Land Rover Discovery II TD5: an outstanding personality. "I have never had to go for the tractor." Reviewed by the owner of Land Rover Discovery II and wants to ourselves

V8, it would seem that there should be eternal - these are old aluminum lower motors with pusher pushers with very modest forcing (188-225 hp), in full compliance with the American tradition (Rover V8 line is based on the American Buick 215 1960). However, these "eights" - an example is rarely unsuccessful in the structures of the design, which could be relatively easy to be improved, but it never happened.
- Approximately 2000, Rover V8 tritely satisfied the sleeves, "slipping" from the cylinder block down to the crankshaft. It happened on different runs, depending on the mode of operation, but more than 300 thousand motors without kapitals were rarely walked. 46 (with an increased piston running and, accordingly, longer sleeves) drawdown happened on average faster, sometimes 150 thousand. What did the British do? Modified the cylinder block by adding a "step". The sleeves stop stopped, but another problem got out.
- Motors after 2000 eventually began to easily arise the microcracks of the block in the walls under the sleeves. At the same time, the hot exhaust gases in the area of \u200b\u200bthe joint of the block with the GBC penetrated into the space between the sleeve and the block, and then in the cooling shirt. The resulting overheating crushed the motor for several thousand kilometers without visible causes.
- As a cherry on the cake - knocking piston skirts, almost like the sadly famous Volkswagen CFNA.
- As a result, British V8 can serve the "half a million" or more only after high-quality capitals with the replacement of the sleeves on the modified, with the flange (Flanged Liners). They not only do not deplete, but also almost exclude the risk of penetration exhaust gases into space between block and sleeves.
- Another headache of the owner of the machine with the V8 is the control system of the distributed injection of the GEMS of the joint production of Lucas and Sagem. The system is distinguished not only by weak wiring and expensive consumables, but also sensitivity to voltage drops (for example, due to the failover of the generator) and all sorts of interference (for example, from the LAM). Fortunately, in 1999, a year after the release of Disco Series II, the Lucas products refused to favor Bosch Motronic M5.2.1, noticeably more successful. Motor with Gems Easy to learn on a large longitudinally located black plastic box With the proportion of the volume of the engine, which is in relevant above the engine.
- Diesels 2.5 TD5, as already mentioned, these are rover top five. The fact that the engine from BMW is a popular misconception. BMW M51, 6-cylinder diesel engine, put on Range Rover. P38 of the same years. Cheaper Disco left British diesel, at that time a very progressive, with an electron-controlled injection from Lucas and a mega-popular GARRETT GT20 turbine (also known under the Allied Signal brand), launched on Diesel engines VW, Volvo, Ford, Renault, Mercedes-Benz and Others.
- Until 2000, the motors suffered from problems with the oil pump and the GBC, however, by now they are all eliminated. In 2003 with restyling, the engines received the EGR valve (remember about the timely cleaning), but it did not reach the diesel particulate filters.
- from popular problems - leakage oils from gaskets (only in 2002 gLP gasket became metal), the flows of the radiator, the breakdown of the fuel pump (the resource is very different - someone changed to 100 thousand, someone went and 300), damage to the sensors, wear the damper of the crankshaft vibrations (50 euros) ... in short, not the most reliable motorHowever, a frank crime, as with gasoline V8, is not observed behind it. Piston group There are no problems, the resource of the chain timing is more than 250 thousand for sure.
- Details for diesel engines for modern standards inexpensive, but there are questions about availability. Turbines (about 300 euros) and fuel pumps (about 200 euros) are available new and even in stock, but nozzles for 40 euros per piece (recovered), most likely, have to be ordered from Ebay from England.

The fans of the brand "Land Rover" are quite appreciated model Discovery. II, produced from the end of 1998 to 2004. It is believed that this car is disposed of many shortcomings inherent in the first Discovery.

Those who wish to have a used SUV should know - even the "second disco" has a number of features, and some branded "diseases" remained, and not only technical. So, if the car is bought for off-road driving, it is recommended to immediately replace bumpers (at least anterior), frankly interfering in the bouanes movement. The fact is that made of stroke plastic front bumper It hangs too low, even a slight contact with a snowdrift often leads to its breakdown. The removed whole bumpers is better to sell through the repair workshops "Land Rover" or "disassembly", and instead, install steel tuning (approximately $ 600-1500 each).

The most "tricky" Land Rover Discovery. II equipped with a gasoline engine V8 with a capacity of 4.6 liters with a capacity of 220 hp (This power unit appeared under the hood "Disco" after the modernization of 2002, it was mainly put on the cars sent to the USA). This unit made Discovery pretty fast car, After all, up to 100 km / h heavy SUV accelerated for 9.5 s, although, if you think, there was no particular point in such a motor. After all, Land Rover Discovery II does not most best behave at high speeds. Therefore, if you want to have a powerful and fast Discovery, it is enough to look for a car with a gasoline V8 volume of 4.0 l, which had 185 hp. But it is necessary to immediately say that even if the gasoline motor works like a clock, it still retains its large drawback - fuel consumption. When moving in Moscow goes on average 22 liters per 100 km of way! In addition, some drivers complain about its noise.

Diesel, of course, in terms of fuel economy is much more preferable. With a volume of 2.5 liters and power 138 hp His fuel consumption will be in the city of 13-15 liters of diesel fuel, and on the highway, this figure is lowered to 9-10 liters. It is necessary to recognize - diesel succeeded in glory (not in vain, because under the hood of 70-80% of the Discovery II sold in Russia worth it. This 5-cylinder engine has minimal vibrations, works without a pump (there are direct injection pumps in cylinders) and so on. The more good diesel is, this is the presence of heating the fuel drained back into the fuel tank (in this way, during the movement of the diesel fuel does not freeze in winter). By the way, there are ways to increase the power of the diesel engine, and almost without prejudice to its resource. One of the easiest - installation of the adjusting tuning kit ($ 850).
And in this case, with the dynamics of Discovery 2.5 TD5 there will be no problems.

But again it was not without a spoon of tar - on cars made after 2001, modernized nozzles pumps appeared (they were made to perform tightened environmental norms). So, there sometimes there is such a malfunction as flowing fuel. The diesel fuel flows into the cylinders (and only on the unused engine), which leads to oil contamination and an increase in its level in the crankcase. Each pump-nozzle costs $ 400-700, plus $ 70 master for work. Another problem is to flow sealing rings of the pumps-injectors, which is why the engine oil again begins to mix with the diesel fuel. And if the rings were proud, they must be quickly changed ($ 120 with work). From other characteristic breakdowns of the diesel engine, the failure of the air flow meter ($ 180), the turbine valve ($ 35), the fuel pressure regulator ($ 190), the fuel pump of the paging mounted in the tank ($ 450).

In general, diesel, even despite its complex design, turned out to be quite reliable. However, "experienced" strongly advise him to check it very carefully, and this should only be done by an experienced specialist. After all, if something breaks in the diesel, the repair will cost big money. So, may fail the turbine (actually it has a good resource, but this item is not eternal). Fortunately, neoriginal turbines for $ 900 have now appeared on sale (branded is more than $ 1500).

V8 Land Rover Discovery gasoline engines have always differed high reliability. However, "Land Rover" would not be "Land Rover" if it were power units did not prevent unpleasant surprises: there are cases when overhaul The gasoline engine had to be done after 100-120 thousand km, and even despite regular maintenance. Details that provide engine operation can be broken. So, the weakest place of the Land Rover SUV is a fuel pump, which even in a non-original form costs $ 150-200 (in the case of a diesel engine, it can be determined by loss of power). It still happens that the engine cooling radiator ($ 350) flows.

If we talk about the reliability of gearboxes, then the ACP of production ZF does not cause complaints from masters, especially when the car mileage is not too big (after 250-300 thousand km is already possible repairs worth about $ 1500). The mechanical box usually does not cause trouble, although sometimes in it after 150 thousand km "fly" synchronizers, the replacement of which will cost $ 700 (even sometimes cars with a "manual" box breaks the flywheel worth $ 500). You can advise when buying a car with a mileage of more than 100 thousand km to see how the clutch on a mechanical CP works, because its replacement on Land Rover will cost a decent amount (installing a new set will require $ 500).

Now about the system of full drive, for which the second Discovery got a lot ... Critics! Yes, Jeepers were extremely unhappy with this SUV, because in the period from 1998 to 2002, Discovery II was equipped with a dispensing box without mechanical blocking of the mid-scene differential (or rather, on many cars it was, but it was simply not connected at the factory). Apparently, in "Land Rover" considered that in the case of slipping the wheels, electronic "brains" will cope with all the problems (the computer itself solved what the wheel must be slowed down at one time or another). The "fidelled" transmission showed itself far from the best way - in mud electronics in many cases poorly coped with her duties, and Land Rover Discovery gave birth to gloomily where the less famous SUVs were calm. After restyling on Discovery, it began to establish a proven blocking of the mid-sieve differential. And the owners of the first annual release machines can remake a little "distribution" and get the possibility of mechanical blocking.

Like many models of Land Rover, transfer case Discovery II often leaks. Installing new seals costs about $ 300, but after that, through a year, they can again progress. In addition, sometimes "rolled" the gearbox (the cost of eliminating leaks is $ 150 with work), as well as the front card shaft. The last cost of $ 1,000 fails due to the "dead" cross. Dealers do not have the right to change the crossmen, but at informal stations, the literate masters can perform this operation. It can be noted that in the entire transmission on Discovery II only applies synthetic oilthat somewhat affects the cost. But thanks to the "synthetics", the lubricant of transmission parts has significantly improved and their resource has seriously increased.

Discovery II has a hard dependent suspension, excellent suitable off-road conqueror. However, the reverse side of the medal of this design was the loss of controllability at high speeds. That is why Land Rover Discovery II was established (though only for extra charge) ACE corporate anti-stabilizer system, including stabilizers transverse stability with hydraulic drives. With it in the corners of the body practically not carnating! But do not think that Discovery equipped with ACE system becomes a sports car. Still this frame SUV, and according to the laws of the genre, he simply can not have handling like sports coupe.

There are no special complaints to the reliability of the ACE system, although sometimes the trunk tube flows, and it happens, the "Anticrene" pump fails ($ 700 - the original, $ 500 is non-original). But pneumatic adjustment road Suit The rear axle (also option) shalit, especially if you leave off the road. Experience has shown that pneumoballons ($ 340 per piece) can deliver trouble in frost (if there are some microcracks on them). In this case, the rear suspension can simply "be blown up" and no longer climb (it is worth noting that the pneumatic suspension can always be "translate" to the springs).

The suspension in the second Discovery is more reliable than the first. At least there are no notorious turning front "balls", which were pretty quickly worn and "killed" other elements of the chassis (as a result, the repair was worth $ 700-900 with the "balls"). At Land Rover Discovery II, instead of problem details, there are usual, very strong ball supports. In the rear suspension, in fact, there is nothing except shock absorbers, and in the front it is necessary to change only a penny bushings of stabilizers ($ 18 per pair). Well, plus to this every 50-80 thousand km, the steering traction is usually wear out ($ 130 for non-original), brake discs ($ 100 - for the corporate and $ 70 - for non-original), and after 80-100 thousand km, as a rule, there is a turn of shock absorbers ($ 120 per unit, taking into account the work on replacement) and so on. However, once again we can say that, despite the absence of some serious weak places In the chassis, behind the suspension Land Rover Discovery II should be followed, because if it "run", the repair will cost very big money.

EXCURSION
The first generation of Land Rover Discovery was presented in 1989. The car took the empty market niche between the most utilitarian Defender and the most luxurious Range Rover.

The first generation of Discovery was released both in 3- and in the 5-door version. In the car body, aluminum was widely used (from it the hood, front and rear wings, outdoor pads per door). At the first "disco" installed gasoline engines volume of 2.0 l (136 hp), 3.5 liters (152 hp) and 3.9 l (182 hp), as well as a diesel engine of 2.5 l (107 hp ., 111 hp or 113 hp Depending on the year of release and settings). Together with the engine could be installed automatic or mechanical box Transmissions. Moreover, the last two species - until 1995 put LT77 (it is considered more reliable), and then the CP appeared under the designation R380.

Land Rover Discovery of the first generation survived two modernization. The first one took place at the end of 1992, and the second - in late 1994. In addition, it can be noted that in the period from 1992 to 1995, Discovery was sold in Japan under the name Honda Crossroad.

The second generation of Land Rover Discovery appeared in 1998. Outwardly, he turned out to be very similar to the first "disco", but in fact its design has undergone a global alteration. For example, the electronics, the work of which, however, did not like the fan of the brand "Land Rover" with the full drive. That is why after modernizing the car held in 2002, Discovery received a time-tested mechanical blocking of differential. Under the hood Discovery II can be found gasoline motors V8 with a volume of 4.0 l (185 hp), 4.6 liters (220 hp) and a 2,5 liter diesel (138 hp).

Well, in 2004, the third generation of Land Rover Discovery with independent suspensions was presented. Under the hood Discovery III is installed petrol aggregates volume 4.0 l (V6, 219 hp), 4.4 liters (V8, 300 hp) and 2.7-liter diesel (V6, 190 hp).

Land Rover Discovery II is not just practical and enough reliable car - The car has its own character and style. In addition, the "second disco" was one of the few English SUVs, received from the consumer for the price / quality ratio of a strong "four". True, to buy a live legend - Discovery II - it is worth up with all responsibility. IN obligatory It is necessary to diagnose the car from specialists, because if some malfunctions are found, repair will require large financial investments.

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Main problems Discovery 2

A sufficient degree of reliable car Land Rover Discovery 2 Having a fairly honorable age, began to figure out some typical problems. These problems concern mainly the suspension of the car, the steering system and the engine. We are ready to offer inexpensive repairs using some constructive solutions that do not reduce the quality of nodes and car units, but in some cases even exceeding the previous indicators, with a significant decrease in the cost of repair and components.

Prices for repair Land Rover Discovery 2

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Description of the Land Rover Discovery 2 model

At the time of the debut of the Land Rover Discovery of the second generation, SUVs still knew how much useful. Such cars were purchased not for the sake of emotions, but for real trips outside the highway. From here and the valor who was famous for soughs from the 90s.

Discovery 2 is much smaller than his rivals from Japan. However, not everyone needs a huge car.

At the same time, customers wanted their cars to be at least a little civilized - allowed to comfortably overcome long-distance routes. These two, at first glance, contrary to each other characteristics and tried to combine the British. As a result, it turned out Land Rover Discovery, which was more cultural than Defender But less luxurious than Range Rover.

Initially, Land Rover and did not think about creating another generation Discovery, deciding to limit the usual update. But the modernization was so deep that it was decided to count the model for the next generation. Changes affected many areas. The body was almost completely recycled, with the exception of minor details. In the first disco, the whole body, not counting the roof, was made of aluminum. The successor also received steel doors.

Discovery 2 became longer than 18 centimeters, most of which went to an increase in the trunk. But the main drawback remained - a small wheelbase (254 cm only). Nevertheless, on the rear high set seats Not as closely. Additional centimeters over their heads were carved, slightly raising the roof. However, high passengers may experience discomfort, since the eyes turn out to be at the level of the bulkhead between the door and side ceiling windows. Another problem is narrow doors.

Among the proposals, you can meet 7-seater modifications. The third row is not too comfortable. But for short distances, it will be completely coming. True, if you do not use it for a long time, the backs of folding chairs cease to be recorded in the right position.

Wealth and aristocracy

It is not difficult to find richly equipped with copies on the market. Still, this car bought British aristocrats to ride a hunt. Inside can be found: leather upholstery, climate control, audio system Harman Kardon, cruise control and full "electropacket", including electric drives.

Restyled models (after 2002) are distinguished by dual round reflectors of front optics (instead of one rectangular), new rear lanterns, recycled brakes (though, their effectiveness has not changed), thicker rails, improved acoustic comfort (at the expense of new door seals, silent blocks, a second graduation silencer and less noisy crushing).

Everything is good while working

One of the curious elements of the Land Rover Discovery 2 is a full drive system. Its "modernization" is a real puzzle and proof of full chaos, which is working in the time of design work.

Torque is transmitted constantly to all four wheels through inter-seed differential. Approximately 2001, blocking was installed, but lacked the lever for its inclusion. To activate, I had to leave the salon. Fortunately, the connection itself was not complicated. However, in 2001, the blocking was seized from the list of equipment and returned only at the very end - in 2004. This time, with full-fledged civilized management.

The car, in accordance with the status of the SUV, is equipped with two hard bridges. Classical solutions guarantee reliability, strength and good opportunities on the ground, but worse manifest itself on asphalt coatings. In Discovery II, in all conditions, the challenges does not occur, especially in the presence of self-leveling SLS suspension. The steering is fairly accurate, and the manageability is definitely better than Mitsubishi Pajero.

Behind the wheel, discovery is difficult to get rid of the feeling that the center of gravity is too high, and the car is about to the tip. But not with the bizarre and useful ACE system (Active Cornering Enhancement) is a hydraulic system of controlling stabilizers. Thanks to her, "disco" has great movements of the suspension on the off-road, and when moving along the motorway, the body is not very cubed.

Ace, like pneumatic bullons from behind - option. Combines both systems one: low reliability. In the case of Ace fails hydraulic pumpor leaks fluid. In pneumatics, the problem delivers a compressor or a prudged pillow.

Those who are planning to take advantage of the British SUV on purpose, specialists recommend dismantling the complex suspension elements and establish conventional springs. There are enough tuning sets on the market, ranging from shock absorbers and ending with springs designed for various loads. Sellers, pointing in ads the word "springs", thereby make it possible to understand that in this instance of the above defects will not be. As for the metal-rubber elements of the chassis, they differ in uncommon strength.

Engines

Among the proposals most The market occupy diesel versions with the TD5 motor. It has five cylinders, but only four incandescent candles. The direct fuel injection is carried out by electronically controlled pump-nozzles. Such Discovery consumes about 10-11 l / 100 km and provides performance below the expected. SUV heavy and not aerodynamic. More than a 2-ton disco with a 4-speed automaton accelerates to hundreds for infinite 20 seconds. In addition to automatic transmission, the Briton was completed with 5-speed mechanics. By the way, both boxes should be carefully checked before buying. In the event of a malfunction, the repair will be expensive.

TD5 has nothing to do with BMW, as it is considered, but is a continuation of the development of the old diesel Rover. L. His real problem is the complete lack of new nozzles for cars 1999-2001, complying with EURO-2 standard. In later modifications, TD5 complies with Euro-3 standards, and new nozzles can be purchased at a price of 15,000 rubles per piece. So, if you are interested in the diesel version, then only after 2002. For TD5, it is characteristic: the failure of the fuel pressure regulator, the bypass valve in the supervision system, the weakening of the oil pump bolts (leads to a pressure drop in the lubrication system), and the need to periodically replace the nozzle control detergent. The fuel pump is beaten with age. Expensive damage to the head of the cylinder block or gasket leads to mixing oil with coolant. The main thing is to check oil Prope And look under the cover of the filling neck of the oil into the engine, in the coolant tank and the radiator to make sure there are no characteristic deposits (impurities).

Such problems completely bypassed gasoline modifications with V8 of 4.0 and 4.6 liters. Both engines also have British roots. In the past, the owners faced with premature wear Block liners and heads. Currently, many gasoline aggregates are redone for work on liquefied gas.

All motors have a chain type timing type. Among the general problems can be noted oil leakage from under the camshaft seals. Considering the age of the model, flowing from the engine seals and transmission is a common phenomenon. Moreover, even during the warranty service, the German services recorded all sorts of oil leaks about half of the disco.

Myths or suffering?

Fans of SUVs are conventionally divided into two camps. Some believe that there is nothing better than the "Japanese" led by Land Cruiser.And Land Rover is the worst brand in the world. Others, consider exactly the opposite. And yet, Land Rover Discovery 2 at the age will be more costly than japanese SUVs. Briton has an unusual design and needs specialized service. Concerning supplies, then everything is available and rather cheap. Specific equipment will require serious investment. For example, compressor pneumatic suspension (about 45 000 rubles) or block valves of the ACE system (28 000 rubles).

Among typical faults Emotional Disco can noted the refusal electronic pedals Gas, hinged wear cardanian Vala, jamming door locks and trunk lid, failure ABS sensors and contamination of electrical contacts. And how many troubles in due time delivered an immobilizer sensitive to impact external sources interference. Power lines, radio signal control of the garage doors and the similar one once was paralyzed by an SUV. Fortunately, to launch the engine, it was enough to move the car meters for 200. Sometimes rainwater penetrates into the salon. Shallow smell must alert you.

Giving for a decent dyskovery 400-450 thousand rubles, it is necessary to be prepared for investments in the amount of 50,000 rubles. This is a starting package for a car diligently serviced in a specialized workshop. SUVs with dubious past will require higher costs.

Conclusion

So is it worth afraid of Land Rover Discovery 2? Maybe. First, he needs special care. Secondly, some components are not available. The English SUV is a car with a special character that does not save on the road. However, find a well-kept instance will not be easy.

Specifications Land Rover Discovery 2 (1999-2004)