Reviews of the owners of Land Rover Discovery II. Land Rover Discovery II TD5: Uncommon Person Discovery Motors 2

"I am an avid fisherman and long dreamed of an SUV - it was tired of constantly adapt to someone," says the owner Land Rover. Discovery II. - But find a lively and reliable SUV in the area of \u200b\u200b10,000 dollars at that time turned out to be a big problem. But specifically about restyling Discovery II spoke not bad, and the Internet reviews most of them were positive. "

We present to your attention feedback land owner Rover Discovery II 2003 release with a 2.5-liter turbo diesel engine and a 5-speed manual transmission. The car was acquired in Belarus with a mileage of 145 thousand kilometers for $ 13,000 in May 2014. Now on the odometer - 187 thousand kilometers.

- The history of the car is similar to the banal legend of "dealers" - we went to relatives in Russia "only to the country" and gave a grandfather-pensioner to the village, and she didn't need her, and grandfather decided to sell it. I carefully learned all the documents, went for a hundred - everything is confirmed. The mileage is original, the state is excellent, almost all the details are still factory and not repaired. In general, I decided to take it. Now I do not regret - excellent and real SUV For moderate money!

Body from restyling Discovery II is very strong. As far as I know, the front wings and the rear "quarters" are aluminum. Corrosion there will definitely not, but oxidized in the places of squeaks of paint metal can - I bought with a small dent on the wing, in this place the chemical oxidation process has already begun, but in two years it does not progress, so it will be removed with all other shortcomings. Still often suffer windshield With roof and thresholds in welding places. But this can be written off at the age of the car. It seems to me that the car of such a year of release is quite difficult to find in the native paint. You still need to follow the frame number. Quite often, he begins to rust and with untimely take measures simply ceases to read. There will be no serious problems with the traffic police, but there will have to travel a lot to various examinations ... Otherwise, there are no complaints on the frame and the bodies. The arches are protected, and the quality of painting on the height - there are almost no painting from the stones. And, despite the fact that the car is often exploited on forest roads, there are no obvious scratches from the branches.
For the passability of this car there are no equal. In the "base" there is already an anti-slip system and a system of assistance during the descent from the mountain - it greatly facilitates control during started descents. For new SUVs, such functions are familiar, but for 1998 (the model produced from 1998 to 2004) was a breakthrough. In addition, resting discovery to the downstream has been added and manual blocking of the differential. But, I confess, I included them just once - during trips to Pripyat. But even in that situation, when the car practically burst into the mud, I could leave himself. In other cases, electronics are confidently coped. Never have to go for the tractor! And otherwise why such an SUV, on which only on the border can be called?

The trunk is not particularly big as all cars of this class. Therefore, an expedition trunk is installed on the roof of my car. If you go together, in principle enough and usual. But if you leave for fishing company and for a long time, then top trunk cuts out. In addition, the rear row of seats can be folded and move forward. Then in the trunk, probably you can sleep. But I prefer to take a tent on vacation, so more comfortable and more convenient to spend the night in nature!

There is a lot of space inside the cabin. From options, the most needed is - headlights, separate climate control and power windows. But for the landing behind the wheel I had to get used to a long time - the pedal node is shifted to the left. This is unusual for those who did not deal with the English brand. They say it is done so that it is possible to hang out during the roads around the road from the window and evaluate the condition of the road.

Luke is not, but it is rather plus than minus - sealing gums in our climate are very fast, and the hatch begins to leak. The same problem arises in the places of fastening of religions - I have already begun to appear wet spots on the ceiling. There is also no pneumatic suspension and the functions "Anti-Crene" (ACE). And again this is a plus for me - these options can begin to work incorrectly and may require expensive repairs. For my purposes, enough and the simplest configuration is secure and just everything should be.

The engine is not powerful - only 139 hp For such a mass, it lacks on the highway, but it is quite enough for off-road. In addition, engines of this type have a very large traction effort - what is needed for the SUV. On the highway on this car, it is not quite comfortable to go - after 90 km / h need to constantly drive. After the passengers, I was unusual for me, but I calmed down on the forums, they said that everyone frame cars So.

On the chassis, there were also serious problems. If we talk about breakdowns, then immediately after the purchase I had to replace the air flow meter. I gave about $ 100 for him, it was easily replaced independently. Fuel consumption is sane - about 11-12 liters on "hundred" in mixed mode. And I go 30% - the city and 70% - the route. If you go only on the highway and without expedition trunk, and in the "top ten" you can meet.

The suspension is simple - shock absorbers and several cravings are attached to the frame. I have already changed one of the treagors - for the central steering gave about $ 100. I also had to change the ball top and bottom on the left side - I gave about $ 30 for two. And I was a hundred for a hundred, that faulty details were still factory. By the way, it is often necessary to buy original parts, as they do not always produce third-party manufacturers. Consumables can be found without difficulty, everything else is under the order, an average term of 7 days. After replacing the challenges of the problems with launching in winter in any frosts, it did not occur. For the candles themselves gave $ 60, bought BERU. And for the replacement I took only $ 20, but it is in the garages. At the "Officials" this amount would be more than more - they change the candle technology only with the removal of the collector. Still had to change the rear brake discs and pads, but these are consumables.

I will service a car once every seven thousand mileage kilometers. Oil fill only Shell Helix. Ultra 5W-30 requires about 7.5 liters of oil. Together with filters, oil and replacement I give about 200 rubles. Motor chain, but the chain has not changed yet. And here drive belt Replaced immediately after purchase, the tariff is about $ 100 + about 30 dollars the cost of work.

If we talk about the minuses of the model, here I am obliged to mention the air conditioner fan and the shuttle valve of the ABS block. I have already changed the first detail: I bought it with disassembly and restored it. I walked around such a repair of 85 dollars (50 rubles per fan and 120 rubles for work). With the shuttle valve of the ABS block, there are less problems - having minimal skills of working with an electrician, it can be restored by itself.

In general, Land Rover Discovery II - great car For hunters and fishermen, and just for those who love to leisure. He will drive there where others are afraid to enjoy. There is enough of my problems, I do not argue. But who does not have them? But after buying such a car, even thoughts change it does not arise. Only if on the same new Discovery!

Opinion of a specialist

- This time we will talk about the technical part of the Land Rover Discovery II, - began the story of the master of the workshop service station "Shate-M Plus" Denis Nikštetus. - Turbated 2.5-liter diesel engine (who became the world's first 5-cylinder diesel engine with electronic fuel injection for a all-wheel drive vehicle), which is equipped with Discovery, did not lose its relevance, due to an increase in the maximum torque to 340 N · m, it became more attractive. Incredibly, the direct engine allows Discovery to confidently go along the highway with a heavy trailer, and in conditions of complete off-road.

The standard equipment of the SUV includes ABS, the capabilities of which are supplemented with an EBD brake force dispenser and the traction force control system that warns the wheel slip during acceleration on slippery coating and, if necessary, blocking differentials.

On cars made after 2001, modernized pump-nozzles appeared, which are found such a malfunction as flowing fuel. The diesel fuel flows into the cylinders, which leads to oil contamination and an increase in its level in the CARTER. Another problem is to flow the sealing rings of pump-nozzles, which is why the engine oil begins to mix with the diesel. And if the rings were worn out, they need to be changed. Of the other breakdowns of the diesel engine, you can call the failure of the air flow meter, the turbine valve, fuel pressure regulator, podaching fuel pump in the tank.

The automatic transmission of ZF production does not cause complaints, especially when the car mileage is not too big. After 250-300 thousand km, repair is already possible. The mechanical transmission is reliable, only after 150 thousand km do not hold synchronizers, sometimes the flywheel breaks. When buying a car with mileage, more than 100 thousand km must check how the clutch on the manual transmission works.

In the period from 1998 to 2002, Discovery II was equipped with a dispensing box without mechanical blocking of the mid-sieve differential (or rather, it was on many machines, but it was simply not connected at the factory). Apparently, in Land Rover, they counted that in the case of slipping the wheels, electronics cope with all problems. After restyling on Discovery, it began to establish a proven blocking of the mid-sieve differential.

The dispensing box on Discovery II often leaks. Installing new seals is needed, but after that, after 20-30 thousand km, they can again flow. Sometimes "zaplinivit" gearbox. The front cardan shaft fails due to broken cross. In the entire transmission on Discovery II applies only synthetic oilWhat affects the cost of it.

Discovery II has a hard dependent suspensionsuitable for off-road. Minus such a design is a loss of manageability at high speeds. Therefore, Land Rover Discovery II was set to order the ACE brand system.

In terms of the reliability of the Ace system, there are no special complaints, although sometimes the pipeline tube, and it happens, the stabilization system pump fails, pneumatic adjustment road Suit The rear axis of the junk, especially if you leave off the road. For off-road it is better to "translate" to the springs.

On the Land Rover Discovery II there are ordinary strong ball supports. IN rear suspension There is nothing to break beyond the shock absorbers, in the front it is necessary to change the bushings of stabilizers. Each 50-80 thousand km is wearing steering thrust, brake discs, and after 80-100 thousand km, as a rule, the turn of the shock absorbers.

Body Land Rover Discovery II strong, made of rolled steel. Special problems with him are not experienced.

Our partners from Shatte-M Plus prepared table of value of the main parts and work per hundred For Land Rover Discovery II 2003 release.

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Question price

The SUV described in the article, judging by the ads in our catalog A.Tut.by, you can buy only $ 9,000. Basic competitors and classmates Discovery II - Mitsubishi Pajero and Toyota Land Cruiser. Prado. The first SUV costs from $ 7,500, and the Land Cruiser Prado of this year turned out to be more expensive of competitors - its value in our catalog begins with $ 13,000.

At the time of the debut of the Land Rover Discovery of the second generation, SUVs still knew how much useful. Such cars were purchased not for the sake of emotions, but for real trips outside the highway. From here and the valor who was famous for soughs from the 90s.

Discovery 2 is much smaller than his rivals from Japan. However, not everyone needs a huge car.

At the same time, customers wanted their cars to be at least a little civilized - allowed to comfortably overcome long-distance routes. These two, at first glance, contrary to each other characteristics and tried to combine the British. As a result, a Land Rover Discovery was turned out, which was more cultural than a defenter, but less luxurious than Range Rover.

Initially, Land Rover and did not think about creating another generation Discovery, deciding to limit the usual update. But the modernization was so deep that it was decided to count the model for the next generation. Changes affected many areas. The body was almost completely recycled, with the exception of minor details. In the first disco, the whole body, not counting the roof, was made of aluminum. The successor also received steel doors.

Discovery 2 became longer than 18 centimeters, most of which went to an increase in the trunk. But the main drawback remained - a small wheelbase (254 cm only). Nevertheless, on the rear high set seats Not as closely. Additional centimeters over their heads were carved, slightly raising the roof. However, high passengers may experience discomfort, since the eyes turn out to be at the level of the bulkhead between the door and side ceiling windows. Another problem is narrow doors.

Among the proposals, you can meet 7-seater modifications. The third row is not too comfortable. But for short distances, it will be completely coming. True, if you do not use it for a long time, the backs of folding chairs cease to be recorded in the right position.

Wealth and aristocracy

It is not difficult to find richly equipped with copies on the market. Still, this car bought British aristocrats to ride a hunt. Inside can be found: leather upholstery, climate control, audio system Harman Kardon, cruise control and full "electropacket", including electric drives.

Restyled models (after 2002) are distinguished by dual round reflectors of front optics (instead of one rectangular), new rear lanterns, recycled brakes (though, their effectiveness has not changed), thicker rails, improved acoustic comfort (at the expense of new door seals, silent blocks, a second graduation silencer and less noisy crushing).

Everything is good while working

One of the curious elements of the Land Rover Discovery 2 is a full drive system. Its "modernization" is a real puzzle and proof of full chaos, which is working in the time of design work.

The torque is transmitted constantly on all four wheels through the inter-sieve differential. Approximately 2001, blocking was installed, but lacked the lever for its inclusion. To activate, I had to leave the salon. Fortunately, the connection itself was not complicated. However, in 2001, the blocking was seized from the list of equipment and returned only at the very end - in 2004. This time, with full-fledged civilized management.

The car, in accordance with the status of the SUV, is equipped with two hard bridges. Classical solutions guarantee reliability, strength and good opportunities on the ground, but worse manifest itself on asphalt coatings. In Discovery II, in all conditions, the challenges does not occur, especially in the presence of self-leveling SLS suspension. The steering is fairly accurate, and the manageability is definitely better than Mitsubishi Pajero.

Behind the wheel, discovery is difficult to get rid of the feeling that the center of gravity is too high, and the car is about to the tip. But not with the bizarre and useful ACE system (Active Cornering Enhancement) is a hydraulic system of controlling stabilizers. Thanks to her, "disco" has great movements of the suspension on the off-road, and when moving along the motorway, the body is not very cubed.

Ace, like pneumatic bullons from behind - option. Combines both systems one: low reliability. In the case of Ace fails hydraulic pumpor leaks fluid. In pneumatics, the problem delivers a compressor or a prudged pillow.

Those who are planning to take advantage of the British SUV on purpose, specialists recommend dismantling the complex suspension elements and establish conventional springs. There are enough tuning sets on the market, ranging from shock absorbers and ending with springs designed for various loads. Sellers, pointing in ads the word "springs", thereby make it possible to understand that in this instance of the above defects will not be. As for the metal-rubber elements of the chassis, they differ in uncommon strength.

Engines

Among the proposals most of the market occupy diesel versions with the TD5 engine. It has five cylinders, but only four incandescent candles. The direct fuel injection is carried out by electronically controlled pump-nozzles. Such Discovery consumes about 10-11 l / 100 km and provides performance below the expected. SUV heavy and not aerodynamic. More than a 2-ton disco with a 4-speed automaton accelerates to hundreds for infinite 20 seconds. In addition to automatic transmission, the Briton was completed with 5-speed mechanics. By the way, both boxes should be carefully checked before buying. In the event of a malfunction, the repair will be expensive.

TD5 has nothing to do with BMW, as it is considered, but is a continuation of the development of the old diesel Rover. L. His real problem is the complete lack of new nozzles for cars 1999-2001, complying with EURO-2 standard. In later modifications, TD5 complies with Euro-3 standards, and new nozzles can be purchased at a price of 15,000 rubles per piece. So, if you are interested in the diesel version, then only after 2002. For TD5, it is characteristic: the failure of the fuel pressure regulator, the bypass valve in the supervision system, the weakening of the oil pump bolts (leads to a pressure drop in the lubrication system), and the need to periodically replace the nozzle control detergent. With age wear out and fuel pump. Expensive damage to the head of the cylinder block or gasket leads to mixing oil with coolant. The main thing is to check oil Prope And look under the cover of the filling neck of the oil into the engine, in the coolant tank and the radiator to make sure there are no characteristic deposits (impurities).

Such problems completely bypassed gasoline modifications with V8 of 4.0 and 4.6 liters. Both engines also have British roots. In the past, the owners faced with premature wear Block liners and heads. Currently many petrol aggregates Remote to work on liquefied gas.

All motors have a chain type timing type. Among the general problems can be noted oil leakage from under seals distribution Vala.. Considering the age of the model, flowing from the engine seals and transmission is a common phenomenon. Moreover, even during the warranty service, the German services recorded all sorts of oil leaks about half of the disco.

Myths or suffering?

Fans of SUVs are conventionally divided into two camps. Some believe that there is nothing better than the "Japanese" led by Land Cruiser, and Land Rover is the worst brand in the world. Others, consider exactly the opposite. And yet, Land Rover Discovery 2 at the age will be more costly than japanese SUVs. Briton has an unusual design and needs specialized service. Concerning supplies, then everything is available and rather cheap. Specific equipment will require serious investment. For example, compressor pneumatic suspension (about 45 000 rubles) or block valves of the ACE system (28 000 rubles).

Among typical faults Uncooked DISCO It is possible to note the discharge of the electronic pedal, wear of the hinges of the cardan shaft, the jamming of the door locks and the trunk lid, failure the ABS sensors and the contamination of electrical contacts. And how many troubles in due time delivered an immobilizer sensitive to impact external sources interference. Power lines, radio signal control of the garage doors and the similar one once was paralyzed by an SUV. Fortunately, to launch the engine, it was enough to move the car meters for 200. Sometimes rainwater penetrates into the salon. Shallow smell must alert you.

Giving for a decent dyskovery 400-450 thousand rubles, it is necessary to be prepared for investments in the amount of 50,000 rubles. This is a starting package for a car diligently serviced in a specialized workshop. SUVs with dubious past will require higher costs.

Conclusion

So is it worth afraid of Land Rover Discovery 2? Maybe. First, he needs special care. Secondly, some components are not available. The English SUV is a car with a special character that does not save on the road. However, find a well-kept instance will not be easy.

Specifications Land Rover Discovery 2 (1999-2004)

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Last year, Land Rover showed a completely new Discovery, however, we will now talk about the more affordable first generation of this car, which has been produced from 1989 to 1998. Initially, Discovery was conceived as a cross between the too utilitarian Defender, which in its comfort can compare except with our "UAZ", and the luxurious Range Rover. Despite the fact that Discovery has opened for Land Rover New Market niche, nothing fundamentally new in this car was not. But he has a great advantage over his fellows - this is a relatively acceptable price that combined with a good level of comfort. And Discovery's permeability was at the level - here he inherited all the best from Defender. Including the landing of the driver - the seat is specially close as possible to the door, to better feel the dimensions of the car (it helps it in the city, allowing you to squeeze into the gap between the machines, leaving the gaps of millimeters).

As for competition with similar SUVs of other firms, then Discovery had, perhaps, the chief trump card. This is the name of the manufacturer. In the late 80s, the Land Rover brand was already promoted very seriously, and many motorists believed that this company produces the world's best car off-road. And here you need to immediately warn - buy a used Land Rover Discovery only because of the glorious halo of the off-road conqueror is not worth it. By the way, you do not need to take this car and because of its low price. Otherwise, you can get seriously disappointed both in the Discovery itself, and in all Land Rover brand.

Rust happens white!

The overwhelming majority of the Land Rover Discovery of the first generation have a familiar 5-door body. However, the British were made by 3-door cars, which, however, used not the greatest demand (as a result, after 1998 they stop producing). Discovery is based on the most powerful frame, which is rightfully considered to be eternal. The body of the car is not at all aluminum, as very often you can hear. It is steel, and from the "winged" metal made only the hood, front and rear wings, as well as outdoor lining on the doors (iron doors themselves). It is believed that the use of aluminum completely removes the problem of natural body destruction. But the owners of Land Rover Discovery can only skeptically smisly by reading these words. They know that the body iron of their cars some places, where aluminum concerns ordinary steel (this is just about the door), it begins to actively oxidize. At the same time, the metal is covered in a kind of white scale, and then at all begins to crumble - sometimes you can even move the piece of outdoor doors with your hands. That is why when buying a Discovery of the first generation, you must first of all inspect the front door (where it is in contact with the metal part), all edges of other doors and other "dangerous" places. And in the future, when traces of oxidation, it is necessary not to pull the rubber and contact the service where there are special putty and primers.

There are aluminum and one more disadvantage, which manifests itself only in the event of accidents. The fact is that aluminum requires more painstaking recovery of rimpled elements, and often the rattovka is not possible at all. And then you have to look for iron on "disassembly" or buy new details. The price of the latter, as you understand, considerable. For example, the wing is worth about $ 290 (for not original). But if you need to replace a new bumper ($ 320), you can go to cunning and buy in stores specializing in SUVs, very strong steel tuning bumpers that cost from $ 900 to $ 1.5 thousand. At the same time, such bumpers already have places for the installation of winch and Additional optics, as well as Kangurin.

Equipment of Land Rover Discovery is usually rich enough. Although the three-door versions of the first years of release were absolutely "empty." SUVs with five doors in obligatory Have a necessary electric car with a comfortable ride. The richest equipment that appeared after restyling 1994 is called ES. According to their "frills", such Discovery can even compete with Range Rover (the salon is decorated with leather and wood, there is a powerful musical system, climatic installation etc.). By the way, in the first years of the car of the air conditioner in the basic equipment was not, but after the modernization it appeared on all Discovery. Inside the Discovery place is not so much, as it may seem at first glance. Despite the impressive dimensions, they are not particularly walking in the cabin. Although it is not going to call him close language, even the haters of the British car industry.

The quality of the Land Rover salon assembly can be called good, but on cars which has already been 10 years old and more all sorts of buildings are a normal phenomenon. Also on old cars sometimes begins to "bug" an electrician. This is mainly due to bad contacts, but the owner is not easier from this - such trifles, usually, very annoying. So if when buying a car, it is noted that some lantern or stop signal works, then it may have to suffer from the electrician. Driving power windows on the first generation discovery to date may also stop work. The reason for this lies usually in cut gear in the drive or (occasionally) in the electronic block. In the latter case, the purchase of a new part will cost $ 160 (on the disassembly they can sometimes be found for $ 50-70). The owners of Land Rover Discovery made up to 1995 complain about the poorly working "stove", which first begins to blow barely even at high speed, and then ceases to fulfill their duties. The electric motor is to blame for this, but it is necessary to change the whole stove assembly. And this is $ 500 for the detail plus another $ 250-300 for work (for this you have to remove all torpedoes). However, on the motor, you can safely save, putting the item from our "eight" for $ 10 (at the same time you will have to cut a tiny piece of plastic from the car, although it turns out not always).

And I want to ourselves

In the overwhelming majority of cases, Land Rover Discovery has either gasoline "eight" with a volume of 3.5 liters. or 3.9 liters or 2.5-liter turbodiesel. However, not everyone knows that under the hood Discovery also installed a 4-cylinder gasoline engine with a volume of 2.0 l., Which was given 136 hp. Perhaps the only advantage of such cars is that their "customs clearance" is cheaper. As the experience of operating such SUVs shows, the resource of the 2.0-liter unit is the lowest compared to the rest of the motors, and it is also clearly not enough.

If I want to save on fuel, it is better to look for a much more reliable diesel engine, which in city ride requires 100 km. Runs about 10-13 liters. Soynery. Despite the fact that the diesel volume has always been 2.5 liters., Until 1994, such Discovery had the designation of 200TDI, and then they began to call 300TDI. The first time the diesel was issued 107 hp, and since 1995 due to new system Food is already 113 hp (Sometimes it is indicated 111 hp). It is clear that Disel Discovery does not shine dynamic characteristics (Acceleration 0-100 km / h is the endless 18.5 seconds), but this motor loves for reliability, unpretentiousness and excellent craving at Nizakh. For off-road driving, the last factor is of great importance. Naturally, when buying Discovery 200TDI or 300TDI, you need to carefully check the operation of the turbine and inspect it from all sides (it is better to trust the master specializing in diesel engines). After all, if the turbine is at death, the purchase of used will cost a decent money - about $ 400 (as a new one is asked from $ 800).

In addition, the driver of the car must remember that the Land Rover diesel engine requires only high-quality consumables (the filters are better to take only the original). Sometimes diesel engines overheat, which may eventually lead to a fairly sad end - in such cases, the cylinder head is usually under the replacement (repairs in total pulls by $ 1.7 thousand). It is necessary to immediately say that when doubting the reliability of the power unit from buying a car it is better to refuse, because overhaul It stands here very big money (for example, the new crankshaft pulls $ 900).

But still, more often on the secondary market there are Discovery with a V8 gasoline engine. The first years of the eight of the Eight had a volume of 3.5 liters, and the power system consisted of two carburetors (152 hp), but since September 1993, Discovery began to equip the 3.9-liter injector motor (182 hp). These horses are already enough for a confident ride not only on dirt, but also in the city. Moreover, the drivers of such cars especially appreciate even the possibility without any special problems accelerate over 150 km / h, and the reserve of traction in the entire turn range, which can only give a large engine in terms of volume. But it is not recommended to install speed records on Discovery. This is a classic SUV, which is simply not created to pass turns with the rear axle. And often such frills end in the revolution of the car.

The V8 gasoline engine is considered to be quite reliable. But there are enough complaints about it, so that the power unit should be checked with special care. According to the masters, sometimes the gasoline "eight" requires serious repairs already when running about 100 thousand km. Usually it is necessary to eliminate the backstage of the camshaft that appeared that, together with Remkomplekt and the work, it costs about $ 500-900 (after that, however, the camshaft is no longer delivered).

The car radiators are also required (on some machines they are already four pieces), since they on our roads are quite quickly clogged with mud and down, which significantly worsens their performance. Butter and filters, of course, it is necessary to change strictly according to the instructions, and on our roads it is desirable and a little earlier than the prescribed period. By the way, during the installation of the new gasoline filter, buying one filter ($ 20), as a rule, it cannot be separated. Experience shows that it is best to immediately have a remptomplekt benzofilter ($ 65), since the old one, for sure, cannot be unscrewed. But still the main disadvantage of the V8 gasoline engine is very big flow Fuel. Of course, a lot depends on the driver, but practice shows that with a more or less active ride in the conditions of the city for every 100 km. It takes about 18-25 liters. So buying a used Discovery V8 needs to be carefully counted, but whether there is enough money for its content, because in addition to the cost of fuel, the owner periodically will have to carry out any minor work on repair / maintenance of the power unit and its hinged equipment. For example, often in spare parts stores, the fuel pump is asked, which is worth $ 155 in the original performance.

Take care of your balls

If the car is most of time exploited in the city, then as a gearbox, it is better to choose a 4-speed "automatic" production of the famous German company ZF. Although it requires a little large service costs, but is more reliable. It is except that sometimes on the rolled copies that have traveled a lot of off-road, there is a slotted connection between the "distribution" and the box itself. At the same time, it is often necessary not only to disassemble the mechanisms, but also change the intermediate shaft of the "automaton" and the gear of the input shaft from the "Distribution". In general, this repair is quite decent ($ 500). By the way, it can also be happening with the "mechanics" (in this case, the replacement is the secondary shaft of the PPC ($ 900 - 1400).

Manual boxes are two types. The first is denoted by LT77 (such a gearbox was set until 1995). It is considered more reliable, but the later R380 appeared with synchronized rear transmission There may be problems. Already in 70-100 thousand km. The mileage can fail the synchronizers (usually the first and fifth gear is stopped first. Repairs in this case will require more than $ 500. To determine which type of "mechanics" is set pretty simple - if the rear is turned on right and down, then it means that it is R380, and if left-up - LT77. By the way, you need to immediately warn you finding the cheap used boxes on the market is very difficult. average price For the "living", the "mechanics" is $ 1-1.2 thousand (with a guarantee).

The big plus of Land Rover Discovery is that it is equipped with a constant full drive system that does not need to include when entering off-road. In addition, there is an interstitial differential and a lower transmission, but the interclause standard equipment, Unfortunately no. The dispensing box does not demonstrate the wonders of reliability - it often happens, and the owner of the car must constantly monitor the oil level (if it should be ride without it for a short time, then you will have to buy a new "distribution"). If the deputy box glands flows very actively, then you can also put new ones - it will cost about $ 300. Capable to throw unpleasant surprises and other elements of the full drive system: may fail the gearbox, the inter-axis differential, kartan crossmen, etc.

It has repeatedly stated that Discovery was originally designed as an SUV. Therefore, he has no complex independent suspensions that allow you to improve the smoothness of the stroke and handling. Instead of them, in front and behind, there are tough beam bridges that provide excellent permeability and high reliability. However, the suspension I. steering car Nevertheless requires periodic financial injections. And considerable. For example, the weak point of the first generation of Discovery are the front large swivel balls, which over time are covered with scratches and small chops. This often leads to an accelerated wear of the anther, and dirt and moisture begins inside the ball. It is worth a slightly ride on such a car, as the balls themselves will go under the replacement, but also shrus, hub bear etc. And this will require about $ 500-900 for each wheel! The cost of replacing one turning ball with spare parts is about $ 250. By the way, you need to even remember that in the balls it is necessary to periodically pour oil (until 1995 it is an ordinary transmission, and then a special lubricant appeared).

The second place to pay attention to is the hydraulic gearbox. It flows on very many Land Rover various models made in the 80s - the first half of the 90s. It must be said that if some service promises to repair the gearbox without his disassembly, then it's better to leave there, because the glands replaced there will swell, most likely, very quickly. So what to say how much the repair of the gearbox costs, it's quite difficult with the go, but you usually need to prepare for costs in the amount of $ 300-600. More serious chronic diseases in the running Discovery seems to be no. But there are minor. So, periodically appears the backlash in the bearings of the front hubs, but it costs it relatively inexpensively - $ 55 together with work. After run 100 thousand km. The shock absorbers are often wearing ($ 75 for the original with work). But the failure of the sensors of the ABS can be equated yet to serious costs - the non-original part costs $ 180 (over time, the sensors have wiring).

Operation of the Used Land Rover Discovery of the first generation may require decent financial costs. Despite the glorious name, Discovery has near weak places. And the repair of the car is usually decent. However, there are many people who are willing to put up with the cons of Discovery. They are attracted not only by the brand of the SUV, shrouded in legends, but also the fact that around the world, Land Rover cars are considered machines for drivers who know their price and are able to not succumb to all sorts of fleeting modes of fashion. That is why Land Rover Discovery is often referred to as a real English gentleman.

Excursion

In 1947, the development of the first SUV brand Land Rover began in England, who had to become an assistant for local farmers in their difficult work. New car I managed to do enough quickly and already at the end of April 1948 at the Amsterdam car dealement took place the debut of the first Land Rover. By the way, the cost of an SUV at the end of the 40s was 450 pounds of sterling in the UK, which was not so much for the car.

Initially, the Land Rover SUVs (subsequently the first model of the company received the name Defender) was an extremely utilitarian means of movement. However, later it became clear that many people need not just to drive through the mud, but to do it with comfort. And in 1970, Range Rover was shown. And in 1989 another model appeared, which occupied an intermediate position between Defender and Range Rover. It was Land Rover Discovery.

First, Land Rover Discovery had only a 3-door body, but then 5-door machines appeared. The car was equipped with 3.5 liter gasoline engines, as well as a 2.5-liter diesel engine.

In 1991, the first slight restyling model was held. A little later in 1994, Discovery has undergone another modernization (such cars can be distinguished by other dashboard). In the same 1994, instead of an engine with a volume of 3.5 liters. Under the hood of the car began to install a 3.9-liter gasoline motor, by the way, it is worth noting that in the period from 1992 to 1995, Land Rover Discovery was sold in Japan. And he was called Honda Crossroad.

In 1998, the second generation of Land Rover Discovery was shown. Externally, the first and second Discovery is very similar to each other. However, the car made after 1998 got rid of many shortcomings that were inherent in the first generation. It should also be noted that electronics began to master in the full drive system, although a lot of complaints came to it later. Land Rover Discovery II was equipped with a 3.9-liter gasoline engine V8 (185 hp), as well as a 2.5-liter 5-cylinder diesel (137 hp).

In 2002, the second generation Discovery was seriously modernized. According to representatives of the English company, hundreds of changes were made to the design, although appearance The cars remained almost the same.

And in 2004 it appeared fundamentally new land Rover Discovery, which has nothing to do with predecessors. The new SUV began to establish a 4.4 liter Jaguar Motor V8. (295 hp) and 4.0-liter unit V6 (215 hp). There is also a 2.7-liter diesel V6. The last engine, by the way, was developed jointly by Ford and PSA specialists (we recall that since 2000, Land Rover has passed under the control of Ford).

Denis Smolyanov
02/2005

Diesel engine 2.7 TD possessed both models, and Discovery 3, and Discovery 4. This engine was installed on Discovery 3 throughout the entire period of its release, i.e. From 2005 to 2009, on Discovery 4 - in the period from 2010 to 2012.

Diesel engine 2.7 TD is a row V-shaped six, a six-cylinder engine, respectively, in a diesel version with one turbine. That is, one turbine with a variable geometry is installed on this engine.

What features this engine has. The engine is not the most reliable, but unfortunately in 90% of cases in the discovery 3d space you will observe it. First problem this engine, in principle, the owner of this model is experiencing, this is an EGR valve, i.e. Exhaust gas recycling valve. On this engine directly two of them: the left valve and the right valve. As the service practice shows the EGR valve, on average somewhere for two years, after which it needs to be changed, because on the instrument panel lights up the hanging check.

The second malfunction of which has a given engine - this is a blank air nozzle that is installed on the body throttle valve. This pipe becomes oak and it simply bursts, as a result of what, respectively, you get the registration code for insufficient supervision. From exhaust pipe go smoke, and accordingly, the indication of the engine malfunction on the instrument panel. Therefore, this nozzle must be changed in a timely, at least once every 2-3 years without waiting for it to burst.

2.7 TD engine fuel equipment Unfortunately no particular reliability and often happens so on the run after 150,000 km, you bring the registration of the R0087 code to the service, namely low fuel pressure. As a rule, the registration of this code occurs due to the mechanical fault of the fuel pump high pressure (TNVD). It is this pump that creates the highest pressure that is necessary for the normal operation of the diesel engine. In addition to the TNLD there are six more injectors three per each way and directly the fuel ramps themselves, but in addition to this in the tank. submersible pump.

In case the high-pressure fuel pump fails and since our system has a fuel drain line, i.e. Excess fuel falls back to the tank, then it usually falls into the tank already with wear products, namely with a metal chip. In this case, you have to shoot fuel tank, rinse the fuel equipment, change unfortunately the submersible pump, which is installed in the tank, because rinse directly the submersible pump itself from the chips, you simply can not. We will have to install a new TNVD, we will recommend installing new fuel ramps, because it is also impossible to rinse them. And only then will we start performing control launch of DVS. In the event that it will work perfectly and recording the code will not be, then we will give you such a car as a customer. In 10% of the probabilities of cases, it will be necessary to replace the engine control unit, the so-called PCM.

Fighting low fuel pressure, if you do it in human for myself, it is really expensive and can do you somewhere about 200,000 rubles. If you plan to leave the car and exploit further, then such a repair can be carried out in principle and the next five years to themselves additional attention fuel apparatus and fuel system I will no longer ask.

Turbocharger on the engine 2.7 TD has a function of changing geometry, i.e. You have installed an actuator, a drive and correspondingly moving cassettes that are responsible for the productivity of the direct turbocharger, i.e. Responsible for how much you need to promote the turbine.

Unfortunately, these drives also have a problem or a problem with the actuator, or the geometry directly occurs, or fails the turbine. It is not on every second car, but it is often found, perhaps due to the fact that the car is really not the first freshness. So malfunctions with turbines can not be excluded too.

Bypass pipe that connects two exhaust manifolds, because Engine V-shaped six, then, accordingly, there is a left graduation collector and the right exhaust manifold, but the turbine is one. These two manifold connects the bypass pipe, and it happens that this pipe is roasted, and often for this reason there was a ignition of the car. This is also very important moment Behind which you need to follow, shoot and watch. It manifests itself infrequently, but in order to accomplish this repair, i.e. Restore the previously installed tube, which can be in principle to repair in specialized organizations, or in order to establish it a new one for a good need to dismantle the body from the frame. Some masters are changed without a breakdown of the body, remove the automatic transmission to get to it, because it is installed in the back and change.

To drive the gas distribution mechanism on the engine 2.7 TD used the timing belt. The Rules for replacing the timing belt is 120 00 - 130,000 km in running. Despite the fact that the first regulation was once every 168,000 km factory, the manufacturer left these numbers, because on this mileage Already happened belt cloths. The fuel pump of high pressure (TNVD) of which was mentioned above the engine installed in the rear part is driven by a similar belt, respectively, the rules for replacing the timing belt implies more, and the replacement of the TNVD belt, and in addition it also implies the replacement of the belt Auxiliary aggregates. In case you do not have the opportunity to replace all these three belts, then change at least one timing belt, thereby configuring yourself from its cliff and premature failure of the engine. If the TNTVD belt breaks, the engine will simply stall on the go. Yes, it will be unpleasant, it will be a tow truck, but, as a rule, there are no such situations. If you break up the drive belt of the auxiliary units, here it is necessary to understand that auxiliary aggregates We will stand, such as, charging generator, a hydraulic power generator, you will experience inconvenience due to the fact that the steering will be spinning much more effort, you will have charging, the fault indication lights up on the instrument panel. But with all this, the engine will not suffer. Therefore, once every 120,000 - 130,000 km, the timing belt must be changed.

Another of the problems of this engine is the front oil crankshaft. It happens often so that at low negative temperatures, as a rule, from -10 degrees, after the night parking you run the engine, this gland is extruded, and almost the entire oil volume follows from the engine. The solution to this problem exists. The oil pump of a new sample with a modified landing place is released under the gland. As the service practice shows, in case you have occurred extrusion of the front kettle, install a new pump, a new gland and problems with this no longer arises. In addition, the pump of a new sample has increased productivity.

The worst thing that is in the 2.7 TD engine is a malfunction of a crank-connecting mechanism, i.e. Fault of a piston group. Two problems: the first is the turn of the liners, the second - the breakdown of the crankshaft in half in the literal sense of the word.

Plant Manufacturer does not provide details of this short block. Short block is a block of cylinders assembly, i.e. Block, pistons, crankshaft, connecting rods. The new short unit assembly is about 550,000 rubles (for November 2017). We carry out repairs short blocks, but you need to understand that such repairs will cost about 200,000 - 400,000 rubles, depending on your particular case. This is a huge minus of this engine. The solution is also there. But back 190 hp It is subject to minimal tax and consumption of this engine is somewhere about 10 liters per 100 km.

The Land Rover brand admirers are quite appreciated by the Discovery II model, which has been produced from the end of 1998 to 2004. It is believed that this car is disposed of many shortcomings inherent in the first Discovery.

Those who wish to have a used SUV should know - even the "second disco" has a number of features, and some branded "diseases" remained, and not only technical. So, if the car is bought for off-road driving, it is recommended to immediately replace bumpers (at least anterior), frankly interfering in the bouanes movement. The fact is that made of stroke plastic front bumper It hangs too low, even a slight contact with a snowdrift often leads to its breakdown. The removed whole bumpers is better to sell through the repair workshops "Land Rover" or "disassembly", and instead, install steel tuning (approximately $ 600-1500 each).

The most "cheap" Land Rover Discovery II was equipped with a gasoline engine V8 of 4.6 liters with a capacity of 220 hp (This power unit appeared under the hood "Disco" after the modernization of 2002, it was mainly put on the cars sent to the USA). This unit made Discovery pretty fast car, After all, up to 100 km / h heavy SUV accelerated for 9.5 s, although, if you think, there was no particular point in such a motor. After all, Land Rover Discovery II does not most best behave at high speeds. Therefore, if you want to have a powerful and fast Discovery, it is enough to look for a car with a gasoline V8 volume of 4.0 l, which had 185 hp. But it is necessary to immediately say that even if the gasoline motor works like a clock, it still retains its large drawback - fuel consumption. When moving in Moscow goes on average 22 liters per 100 km of way! In addition, some drivers complain about its noise.

Diesel, of course, in terms of fuel economy is much more preferable. With a volume of 2.5 liters and power 138 hp His fuel consumption will be in the city of 13-15 liters of diesel fuel, and on the highway, this figure is lowered to 9-10 liters. It is necessary to recognize - diesel succeeded in glory (not in vain, because under the hood of 70-80% of the Discovery II sold in Russia worth it. This 5-cylinder engine has minimal vibrations, works without a pump (there are direct injection pumps in cylinders) and so on. The more good diesel is, this is the presence of heating the fuel drained back into the fuel tank (in this way, during the movement of the diesel fuel does not freeze in winter). By the way, there are ways to increase the power of the diesel engine, and almost without prejudice to its resource. One of the easiest - installation of the adjusting tuning kit ($ 850).
And in this case, with the dynamics of Discovery 2.5 TD5 there will be no problems.

But again, it was not without a spoon of tar - on cars made after 2001, modernized nozzles pumps appeared (they were made to perform tightened environmental norms). So, there sometimes there is such a malfunction as flowing fuel. The diesel fuel flows into the cylinders (and only on the unused engine), which leads to oil contamination and an increase in its level in the crankcase. Each pump-nozzle costs $ 400-700, plus $ 70 master for work. Another problem is to flow sealing rings of the pumps-injectors, which is why the engine oil again begins to mix with the diesel fuel. And if the rings were proud, they must be quickly changed ($ 120 with work). From other characteristic breakdowns of the diesel engine, the failure of the air flow meter ($ 180), the turbine valve ($ 35), the fuel pressure regulator ($ 190), the fuel pump of the paging mounted in the tank ($ 450).

In general, diesel, even despite its complex design, turned out to be quite reliable. However, "experienced" strongly advise him to check it very carefully, and this should only be done by an experienced specialist. After all, if something breaks in the diesel, the repair will cost big money. So, may fail the turbine (actually it has a good resource, but this item is not eternal). Fortunately, neoriginal turbines for $ 900 have now appeared on sale (branded is more than $ 1500).

V8 Land Rover Discovery gasoline engines have always differed high reliability. However, "Land Rover" would not be "Land Rover" if it were power units They did not prevent unpleasant surprises: there are cases where the overhaul of the gasoline engine had to be done after 100-120 thousand km, and even despite regular maintenance. Details that provide engine operation can be broken. So, the weakest place of the Land Rover SUV is a fuel pump, which even in a non-original form costs $ 150-200 (in the case of a diesel engine, it can be determined by loss of power). It still happens that the engine cooling radiator ($ 350) flows.

If we talk about the reliability of gearboxes, then the ACP of production ZF does not cause complaints from masters, especially when the car mileage is not too big (after 250-300 thousand km is already possible repairs worth about $ 1500). The mechanical box usually does not cause trouble, although sometimes in it after 150 thousand km "fly" synchronizers, the replacement of which will cost $ 700 (even sometimes cars with a "manual" box breaks the flywheel worth $ 500). You can advise when buying a car with a mileage of more than 100 thousand km to see how the clutch on a mechanical CP works, because its replacement on Land Rover will cost a decent amount (installing a new set will require $ 500).

Now about the system of full drive, for which the second Discovery got a lot ... Critics! Yes, Jeepers were extremely unhappy with this SUV, because in the period from 1998 to 2002, Discovery II was equipped with a dispensing box without mechanical blocking of the mid-scene differential (or rather, on many cars it was, but it was simply not connected at the factory). Apparently, in "Land Rover" considered that in the case of slipping the wheels, electronic "brains" will cope with all the problems (the computer itself solved what the wheel must be slowed down at one time or another). The "fidelled" transmission showed itself far from the best way - in mud electronics in many cases poorly coped with her duties, and Land Rover Discovery gave birth to gloomily where the less famous SUVs were calm. After restyling on Discovery, it began to establish a proven blocking of the mid-sieve differential. And the owners of the first annual release machines can remake a little "distribution" and get the possibility of mechanical blocking.

Like many models of Land Rover, transfer case Discovery II often leaks. Installing new seals costs about $ 300, but after that, through a year, they can again progress. In addition, sometimes "rolled" the gearbox (the cost of eliminating leaks is $ 150 with work), as well as the front card shaft. The last cost of $ 1,000 fails due to the "dead" cross. Dealers do not have the right to change the crossmen, but at informal stations, the literate masters can perform this operation. It can be noted that in the entire transmission on Discovery II, only synthetic oil is used, which is somewhat affected by the cost. But thanks to the "synthetics", the lubricant of transmission parts has significantly improved and their resource has seriously increased.

Discovery II has a rigid dependent suspension, a perfectly suitable off-road conqueror. However, the reverse side of the medal of this design was the loss of controllability at high speeds. That is why Land Rover Discovery II was established (though only for extra charge) ACE corporate anti-stabilizer system, including stabilizers transverse stability with hydraulic drives. With it in the corners of the body practically not carnating! But do not think that Discovery equipped with ACE system becomes a sports car. Still, this is a frame SUV, and according to the laws of the genre, it simply cannot have handling, like a sports coupe.

There are no special complaints to the reliability of the ACE system, although sometimes the trunk tube flows, and it happens, the "Anticrene" pump fails ($ 700 - the original, $ 500 is non-original). But the pneumatic adjustment of the road lumen of the rear axle (also option) shalit, especially if you leave off-road. Experience has shown that pneumoballons ($ 340 per piece) can deliver trouble in frost (if there are some microcracks on them). In this case, the rear suspension can simply "be blown up" and no longer climb (it is worth noting that the pneumatic suspension can always be "translate" to the springs).

The suspension in the second Discovery is more reliable than the first. At least there are no notorious turning front "balls", which were pretty quickly worn and "killed" other elements of the chassis (as a result, the repair was worth $ 700-900 with the "balls"). At Land Rover Discovery II, instead of problem details, there are usual, very strong ball supports. In the rear suspension, in fact, there is nothing except shock absorbers, and in the front it is necessary to change only a penny bushings of stabilizers ($ 18 per pair). Well, plus to this every 50-80 thousand km, the steering thrust ($ 130 for non-original), brake discs ($ 100 - for the corporate and $ 70 - for non-original), and after 80-100 thousand km, as a rule, comes shock absorbers ($ 120 per piece, taking into account the work on replacement) and so on. However, once again we can say that, despite the absence of some serious weak points in the chassis, behind the suspension Land Rover Discovery II should be followed, because if it "run", the repair will cost very big money.

EXCURSION
The first generation of Land Rover Discovery was presented in 1989. The car took the empty market niche between the most utilitarian Defender and the most luxurious Range Rover.

The first generation of Discovery was released both in 3- and in the 5-door version. In the car body, aluminum was widely used (from it the hood, front and rear wings, outdoor pads per door). At the first "disco" installed gasoline engines volume of 2.0 l (136 hp), 3.5 liters (152 hp) and 3.9 l (182 hp), as well as a diesel engine of 2.5 l (107 hp ., 111 hp or 113 hp Depending on the year of release and settings). Together with the engine could be installed automatic or mechanical box Transmissions. Moreover, the last two species - until 1995 put LT77 (it is considered more reliable), and then the CP appeared under the designation R380.

Land Rover Discovery of the first generation survived two modernization. The first one took place at the end of 1992, and the second - in late 1994. In addition, it can be noted that in the period from 1992 to 1995, Discovery was sold in Japan under the name Honda Crossroad.

The second generation of Land Rover Discovery appeared in 1998. Outwardly, he turned out to be very similar to the first "disco", but in fact its design has undergone a global alteration. For example, fully drive I began to "refuel" the electronics whose work, however, I liked not to all fans of the brand "Land Rover". That is why after modernizing the car held in 2002, Discovery received a time-tested mechanical blocking of differential. Under the hood of Discovery II, you can meet gasoline engines V8 with a volume of 4.0 liters (185 hp), 4.6 liters (220 hp) and a diesel engine of 2.5 liters (138 hp).

Well, in 2004, the third generation of Land Rover Discovery with independent suspensions was presented. Under the hood Discovery III. The gasoline aggregates of 4.0 l (V6, 219 hp), 4.4 liters (V8, 300 hp) and a 2.7-liter diesel engine (V6, 190 hp).

Land Rover Discovery II is not just practical and enough reliable car - The car has its own character and style. In addition, the "second disco" was one of the few English SUVs, received from the consumer for the price / quality ratio of a strong "four". True, to buy a live legend - Discovery II - it is worth up with all responsibility. In mandatory, you need to diagnose the car from specialists, because if some malfunctions are found, repair will require large financial investments.