 hp) and the five-speed "mechanics". Idling Walk, from vibrations "itch" pedals and gearbox lever ... But new car Gas pedal not with cable drive, and "electronic". Result? Imagine the old one in this sense Logan better - He is more responsive!

Apparently, the French did not fall into the settings of the electronic accelerator. Not only, the responses are difficult to predict, so the failure appeared when overclocking from low revolutions - first the motor is as if chucks, as if the pump accelerator broke into the carburetor. And since the clutch pedal is still lightweight and non-informative, then it is even more difficult to touch on the new Logan than on the old one.

But overclocking, overclocking is better? After all, the new sedan has a transmission with a more "short" main Transfer - 4.5: 1 versus 4,21: 1. Theoretically, this should improve elasticity, that is, the ability to accelerate within the same transmission. We look at the results of our measurements - and ... M-yes. On the fourth and fifth gears, the new Logan is slightly more elastic, but only for a split second. On the third, when overclocking from 60 to 100km / h, there is no winnings at all. And when starting from place to hundreds, the new Logan gets at a second and a half more than the old one: 13,5s instead of 12.0 s. Well, up to 150km / h acceleration and at all lengthened at 5.4 pieces.

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This is confirmed by the figures: and with registration in Uzbekistan.

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Feels like the roof here is noticeably higher. The lounge is not close, but the height is insufficient for high drivers.

Pereted with Renault Logan on Renault Duster So as I like the quality of Reno and you want to ride on full drive. Today we will look at the main advantages and disadvantages of two cars of the same class. Economical and simple engine, pleasant appearance and kind salon.

Just funny feel like a pillow changes the angle of inclination, and not familiar moves up and down. However, it was both the predecessor.

Oh, there is a setup of lumbar support! In the maximum position, it turned out to be quite dense. Adjusting the hub of the steering wheel not only on the corner of the tilt, but also by departure, inspecting.

The cabin does not ride in the shoulders, but scolded in the head area, - the tall drivers often face it in cars with hatch. Feels like the roof here is noticeably higher. This is confirmed by the numbers: and for it for goodbye to the seat with a practical tissue upholstery to the tabular landing and the absence of lumbar stop.

I do not agree with the location of the button sound signal In the end of the steering wheel switch, the keys of the power windows - on the center console, the joystick adjusting the mirrors on the floor tunnel. In winter, the engine quickly warms up and heats the salon in the mum.

Great light at night, the road can be seen perfectly. In short, the car for ordinary people, the language does not turn the gig to call, because much better than the old good alone, but the same simple and huge potential for creativity there are no minuses, I did not find them.

So put it, it will be better than a keet shine from the cabin for triple overpayment. The same is true to music, and to fog and rugs, all this can be bought itself, better and three or four times cheaper.

Do not compare this car with others, just take it or another car.

I am personally satisfied that I chose it, I do not regret anything, no gram was none. Updated lattice, front bumper And the shape of the hood is the main changes in comparison with the basic model.

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The rear part remained almost no special change. Logan has a constant appearance since the year when he has been restyled. Designers Renault Logan are more conservative in relation to appearance Car conceptual differences in the inner design when we get inside the DEU, we feel that once already here.

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Feelings are familiar to people who rushed to Lacetti. Unfamiliar only block multimedia system and the process of adjusting the seat.

There was a configuration of lumbar support.

Where, by the way, "Lacetti" has been produced for more than ten years - but until recently it was not officially supplied to Russia. But now for the price he is a direct competitor "Renault Logan". Compare "old olds"?

Familiar all persons?

Both cars are almost native in profile. But the "Jenters" changed the front part: the headlights are similar to those that put on the "Lacetti" -Hechbeck. Because of them, the hood shape was slightly changed, updated the front bumper and the radiator grille. Rear from the new - only nameplates. "Logan" is unchanged since restyling 2009: from updates only wheel disks Collections "Winter / Summer-2013".

Inside the "gentlemen" is also familiar. Differences only in the multimedia system and emblem on the steering wheel. A little longer than the usual adjusting the seat. Just funny feel like a pillow changes the angle of inclination, and not familiar moves up and down. However, it was both the predecessor. Oh, there is a setup of lumbar support! In the maximum position, it turned out to be quite dense.

Adjusting the hub of the steering wheel (not only on the corner of the tilt, but also by departure), inspecting. The salon is assembled carefully and on the Eastern tradition is not deprived of the decor - the Uzbeks were not kept and decorated the front panel and the plastic "wood" doors. The cabin does not ride in the shoulders, but scolded in the head area, - the tall drivers often face it in cars with hatch.

Whether the business "Logan"! Feels like the roof here is noticeably higher. This is confirmed by the numbers: from the pillow to the ceiling of 1010 mm - 55 mm more than a competitor. And for it, I forgive the seat with a practical tissue upholstery to a tender landing and the absence of a lumbar stop. And you can't do the steering wheel to yourself, as in the "gentre": adjustment only on the corner of the tilt. I do not agree with the location of the sound signal button in the end of the steering wheel switch, the power windows keys on the center console, the joystick adjustment of the mirrors on the floor tunnel. However, the whole thing is the habit.

Climate adjustments in machines are traditional, even a child will figure out the buttons and lambs. But in "Gentre" this part of the central console looks more interesting. But "Logan" takes a great overview: Big rear glass And large mirrors allow you to easily control everything that happens for the feed.

Look back

The doors widespread wide, hospitably inviting to sit on the sofa. Interestingly, the distance from the cushion to the ceiling in competitors is the same, but at the same time "Logan" and "Gentra" opposites. Renault in the area of \u200b\u200bthe head and shoulders is a lot of space, and in the "Daewoo", besides the attaching line of the roof visually compresses the salon.

But in the "Gentre" space more in the knees and the seat is not a couple that the opponent is ergonomic, with a good armrest. Yes, and the back folds. This allows you to transport the long periods that "Logan" with its tightly screwed rear sofa and not dreamed. True, the Renault trunk is still larger, and the opening is wider.

Under the floor of the cargo branch of both not too extra in our conditions full-size spare parts. However, only a fetter was saved on the inner upholstery of the lid ... Sorry, the Russians, which automatically makes honor to Korea ... That is, Uzbeks.

Movement - Life

From the palm trees, almost all bananas have already blocked, so frantically these two fight for victory. Looks like she will get someone whose challenges it is better.

I'll buy the "Jenters" motor that meets the norms of Euro-5 (J200-B15D is assembled in Uzbekistan and is somewhat different from the Chevrolet-Cobalt unit) and pour into urban time. From the bottom of the engine picks up confidently, and the clutch pedal is located so that the knee does not begin to whine after an hour jerggy in the capital's traffic. But on the track after 4000 rpm, the engine skeins.

Sixteen methathian gateland "Logan" is even more fun on the bottoms and more in medium turnover. When overclocking up to 60 km / h, the competitor wins 1.3 s, and at 100 km / h, it is already tightened by 2.1 s. It seems not so much, but in the city "Renault" liked more. "Gentra" retired at the maximum speed (9.1 km / h more) and the informativeness of the brakes. The effort on the pedals is slightly clearer, and this "slightly" pulled sympathy. Causes of a minor difference in the brake path in favor of "DEU" lie, in our opinion, in the tires: on "Gentre" stands "ContiliamiumContact 2", on "Logan" - "Amtel-Planet DC".

The smoothness of the stroke of the model is similar. They are approximately the same shake on Ughab. Well, Renault, maybe a little less. And this is the undisputed compliment "Gentre", because "Logan" deservedly walked out the benchmark in terms of smoothing road defects. Controllability? Both cars do not know what excitement is. Reliable and predictable, but no more. So it should be from folk sedans.

And according to the acoustic comfort, "DEU" is breaking forward: on acceleration and cruising 80 km / h in it noticeably quieter. In response, the incrementable "Logan" pulls out a joker - the main protection of the engine and 155 mm of the road lumen. "Gentre" with her bare belly and 140 mm distances to the ground there is nothing to pour.

So, "Gentra" is an ambitious project. Trying not to give way to the opponent or a price or quality. "DEU" attracts rich equipment. The main advantages of "Logan" - big ground clearance and spacious salon. They allowed "Renault" a little overhead of the opponent. But "Gentra" can even be ordered with a "automatic" in the database, while "automatic" "Logan" is only in complete configuration. So, the prospects for the novice are very old!

Opinion Opinion

Denis Koreshkov

"DEU-Gentra" (3400 km mileage)

Initially, it sought to find a more or less universal machine: an inexpensive, convenient, suitable for both family needs and trips to work. Purchased "Gentra" with mechanical box Transmissions in the configuration "Optimum Plus" these expectations, mostly, justified. Although there are little things that could be eliminated. For example, it is nowhere to attach a gas tank cover, which has no holder or suspension.

Residents of large cities will probably prefer the version with automatic transmission, I'm used to the "mechanics". In general, the movement on the "gentre" characterize as measured: the engine is clearly designed for a calm driving style. But after running, even in the city and in traffic jams, a sedan consumes 8.5-8.7 liters of gasoline per 100 km. The car is still new, and I did not come across the service. I hope that in this matter disappointment will not comprehend me.

Nexia of the third generation appeared in Russia! Whether it will improve their positions, will show comparative Test Ravon Nexia - Renault Logan. Nexia is now under the name Ravon and on the Chevrolet Aveo platform.

Video Test Ravon Nexia - Renault Logan below specifications at the end of the article.

Please, please express my sympathy for Ravon Nexia R3 and Renault Logan, - Move the MPS index cursor on the scale we offer at the beginning and at the end of the article.

Most recently, we first saw Ravon Nexia. R3 on. And now one of the cars standing on the stand, we have on the test! The model changed very popular, but hopelessly outdated Nexia of the past generation. Sorry Ravon, though the exhibition sample, immediately loses the color of the blue elegant Renault Logan, and it gets stronger on the road.

RAVON NEXIA R3: Rear from sedana Aveo Comes with a hatchback nose of the same model - a similar trick GM Uzbekistan has already been done with the model of a genth built on the basis of Chevrolet Lacetti. Fog lights And alloy wheels on Nexia R3 original.

An ancient platform Opel Cadet from the 80s finally sent to peace - at the heart of the new generation of Nexia R3 body from Chevrolet Aveo. T250 sold in the mid-late 2000s. Daewoo and Chevrolet icons on Uzbek production cars also went into the past - now the GM model Uzbekistan is sold in Russia under the Ravon brand. The new brand appeared a year ago and he was already "tried out" a genth sedan and compact hatchback R2.

Announced prices for Ravon Nexia R3 from 419 to 569 thousand rubles, three configurations are available to the choice. Test car - the most expensive, in the version of Elegant and with a machine gun.

Rival rival, second generation, in the view does not need - the demand for superpopular budget sedan speaks for himself, so it is perfect for us as a guide. Logan is built on the B0 platform of about the same age as Nexia R3. In 2014, after modernization, Logan was launched on AvtoVAZ.

The cost of this Renault Logan in the configuration of Privelege with the winter package of options, engine per 82 hp and robotic transmission - 636 thousand rubles.

Ravon Nexia R3 against Renault Logan. 2

Ravon Nexia R3 in its country elements.

Salon

This time for victories in the tests, we play edible nuts - one of them can be obtained for the salon, the trunk will be evaluated separately.

Car interiors are strongly contrasted in style. In Raveon, he is deliberately Asian: the arrows of the instruments and the old-fashioned electronic clock went to the inheritance from Aveo, and the two-color color scheme is the result of the work of Uzbek designers. Inserts under carbon perceive with irony, but in general the quality of plastic for the budget model is good. Unfortunately, in our climate, a bright interior is blocked instantly. However, the model is available and more practical design of the cabin in dark colors, let and nonsense.

The interior of Nexia R3 seems to transfers us from the dummy Moscow Autumn in Sunny Uzbekistan. It warms up, by the way, pretty quickly, but the Russians will miss the heating of the seats - so far it is not even in the "maximum speed".

Logan inside looks simple and concise - traces of savings on every detail, as on the first generation of the model, no longer striking, but nothing to admire. The atmosphere of despondency searches a few presence of a few buttons - in this fairly rich configuration there are rear power windows and cruise control.

Simple and logical at first glance Logan Salon sometimes throws out the focuses - the spinner on the radio actually answers not for the volume, and in the frequency, the power windows control buttons are scattered on the cabin: front - in the door, rear on the central console.

The blind test will help to evaluate ergonomics from the driver's point of view - tie the eyes one of us and sit down, alternating, in cars. We check how convenient to tune in and drive a small distance "Polyupp." Rolled, naturally, on a huge wide platform. The sensations of drivers behave very well video (see at the beginning and at the end of the article). Both strongly deviated from the gate on the finish, but according to their words, inconveniences in manipulation by the authorities did not felt.

While the Salon Raveon and Logan are eyebrow in the eyebrow, everything will solve the rear row. There are enough spaces for two in both cars, but three will have to be sighted. Logan is still a reasonable in the legs, and, again, is practical from the point of view of materials. For several millimeters, he here comes forward and his driver eats one delicious nut.

The lounge of such a light loose and thin fabric looks beautiful, with the reservation, that the car is new or only from dry cleaning, and you look at it from the side.

The rear row of Logan is the kingdom of practicality. Sit comfortably, materials are simple and not marked.

The task "Salon" wins Renault Logan, 1: 0 in his favor.

Ground clearance

Road clearance traditionally check the tire with a height of 200 mm. Renault Logan began confidently, but heights under the rear beam did not have enough - the tire remained under the bottom. Nexia R3 also did not have enough pairs of centimeters under the skirt of the bumper - no chance to overcome the "barrier". Formally, the difference in the ground clearance is minimal, but we will not forget that the engine protection is provided in the basic version, and the factory defense does not offer Ravon at all. Our test car can forgive it - it can be said, exhibition, but if you put protection at the dealer, the lumen, most likely will become lower. Therefore, in this nomination, the victory for Renault Logan, his driver is supported by another nut. Maybe it will help him in the following two dynamic exercises.

On relief without protection motor compartment In the Debrist to climb scary, but at least high borders do not threaten the bumper.

Already 2: 0 in favor of Renault Logan.

Traffic light start

We tried to pick up the most closely close cars, so our Renault Logan was in the least dynamic version - with an 8-valve Romanian engine K7M for 1.6 liters and 82 hp. and a 5-speed Easy-R Spanish Robot. She and in the usual mode more noise than it accelerates, what to say about some contests. Although the transmission should pay tribute - it switches faster and, unlike it, does not burn the grip.

For the second generation of Logan, three versions of engines are made - by 82, 102 or 113 hp, all 1.6-liter. Available transmissions - 5-speed mechanics, 4-speed classic automatic and 5-step robot.

Against this background, Nexia R3 looks like a favorite: here it is quite a modern 1.5-liter 16-valve motor on 105 hp. With the variable phases on the inlet and the chain drive of the timing, working in a pair with a 6-speed automaton. The combination is already familiar from Chevrolet Cobalt, for some time sold on russian market - There were no serious problems with these aggregates. According to the subjective sensations, the lightweight car accelerates pretty cheerful - the speakers in the stream is enough.

The only one affordable for Nexia R3 - S-TEC III volume of 1.5 liters and 105 hp. Gearboxes to choose from - 5-speed mechanical or 6-speed automatic.

Start from the spot cost without surprises - Raveon was confidently left. Be Renault Logan with a 102-strong 16-valve motor and a 4-speed automaton, it could have chances, but this version is 50,000 rubles more than ours, and the difference in value with relief would have come out for reasonable limits. So the nut for acceleration rightly awarded the car from Uzbekistan.

Motor on Nexia R3 is more powerful and more modern than on Logan, and the automatic is fountaining. With a conventional machine and the 16-valve Renault would cost more than a run of 100 thousand, in the same equipment as we.

Raison Nexia R3 is playing one nut, but the account remains in favor of Renault Logan: 1: 2

Snake

On the snake, the result is no longer so unambiguous - Raveon is more cubed both visually and feeling, but its time is better: 28.36 with 29.57 in Renault. Again the robot? One way or another, and the driver of the Rayon was reinforced by another nut.

On the balance, the stabilization system is available in the "database", while freely turns off.

For Logan, the stabilization system is available as an option. On this instance, only ABS will help the driver.

After the snake, the bill was equal - 2: 2.

Football

A traditional football game this time will go to test: we will appreciate how comfortable cars are convenient when maneuvering. Renault Logan in our version does not have a stabilization system, therefore it gives to use the handbrake, while Raveon stops attempting to lose weight even when the electronics is disconnected. If we talk about more important things in the usual exploitation, then Logan has a heavy steering wheel at low speeds and inconveniently switch the gearbox forward-back. Therefore, I give the victory of Ravon Nexia.

Raison Nexia R3 After dynamic tasks, moves forward: 3: 2

Having left the closed platform, they caught a "nail", but it did not knock Ravon from the upcoming gauge.

A rare case - a full-size spare wheel really came in handy to us during the test. The tire pressure sensor worked as it should - lit a malfunction lamp almost immediately after the puncture and repaid when the repaired regular wheel returned to the place.

Trunk.

Both vehicles claim the role of universal, so the trunk volume is of great importance for the buyer. Having reacted with cubes according to the method of the journal "driving", we obtain the result of 432 liters in Renault Logan and 372 liters at Redean. In both cars, the useful volume is somewhat eaten a loop. Nexia has other disadvantages: the trunk lid closes with an effort, and the castle larva is closed by a frame under the number. Let's hope that both problems will eliminate.

Renault Logan after the trunk compares the score - 3: 3.

The volume of the trunk of Nexia R3, according to our measurements - 372 liters. Less than Logan, but there is a rubber rug.

Due to the depth of the cargo compartment, the Renault was made huge - 432 liters of useful volume.

Priming

As you can see, Raveu is already inferior to the road.

In order for the test to be productive, add another test - let's see the work of the suspension on bad roads. It is not cluttered for a serious off-road: we will have enough broken asphalt and a rapid primer - many "state employees" have to work just in such conditions. According to the first impression, both cars swallow the little things well, and large pits. But renow on serious irregularities is harsh, and energy intensity compared to Logan is slightly smaller. A victorious golden nut eats Renault Logan.

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Pendants of both cars are well prepared for russian roads. The rear wheels of Rayon are harshly pass "lying police", there are not enough arches noise insulation, but these are soldiers.

Still, Ravon Nexia R3 is very good. At a cost of 569,000 rubles it corresponds to Logan with less powerful enginebut this maximum equipment. Refuse to the passenger airbag (we do not recommend), rear power windows and alloy wheels - Save another 50 thousand. Therefore, if Raveon holds the price, the model will not give way competitive and its position, rather, it can start passing forward.

The manufacturer has yet to retain the Russian version of several options - heated seats, engine protection, control of the central lock from the key. It should be noted that the employees of the Russian representative office of the Uzbek auto plant were interested in our test Ravon Nexia - Renault Logan and the developments in terms of the shortcomings of their new items, which means their chances to raise the popularity of Uzbek cars they will not be mad.

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Video Test Ravon Nexia - Renault Logan, specifications below.

NEXIA RAVON / RENAULT LOGAN

Let's look at the advantages and disadvantages of two rivals. We will try to determine the strong and weak sides configuring cars. Although immediately say that this is just a statement of well-known facts.

Solving which of the cars is most reliable, what to acquire, the exclusive right of potential buyers.

Exterior

If we consider both cars in the profile they have a lot in common .. the "gentlemen" of the original form only front. The front bumper with the radiator grille looks good. About the innovations in "Clothing" "Logan" there is nothing to note. All the same "Macintosh" of Raistaling 2009. Auto boasts unless that the collection disks "Winter-Summer 2013".

Interior

Comparing the interior of the machines, we note the upholstery of very modest (materials) from "DEU". But a better assembly than a competitor. For equipment, the first place is given to Daewoo. In this component, Logan is clearly lagging behind.

Salon "Daewoo" in restrained colors. Decorated with plastic under the "tree" front panel. Salon spacious. Only high passengers will not be comfortable. Lack of height. 55 mm Salon has a competitor above. The salon of the French without excess pathos and delights. Assembly quality. The front panel is collected with a plus sign.

Adjusting seats in both "subjects" is almost at the same level. Well, maybe the seats of the Uzbek car are adjustable a little longer. Mirrors from "Gentra" are regulated better than that of Renault. The fact is that the joystick adjustment of the Renault Logan mirrors is disguised on the central tunnel. As for the trunk. Here the strength is approximately equal. Competitors "laid" in the cargo compartment full-size spares. Although Renault trunk will be somewhat more.

Nodes and auto units

Sixteenthlylated force aggregate Logan works better on "low". Merry on medium turnover. Accepted up to 60 km / h, falls in Uzbeks 1.3 seconds. Disconnecting up to 100 km / h, the separation is 2.1 seconds. It seems a trifle, but in the urban conditions "Renault" looks solid.

"Gentra" has played out in high-speed indicators. Maximum speed is 9.1 km / h. Torkemose: There are practically no difference. Minor advantage at Daewoo. Maybe the brake path is less because installed tires "Conti Premium Contact 2"?

Challenges cars are the same. Both cars "shake" in pins and pits. Several less fuss passengers "Renault". But we applaud "Gentre" in this issue! Why do you ask? How! The French have always been considered a model in the plan of "smoothing" of road surface defects! And here they practically caught up. Both "subjects" are not distinguished by reactivity and ability. Reliable, predictable cars. Well, not interesting just! Or maybe it should be so? Perhaps reliability of the main rod of folk sedans?

So, "Daewoo Gentra" - ambitions do not take! With all my might try not to disappoint a competing company: neither price or quality. "DEU" attracts a decent equipping. What positive can be noted from "Logan"? First of all: a spacious lounge and ground clearance. It is these two indicators that make it possible to get ahead of a competitor. Maybe not a lot, but still!

Fans "Daewoo. »They may argue: after all, those who want to acquire a car with automatic transmission in basic configuration. This plus they say. Indeed, the French are lagging behind. After all, the car with automatic transmission they go in the models of full configuration. Summarizing can be said that prospectsDaewoo Gentra is very good.