Renault Logan after 10 years of operation. Five things for which they love and hate Renault Logan. Noisy box with short gears

Renault Logan 2 phases (after 2008) is a machine that does not need a presentation. In it, if not driving, then on passenger seatProbably sat every second resident of the city. And it would seem, everything in this car is known. But only until it comes to buying it on secondary market. And here questions begin when it breaks, which breaks, how much it will cost. Now you will learn answers to these questions.

We will talk about Renault Logan 2013 release with a mileage of 70 thousand kilometers. The seller wants 310 thousand rubles for the car. As for the purchase of a new car, a second generation of model with a 1.6 liter engine is sold. The car has become prettier, more comfortable and functional inside.

Overall impression

Talk about general impressions is difficult, because Everyone has their own. In short, then Renault Logan 2 phases are average visibility, very small lateral mirrors, uncomfortable seats and weak, "strangled" engine. The obvious plus is a suspension that forgives actually any road adversity.

The sensations of any comfort, compared with classmates, does not attend. The work of the gearbox and engine, landing, finishing materials, etc. - all this is at a very middle level. Although, I must say, there are no crickets from the car. Among the same classmates with passersby mileage is a big rarity.

Owners of Loganov 1 generation Many disadvantages and cons are trying to justify the low cost of possession, they say, "show the condesception, the same budget car" Yes, the truth is there. But there are fundamental things, forgive that it is impossible. The first is a design. Yet some competitors, the interior looks much more nice. The second is the location of the buttons. They are not necessarily made for people, and it is difficult to get used to them.

But turn to K. technical side Question and find out the weaknesses of Renault Logan 2 phases.

Engine

For all the years of work, service centers specialists most often celebrate such main engine sores like leak forward glad crankshaftThe problem begins to manifest itself on mileage from 40 to 100 thousand kilometers, and the failure of the ignition coil. It does not withstand the temperature drops, it cracks over time, and the engine begins to trim.

In problems with the start of the engine happens guilty and fuel filter. Well, or, as many write on the Internet, his absence. Moreover, on the first phase Logan he was. Only the owners complained about his unsuccessful location and the French during restyling integrated it into the fuel pump. The decision is controversial, because From now on, the item only assembled. It is necessary to watch closely behind the timing belt.

Box

According to the same service centers, the most frequent sore, occurring on the second Logan, oil leakage from the left-hand drive mechanical transmission. Otherwise, there are no complaints to the gearbox. Or almost no. On the Internet, only lazy did not write about the rear transmission, which switches with a characteristic crunch. The whole thing is in the absence of a synchronizer. To not be, you need to squeeze the grip, wait 2 seconds and "stick" the transfer. Then the torque from the engine will have time to synchronize with torque on the box.

Suspension

During operation, such a problem appears as the failure of the ball supports and silent blocks of the front levers. These are the highlights faced by mechanics. And there is almost nothing to add. Pendant Renault Logan 2 phases - really, strong place! And, even if something breaks, the presence and price of spare parts level the unpleasant effect. True, there is one patient theme - uneven wear of the brake pads. But it depends more on the style of driving, the origin of spare parts and the one who, and what hands they installed them.

Electrician

The most common sore is a non-working claxon. Because of the bad soldering in the process of operation, contact moves. It is treated with a replacement of a steering wheel switch.

Household sores

For household sores Renault Logan 2 phases on the Internet there are no one dozen angry reviews. For example, about incomprehensible dimensional fog. Yes, it happens, they crack, but more often in winter, when they park a snowdrift on a "hot" car. And often mentioned problem with headlamping lamination is hardly possible without physical exposure.

Logan and other weaknesses. The most common - cracking of the paint coating of the rear wings and roof drains (this is a factory defect), and the formation of chips on the rear wings (appear during off-road driving).

Minuses are recruited a lot. But there is a pleasant moment. Most sores Renault Logan can be repaired in garage conditions. The car is simple, and, not counting some of the works that require special tools, is served elementary.

If we talk about love or dislike for Renault Logan 2 phases, then the story is twofold. It's all about people who buy it. They can be boldly divided into 2 contingents: the first - these are those who did not have enough money for something else, and they took the Logan from hopelessness, and the second one - who, on the contrary, as soon as possible approached the choice of the car and considered each ruble.

Yes, the car has many drawbacks. But they all overlap the very "indestructibility", which everyone speaks about. The only thing that you need to see the previous owner of the car before buying. Of course, if it was a taxi, then the car must be checked particularly carefully.

What from the spring of 2014 produced in AvtoVAZ to Togliatti?

In fact, the difference between the machines is not so great. She is definitely there, and we will specify about it every time it will be necessary, however, it is not so significant as in the case with two indeed different generations Models. In this case, Logan was "new" only from the point of view of design, several new features and marketing - after all, the change of the platform did not happen, and therefore, strictly speaking, did not have a change in generations. And if this statement can argue in the comments, bringing a dozen fair examples, when the car was named "new", having received only the restyling body, then that the driving habits and the lion's share of both the strong and weaknesses of Logan remained the same, Argued, alas, meaningless.

Hate # 5: Weak LCP

Logan's weak paint and varnish placing many owners, and indeed, chips in front of the hood appear on new sedans with disappointing speed. However, the technologies of coloring from producers of inexpensive brands differ not much, and if one part of the problem is written off on not too relevant (but forgive for sad pun, almost ubiquitous) "paint" savings, then another lies on russian roads: rare car It is possible to ride the Russian Federation without notorious chips. Someone the first of the automakers should decide and offer a complete set with the coloring "Raptor" - and this will exactly definitely be a trend ... In short, Renault's guilt in the "weak LCP" is a little more than that of other brands.

Renault Logan. "2004–09	Renault Logan "2013-N.V.

Love # 5: Design, which "became better"

The fact that at the beginning of the "zero" was just a modest appearance, to the beginning of the "tenths" turned into a pitch utility - Logan was simply stopped perceived in a different way than as a taxi car. In the new version, he became much more presentable (mainly in front of the front part, as soon as possible, many owners speak about it. In particular, those who have previously owned the "first" Logan. But with competitors for the segment of the current Logan, they are rarely compared, because a pretty catchy design learned to make almost all budget brands. If you allow the sports analogy, then the design of Logan broke a personal record, but before the worldwide records it is quite far.

Renault Logan "2004-09	Renault Logan "2014-N.V.

Hate # 3: Dear Body

This reason for the hatred of the whole fourth line in our ranking, because only those who fell misfortune to get into an accident and repaired at their own expense. In addition, prices for original body details They look impressive only compared to domestic brands. So, in Moscow you can find an unpainted front fender For your Logan for 3,500 - 4 000 rubles, but if you prefer the original, the price will jump up to 5,500 - 6,000 rubles. Approximately the same or even slightly cheaper is a wing for viburnum, but ... already painted. But prices for a similar item from Volkswagen Polo. - approximately at the level with Logan.

Love # 4 decent passability

Logan has a good ground clearance - 155 mm under load (that is, with full weight). Vaja viburnum, for example, a passport value is slightly larger, 160 mm. But there is an opinion that on the ragless line on Logan, it is even more relevant than on AvtoVAZ products, and if you mean the properties of the suspension, it is quite true. And if it were not for the bumper's "lip" rather low with a little later, Logan would be the king of primers and borders at all.

Hate # 4: Short lowest transmissions MCP

The five-speed box of the JH series, eternal, like Logan himself, has a number of advantages, due to which it, in fact, turned out to be such a long-liver. However, like any inexpensive product, it has compromises. One of them is short transmissions designed to provide a tolerable dynamics with engines with not the most outstanding characteristics, as well as, again, permeability, if you mean the ultra-screwing first. In practice, it often turns around that the driver on acceleration is forced to often use the "stirrer", and to touch and at all from the second transfer. On the fifth Logan (especially with the 8-valve engine), desperately roars the engine already 110 km / h. But someone seeks in such a character and advantage - the reception "included the third and drive both on the machine" in the city is used quite often. Here, of course, the merit is not only boxes, but also motors. However, a little later ...

Love # 3: good suspension

First of all, they are debunking myth: Logan suspension is not at all "indiscriminate." If desired and the desired degree of neglect of it and road conditions She is killed with a bang, and the list of victims usually happens the same as the other, normally "killed" suspensions of other brands: Stabilizer racks, ball supports (change along with levers), shock absorbers ... The suspension is definitely reliable, but absolutely not exactly eternal. A good reputation has created driving characteristics - the energy intensity is high, which creates a feeling of permissiveness on not too good coating. In restying Logan, the suspension became a little hard, which complains some of the owners, but positive qualities She did not lose their own, and rolls in turns became noticeably less.

Hate # 2. Weak 8-valve motor

With motors, the situation also changed. First, at the start of the "new generation" there was a refusal to the most "junior" engine - 1,4-liter 75-strong. The remaining 1.6-liter motors at least and satisfy the majority of users, but they could not please the special dynamics - the dynamic parameters were 11.9 and 10.7 seconds to one hundred, respectively, for the 8- and 16-valve in combination with MCP; The first motor developed 82 hp, the second - 102 hp And therefore for those who want more, to change the "senior" engine with the index K4M came 113-strong H4MK, familiar Renault Duster. And Kaptur, Nissan Sentra and Juke. At the same time, a 102-strong motor also remained in the lineup - it is combined with a 4-range ACP, which makes Logan rather voracious, although somewhat more comfortable car. But those who choose the 8-valve version, as before, remain dissatisfied with the dynamics of the machine. The desire of the manufacturer to lay this well-deserved unit in modern environmental norms It turns out with obvious minuses - or rather, noise instead of overclocking. Perhaps he is time to rest.

In the photo: under the hood Renault Logan "2013-N.V.

Love # 2: Large volume of trunk

Few people can surpass Logan on the volume of the trunk - in it 510 liters, and only Ravon R4 (he Chevrolet Cobalt.) It has more. There are also those who do not like the Logan's trunk - but not the volume, of course, and the poor, practically absent finish, as well as the fact that the loops of the cover with closure are eaten from the volume of the fair part, and it has to be taken into account when placing goods. In the cabin - about the same set of compromises: it is spacious, but not too rich and comfortable.

Hate # 1: Low Comfort Salon

People most of them understand that Logan is a relatively inexpensive car, and ready to put up with the gear of the instrument panel in lobby glass, hanging multimedias or its periodic reluctance to read flash drives, with errors of a regular navigator, with glitches of electricians and electronics, which are almost a familiar line "French" ... but with weak noise insulation, noisy regular rubber, still uncomfortable buttons of fiberglass, " Cheap "clapping sound when closing doors uncomfortable (although improved compared to the old) front seats, the same people are not ready to put up. But lay down.

Love # 1: Simplicity and reliability of design

Mireless because Logan is generally very good car. And mostly this success is based on the relative simplicity and outstanding reliability of the structure. Many are passing on this car a hundred or two hundred thousand kilometers, exploiting the car in the tail and in the mane (and the old one and the new Logan really love taxi drivers) and changing only consumables - oil, filters, pads and luminous heads ranked in this category Optics.

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By the way, there are those who scold new Logan for a weak headlight - sorry, it's not too clear, compared to what it is so bad. Or for bad visibility. Or for poor build quality. With the latter, everything is more or less clear - we often have the quality of assembly becomes "bad", it is worth only to find out that the assembly is conducted in AvtoVAZ ... And if you drop all these little things, which in certain proportions are full of each inexpensive car, I will remain that.

Logan - He's like a wife, with which he lived for 30 years. If it hated her, then once a long time ago, when she knew her badly. And you love not for some specific qualities, but simply because it is as it is - a nice, kind and breaks rarely.

Renault Logan is a car having enough obvious advantages, and is operated by millions of people around the world. But despite all the flawlessness, Logan has some weaknesses. These shortcomings and problem nodes arise mainly due to the use of low-cost materials when assembling a car. Maintenance problem places Consider in infographics.

• Gas pedal sticking at minus temperatures. In the frost, the braid braid pedal deforms and can cause a jaming of the cable. In winter, it is necessary to lubricate the cable with machine frost-resistant oil.
• Engine trimming and malfunctions. It occurs after 10-15 thousand km of run, if you systematically pour not high quality fuel.
• Fast wear seafood camshaft.
• Pombo can be out of order by 30-40 thousand traveled path.

• In the process of operation, wipers are rapidly wear out, a strong creak appears. Replacement required.
• Poor quality painting. Chips and scratches may appear fast enough.
• Front door limiters are not tightened and unscrewed.

• Hub bearings Rarely live longer than 30 thousand km run through a lack of lubricant in the front wheel bearings.
• On the run of 10-15 thousand, shock absorbers.

Transmission

• Crunch when turned on rear transmission - Conducted constructive feature (There is no reverse synchronizer).

• The upper fastenings of the front headlights are cracking even from bad roads.
• The front fog falls out from vibration.

Brake system

• Scripping and further refusal of the rear brake force dispenser. It begins with a run of 10 thousand km and requires lubricant every 10 thousand.
• Uneven wear of the front brake pads.

Inaccurate information - Rotzdil on Logan 40.000 km, there is a weak point of the crankshaft of the front, rear, left inner boot drive. Bearings when running 73.000, still good with the rest also disagree.

Outdated stereotypes, 90% of the information is not true

logan 2010 mileage 41000km. I own 5 years. Excellent machine. not a single breakdown of a single repair

In the phase1 there were never such problems, it began with phase2, when several millimeters have rooted power wiring.

I can not say that everything is so there, I agree only with the color and add steering tips.

Overview of the wiring buttons of the signal on the left submitter switch is a common breakage. And not only not Logan, but also on other Renault, where the same node is found.

Thanks for the idea of strong places, It is worth thinking.

Phase 1 2008, mileage 85k, changed all gums on 70k (bushings, racks, salmon blocks) as well brake discs. The silencer was welded, dug (even faster he dug out than there was a breakdown) Where is the statistics of strong places? Such as shock absorbers go more acres, there are no problems with the engine on 92 of all gas stations for 7 years, that the battery stands from the factory until now and in the frost even in minus 38 without warming up the first time

Logan16 16kle.2011. From repair, not counting the planned, the replacement of the front brake discs every 80 thousand. Mileage, 120 thousand. Replacing the steering and bearings of the front hubs, 140 thousand. Replacing the resonator, 160 thousand. Replacing ball supports and backs. 200 thousand Substitution of silent blocks and shock absorbers, wiring in the sensor sound signal Perepayayay every 40 thousand. I go around Moscow.

Thank you, Paul, for what shared with us, and with all the owners of Logan with their breakdowns. Such comments will certainly take on a notch not one Loganovod.

Renault Logan 2008, DVIG.1.4 - 8 CL. Mileage for 2014 - 121 thousand. I do not consider it a breakdown, but I cracked the fog in me after 3 months, on the scene.

I did not even change the guarantee, simply finished them. For 45 thousand cracked the windshield, and he cracked not from the hit of a stone into it, and cracked from under the left janitor-went crack. Well, the light bulbs burn out everywhere and always. Yes, the rustling of the pedal of gas began in about half a year, scared scared)))). And the first serious breakdown happened at 75 thousand, the timing broke. The total was repaired by the valve-repair -16 thousand and so norms. The suspension is excellent, the consumables on the oil and filters are very small, and I change everything yourself. And forgot. Almost all the backlight of the front panel buttons were overloaded to the drifting torque, only the backlight of the right window lifter remains, the rest is not lit, but the replacement of all these buttons is rather expensive. So it makes no sense to change. Good car. Everything is better than our bucket-VAZ.

Renault Logan 2011 Dvig. 1.6 8 CL. Mileage 81,000 km. The first breakdown of 31,000 km. The signal button has stopped working - replacing the steering switch under warranty. The second breakage of 60,000 km. The signal stopped working again. Nothing that did not change, removed, praised, and removed the factory disease with the soldering iron, paid inside the groove for the wire and I think it would no longer break. Third breakdown of 75,000 km. The thermostat began to open earlier, the car did not warm up to operating temperatureThe 3-4 divisions did not light up, replaced 15-20 minutes. The belts changed in 80,000 in the official, 60,000 did not see sense, looked better than new ones. Creaked on Ughab door locks, It is treated with the installation of silent locks or just a tape. The gas of the gas cable can be in severe frosts, it is felt that the pedal is pressed with small "checkers", but it does not hang back. Replaced the fog, took from Logan Phase1, the lamp H8, the PSX 24W's native lamp is not hunted, and they shine badly. How they can fall out do not understand. The crunch of the back has been trained with a sharp turn on, you need to pause 2-3 seconds after pressing the clutch and the cod will not. Brakes hodovka rack and other things have not changed and not repaired. Generally reliable car, He has so many weaknesses, at least in my case.

The information was selected based on the feedback and comments of the owners of Loganov on thematic forums, blogs and websites. "From the ceiling" no one invented anything, all the above the listed diseases were manifested with certain car owners (naturally not on one car at the same time).

Gas pedals sticking into minus temperatures - it is rarely 1 time in winter in -35. Engine troops on gasoline did not notice on the gas when cold Engine there is. Fast wear seal camshaft mileage 107 Tysh did not change. Pump can be out of order already at 30-40, I did not change anything. During operation, windshields are rapidly wear out - depends on climate and frequency of use. Poor quality painting. Chips and scratches may appear fast enough - it is not a disadvantage also depends on where the car drives. Front-door limiters are not tightened and 107 Mileage is unscrewed in place. The wheel bearings rarely live longer than 30 thousand km changed to 107 with brake drums On the handbrake traveled)))). On the run of 10-15 thousand, shock absorbers. also depends on the quality of our roads if the pit on the pit and a jama chases everything possible the front racks changed twice to 60 and 107 rear 1 time per 100 times crunch when the reverse transmission is turned on, - due to a constructive feature (there is no rear synchronizer) does not interfere. The upper fastenings of the front headlights are cracking even from bad roads. The front fog falls out from vibration. Where does such data come from? Scripping and further refusal of the rear brake force dispenser. It starts with a run of 10 thousand km and requires lubricant every 10 thousand uneven wear of the front brake pads. Also in incomprehensible from where such data is?

I would like the comments of the owners of Logan on malfunctions during operation

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The beautiful Renault Logan sedan was originally created for developing countries. That is, for those people who do not need an expensive car, but at the same time they require a technological machine with modern external species. In principle, Renault fulfilled the task. Logan is not a very expensive car, but it meets all the requirements of a modern car. However, when creating a car there were many shortcomings. Now, Renault Logan of the 1st generation, although performs all the requirements in its price segment, but has a number of unpleasant flaws.

Weaknesses Renault Logan 2004-2015 release

• Gas pedal;
• Crunch in the gearbox;
• Hub bearings;
• Brake Distributor;
• Wipers and LCPs;
• Fastening the front headlights.

When choosing any machine, you should immediately pay attention to the engine. The engine volume is within 1.4-1.6 liters. Power from 75 to 113 horse power. For such a price, the characteristics are at a high level, but there are obvious disadvantages.

Due to low temperatures, gas pedals are sticking. Tip: This can be avoided, lubricating the cable of pedal with frost-resistant machine oil. If the owner constantly pour down low-quality fuel, after 10,000 kilometers of run, malfunctions will begin. Car with mileage from 30-40,000 km. The likelihood of the failure of the pump is great.

Transmission

When the rear transmission is turned on, the crunch is heard, initially it will be hard to reveal exactly where the crusts. This is due to the lack of a synchronizer of the rear.

It is rather weak, the shock absorbers can fail under the run of 10-15,000 km. Hub bearings often do not live up to even 30 thousand km. Run.

Brake system

Front brake pads In each car, over time, it is started to wear out, but in Renault Logan it occurs unevenly. After 10,000 km of mileage, the rear brake force dispenser creaks. In the future, they can completely refuse. To maintain in the form, they need every 10 thousand km to lubricate to constantly.

Wipers will have to change frequently. They are quickly wearing, about the problem with them gives to understand a strong creak. Quality painting is not on summit. It will take a little time, you will immediately notice small scratches on the body.

From bad dear Start crack upper fasteners front headlights. This machine is suitable for the "ideal" city, so it should be careful with operation. From vibrations can leave the front fog.

Reviews of the owners of the car only confirm the above described weak sides Renault Logan 2004-2015. Consider these sores when buying.

The main disadvantages of Renault Logan of the 1st Generation

• At first, the owner will deliver the discomfort of the handle in the form of "recesses".
• Trunk. There is a small protrusion in the trunk, so when loading any cargo, it will scratch. Additional minus in the trunk - loops, plugs and wires. If you randomly hook them, they will tear off.
• Bardac. Manufacturers regretted him. Its catastrophically lacks for use. Torpeda has a rounded shape, it is impossible to put things on it.
• Oil filter. If you are shooting it, you're probability to burn your hand. You can avoid this by removing the collector, but you have to make efforts and spend a lot of time.
• Creak. Almost everything creaks in the cabin. As if the driver or passengers did not turn around, so that neither it opens, it all creaks.
• Hydraulic tank. Pretty poorly attached. In addition, it also keeps the radiator. He constantly gets out, which brings the owner of the car discomfort.
• Seal doors. If with door seals in winter time Do not remove snow, it begins to gradually penetrate the salon. This problem is not so terrible, but can deliver a lot of discomfort to the driver.
• Little mirrors in the car. A small minus, because there are special equipment with sufficiently large mirrors.
• Salon filter. His replacement delivers a lot of difficulties. They rarely change, quickly, but in this car it can leave the whole day. If you do not want to spend time, you can simply use the services of specialists in any car service.
• Light bulb in the trunk is missing. Lack of insignificant, but brings discomfort in some situations.
• Fuses get to get only by opening the driver's doors. Any car with time rust and deformed, so when opening this door, in rainy weather, water can get to the fuse. This will lead to serious consequences.
• Accelerates slowly. The reason is weak aerodynamics.
• The manufacturer did not think over the location of the jangers. The glass was wooed, the driver turns on the wipers, and only part of the "tears" wipes. It is very annoying and does not allow to focus on the road.

For most motorists, these shortcomings in modern world are considered unacceptable. Do not forget that the price of Renault Logan is low, and the sick places are not so fatal. In the review of any car it is worth considering all the pros and cons, and the first Loganov is much larger.

Pros and advantages of Renault Logan

• Doors are very high and wide. It is very convenient.
• Despite the fact that the car is not very expensive, the seats are modern and very comfortable. The landing is comfortable, the quality of the trim is excellent, and sit on such seats is simply very nice.
• The car is well prepared for the cold. The stove in the car greatly heats the salon, and uses the minimum of resources. The stove in the car is modern and is designed in such a way that heats the temperature inside the cabin evenly.
• Renault Logan has a very high landing. Thanks to high road clearance, this car It will take place in places where some crossovers are simply powerless.
• The suspension is ideal for domestic roads and driving conditions, because it is simply "indivisible" (but you should not perceive it literally). Even big mileage is not an indication that the suspension is oven wear.
• Engine proven time. They are very reliable and rarely require repair. In addition, the motor in Renault Logan is omnivore and can ride on A-92, A-95 or on A-98. In addition, consumption in mixed mode is about 8 liters per 100 kilometers.
• The gas tank box is closed using the key. Many cars of the same class are limited to the usual cork. This is very good dignityIf the owner leaves the car always on the street. It can be calm that hooligans do not have fuel from him.
• The car is very cheap. This applies not only to the price itself new car, and also services. The owner of the car will not need a lot of money even on overhaul. In addition, Renault Logan is very easy to maintain, so many details can be replaced or replaced by itself. In addition, he is not only inexpensive, but even reliable.
• The car engine is ideal for a harsh Russian winter. Even after a few years of work, it will be raised without any problems at a temperature of minus 35 degrees.
• If you drown out the car and are going to get out of it, but did not turn off the headlights, then the car will inform you about it with the help of a sound signal that the brain serves the car. The system is able to determine whether you turned off the headlights or not and give a signal in cases where this was not done.
• Renault engineers perfectly protected the engine crankcase and other nodes. Considering the state of domestic roads - this reinforced defense levels the risk of engine damage.

Conclusion.

The benefits of a car have a lot. However, the vulnerabilities of Renault Logan are quite significant. Not to the end, the thoughtful design of the body and the cabin, the shortcomings with the trunk, not worked with aerodynamics and much more. It all spoils the overall picture. Whatever it is, the benefits in the car are much more substantial. Thereby, new Renault. Logan is very popular in the domestic market and is actively bought in car dealerships. Many owners say that the car is originally and "unusual", but it is tolerant. Given the price segment, such small disadvantages can be simply written off. In addition, many cons in the car with ease fix themselves.

P.S.: We will be grateful if you describe below in the comments, the main disadvantages and frequent breakdowns Your car of this brand, detected during operation.

Weak spots and the main disadvantages of Renault Logan with mileage Was Last Modified: October 18, 2018 by Administrator.

Renault Logan will definitely enjoy the history of both Russian and world car industry. Will be included as a car that managed to show that it turns out, you can do though as easily as possible, but modern cars from nevable price. In the mid-2000s, Logan turned the idea of \u200b\u200bclass affiliation and introduced a new concept - a budget B +, while the place of place in the cabin is not inferior to representatives of the class above. In Russia, he became the first adequate alternative to the domestic automotive industry, alternatively, although poorly equipped, but it is reliable and not requiring attention.

Renault Logan II is available since 2012

After the release of the second generation, the car looked, but today is not as popular as before. There is a demand, but not in the top of sales. Just the competitors began to make cars on the same scheme, and Logan himself felt. Not anywhere and the main problems of the car. It is about them today and let's talk.

1. No trunk tongue

Someone can blame us in petty things, they say, to which nonsense came around, but real owners It annoys. In Logan, as the last of the Mogic, the trunk button is preserved with a lock inside. For a long time, no one does, but Renault engineers do not confuse. There are no problems in the button, it is even convenient. It came up, the castle, opened, it is not necessary to go to the salon to grop in the floor lever. The problem is only that there is nothing but the button on the trunk. That is, the key was opened, the button was pressed, the trunk was opened, and how to further raise it? Have to take for the metal edge that and uncomfortable, and makes blur.

Renault Logan 2 - Rear View

The most interesting thing is that on the dorestayling Logan of the first generation under the button there was a tongue for which it was convenient to cast a lid. Then he was removed, why? Successful savings leads to the inconvenience of owners.

2. Dirt side windows

The side mirrors have all the budget Renaults are the same, and it would be time to replace them. First, they are small and boast good overview Can not, but this is still okay. Secondly, they are very strangely constructed from the point of view of aerodynamics. These mirrors literally throw the side front glass of mud. If it rains or just raw weather, you can wipe these glasses at least every day. Worst of all falls on the highway, there in bad weather already after 50 kilometers, glass splashes to the state "nothing can be seen."

The manufacturer probably knows about the problem, but WHO and now there. In the people as soon as they do not struggle with this attack. They buy special add-ons on the mirrors, they make the screens that close the glass from road dirt, someone just scored and constantly carries with them a rag for wipes. But in any case, it turns out the collective farm and does not solve the problem.

3. Old automatic transmission

For those who want to buy a Logan with a "automatic", there are two news - one good one, the other is bad. Good - such a modification from the car is (in contrast, for example, from), bad - it is not necessary to buy it. Of course, the "automatic" Logan is noticeably better than "" Vesta, but still the pleasure. He has only four broadcasts, it is very slow, a non-radical and spoils the characteristics of the car.. Logan and so not a sports car, but with the "mechanics" accelerates even at least somehow, with automatic transmission during overclocking you can take a break. Fuel consumption is fixed in heaven. In the city it is easy to spend 12 liters per hundred, despite the fact that the owners of "mechanics" are stacked in 9. The unit is terribly ineffective.

There are questions and reliability. Despite the constant refinement, this box still can not boast a large resource. And even regular oil replacement and neat ride do not help significantly extend life. One good, primitive design makes repairs relatively inexpensive (by the standards of others), but it's still a weak consolation for those who have encountered problems on the first hundred thousand kilometers.

FROM automatic boxes Logan is not lucky at all. At one time I tried to put a one-piece "robot", but it turned out the same garbage as in AvtoVAZ, the idea, thank God, covered. Now Nissanovsky began to put on maximum versions. This is already an aggregate of another level, which, by comfort and smoothness, is on two heads above the Loganovsky automatic transmission. One misfortune, with a variator car costs more than 850 thousand rubles, which for Logan seems very expensive.

Renault Logan Stepway with Variator JF015E

4. Strange ergonomic solutions

The location of the buttons and control levers in the Logan is well characterized by the phrase "Monsieur knows a lot about perversions." Indeed, a stranger will fall into a driver's seat and just can not guess how and what to do. Front windows on the door riding, it is logical, but who thinks the rear window buttons to search on the torpedo? Want to enable cruise control? One button on the torpedo and two more on the steering wheel, in one place it is impossible. Music management is driving somewhere. It is also good that in the second generation, the mirrors and the signal were adjusted to normal, and then their location was very creative.

In fairness it must be said that these oddities scare only newcomers, experienced car owners get used to this location. Muscular memory takes its own, and in real exploitation problems are not so much: strange, but okay. And yet one thing is terribly infuriated even people who have dressed with Logan. Speech about buttons for the heating of seats. Not only in Logan, all budget Renaults so that further enhances the degree of negative. Not only are they no indication, in a hard-to-reach place, which leads a narrow slot between the seat and the side pocket door, so also to the button passenger chair not get from the driver's seat. If suddenly the passenger froze and wants to turn on the heating, or, on the contrary, overheated and wants to turn off ("fries" the seat, it is necessary to say, decently), but does not know how, a real circus begins with a description of where the button is located. The driver himself has turned on or disabled, cannot be speech, it is necessary either to stretch through the entire salon, or stop and bypass the car on the other side.

5. Inspected ESP

The second generation brought the owners a new feature - they became available to such a luxury as an ESP. Not in the basic version, but only in the suite, and even then for surcharge. But it is this fact that the car saved, because in fact, not buyers must pay extra for ESP, and they must pay them for agreeing to buy a car with this system. There is no complaints to the most stabilization system, although it is simple, but it works as it should, the problem is different. Together with an anti-slip system, which does not allow the wheels to stop on the spot. This fact turns the car into a wheelbarr to the car off-road. It is only worth falling out snowball or a little mud appears as Logan is not going anywhere. It's not going to move on the freshest or risky soil in a slide.

On the forum of fans of the brand a bunch of real examples - everyone who can, even machines without clearance and with a tape instead of rubber, and Logan stuck. Where you need to add a bracket and slip with slipping, the car simply cuts the thrust and helplessly stand. Such a principle eSP work On many models, but they have an ESP shutdown button for such situations. Turned off and drove, the Logan does not have this button (except for the version with the variator). As a result, in fact, harm from ESP is more than good. And buyers even pay extra for it! Someone tries to pull the fuse, someone himself collects the relay and the button, but why, it's better to just bypass the ESP on the Logan side, in any case, while the representation does not fall and do this simple refinement. On the expensive version with the variator, they put.

conclusions

The second Logan in its repertoire, the basic values \u200b\u200bof the car are present, but the smallest may be terribly annoying. Including the fact that for such a long time famous problems Nobody corrected. The car itself did not become worse for the release, but the situation has changed: the competitors were broken, and the Logan himself does not have a young one, besides, it is constantly becoming more expensive from new options. So you should not be surprised that the demand for him is not so high as before. It's sometime reposit Renault. He was the only one in her style, today he has to rigidly pushed with elbows among the like on ideology, but a little more fresh cars.